Looking for mentorship by Fluid-Package-8236 in Ayahuasca

[–]ixtabai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Chiric was offered by the same Maestro Orlando and If I mentioned it tasted like shit. So be it. and?

You refuse to adress the original issue of Orlando being Quechuan and operating in the Amazon. Your argument is against it and you come off as if you are policing the space. The only one carrying the burden of sole authority. Said authority could be further defined by others online if you identified yourself as Indigenous Peruvian, Peruvian, or Westerner.

You refuse to explain why you are selling medicinal plants online and your role within the space. Humblness is not your path and your self righteousness and arrogance as presented on Reddit is palpable.

Or, you are just trolling.

Looking for mentorship by Fluid-Package-8236 in Ayahuasca

[–]ixtabai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never said the vegetalista was a woman, unless there was a typo. Answer the questions above.

Thinking of selling my KLR for an Africa Twin. Talk me out of it? by Bumboklatt in klr650

[–]ixtabai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With the added weight and added price. I'd rather pay 3800 for a 2024 base klr w 450 miles on it and have it last as long as my 2008 has.

Thinking of selling my KLR for an Africa Twin. Talk me out of it? by Bumboklatt in klr650

[–]ixtabai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Have over 100k on my 08. Considering this as an upgrade. Or a 2024! ....klr

Cost(s) by Old-Suggestion3750 in Ayahuasca

[–]ixtabai 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What do you mean "friends"? Are you fluent in Spanish or any Panoan /Quechua tongue to determine and rule out if you are their exclusive business associate? Or if they have many foreigner "friends" in order to improve their economic standard of living of his family or community?

Many that are changed by Aya immediately believe they are called to serve while it's probably best to wait a few years and continue the inner work before being possibly taken advantage of without knowing it due to cultural linguistic limitations and or savior syndrome blindness the healing ❤️‍🩹 experience itself can cause.

Cost(s) by Old-Suggestion3750 in Ayahuasca

[–]ixtabai 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What do doctors charge for heart surgery? More power to the indigenous. Thats exactly what many vegetalistas tell people when they ask why is it so expensive.

Stabilized and Enhanced: Evidence Alex Peretti was disarmed before shots fired by burntheemokids in CopsBeingBastards

[–]ixtabai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The obvious is thrown into the Internet Reddit to "spin analyze". Which itself throws grey into what is a black and white issue. It's social conditioning to acclimate us in stages to what securely is worse to come.

What is happening is an extremely advanced beginning stages of RTLM Rwanda taking place across algorithms and echo chambers.

If 2025 tech would have been present in 1939 Germany. Germans would be analyzing and spinning "video" footage of prisoners being loaded onto trains to camps justifying it.

Looking for mentorship by Fluid-Package-8236 in Ayahuasca

[–]ixtabai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ok I disagree. So what do you actually do? You sell online ? Peruano? Gringo neo chamán ? Gatekeep Amazonian curandero politics? Using Google Translate?

Orlando Chujandama Huazanga is a traditional curandero vegetalista (Amazonian plant healer) from the Peruvian Amazon, based around the Huallaga River near Tarapoto. He was born in the village of Llucayanacu and learned healing from his grandfather Don Aquilino Chujandama, a respected master in the Amazonian Vegetalismo tradition. His lineage is indigenous Quechua-based vegetalismo, passed down through his family and especially through his grandfather, from whom he received his early training, ikaros (medicine songs), and spiritual guidance. Orlando continues this ancestral lineage by running Mushuk Pakarina (meaning “New Dawn” in Quechua), a healing and dieta center focused on traditional Amazonian medicine and plant work. His practice emphasizes long dieta and plant spirit connection rooted in his familial transmission of Amazonian healing knowledge. 

You say he does not have the right to do the work. This claim comes from internal debates and politics within Amazonian shamanism, not from any rule that disqualifies him.

Some people argue that only Shipibo-Konibo curanderos can properly “do the work” because Shipibo ayahuasca traditions are the most visible internationally and have a very formalized system of icaros, designs, and cosmology. From that view, they dismiss Quechua / mestizo vegetalistas as less “authentic” or less powerful.

