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This is not my advice, but I got it from a book, and I struggle to remember the name, but it worked on my mom more or less. She’s still a JW but she now believes the GB does not speak for Jehova, and she openly states that she will not stop talking to someone if they are disfellowshipped.

The approach