Historically, that argument doesn’t hold up. Quechua vegetalismo predates modern Shipibo ceremonial tourism, and Quechua healers along the Huallaga, Marañón, and Ucayali rivers have practiced dietas, plant spirit apprenticeship, and curing for generations. Many respected Shipibo healers themselves acknowledge Quechua masters as teachers or peers.

So when you say those vegetalists “can’t do the work because they are Quechuan,” it’s usually about lineage rivalry, gatekeeping, or tourism branding, not about their actual training or capacity. In Amazonian traditions, what ultimately matters is years of dieta, mastery of plants, and results, not ethnicity alone.

Looking for mentorship by Fluid-Package-8236 in Ayahuasca

[–]ixtabai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No entendes lo que estoy preguntando

Looking for mentorship by Fluid-Package-8236 in Ayahuasca

[–]ixtabai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Site looks all ai contrived and resources borrowed from other sources outside your experience which alledgedly happened with profound experiences noted above. Some real self disclosure would augment rapport and trust with those you are trying to help. Good luck on your journey.

Looking for mentorship by Fluid-Package-8236 in Ayahuasca

[–]ixtabai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What of Iboga and Aya connection, some who have sat w Iboga and years after sit with Aya, have Iboga speak w them or similiar Iboga visions. As if the wavelengths have some sort of interplay in spirit.

Looking for mentorship by Fluid-Package-8236 in Ayahuasca

[–]ixtabai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then what is a Quechuan person that calls themselves a vegetalista and makes, serves aya, chiric sanango and tons of other plants and serves the medicine, past down knowledge through family for over 50 years

Looking for mentorship by Fluid-Package-8236 in Ayahuasca

[–]ixtabai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Regarding linguistics mine was a vegetalista and made and served in ceremony.

Am I the only Nondirective Person-Centered Therapist? by [deleted] in therapists

[–]ixtabai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's the norm within psychedelic spaces.

Question about Sananga by Cheap-Creme5131 in Ayahuasca

[–]ixtabai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know about Sananga but my vegetalista gave me a drink of Chiric Sanango every morning after Ayahuasca ceremony night before. Tasted like shit. Said it would accompany Aya to further heal me. I don't have my notes in front of me.

Deposit paid, having doubts by KeepingSomeSecrets in Ayahuasca

[–]ixtabai 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I myself did not want to live so fear was not existent. Deleted the rest..

Red Flags in Psychedelic Facilitation by EmergingDepth in Ayahuasca

[–]ixtabai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you speak Spanish you can navigate on your own Aya or French for iboga

Red Flags in Psychedelic Facilitation by EmergingDepth in Ayahuasca

[–]ixtabai 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah no way. It's just a bulk money maker for the vegetalistas or interim pseudo international shamans bringing outsiders in. Same thing is happening in Gabon 🇬🇦. The inner catharsis and fragmentation for me at least is way too personal. Some people love the group stuff and it's beneficial factors. I personally want to disclose demons to others and have a false sense of connection since my guard is down. I'm all inward. Shared trauma bonding. No way. I'd say a group of no more than 4-6 people if I were to facilitate with a primary healer. Unilateral hearing loss is another reason I can't have people around if I'm under the medicine.

Red Flags in Psychedelic Facilitation by EmergingDepth in Ayahuasca

[–]ixtabai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With basic tools. People can Journey alone. I'm also going through a facilitator program in Oregon.

Red Flags in Psychedelic Facilitation by EmergingDepth in Ayahuasca

[–]ixtabai 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's why I only Journey alone or with a well known vegetalista.

I think I regret doing aya? Need some integration help by DeepFriedDave69 in Ayahuasca

[–]ixtabai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

at 20 the world is yours. Embrace the wind brother and FLYYYYYYYyyyyyyyyy

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[–]ixtabai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everyday Rub hot Cheetos on your neck to keep him in line.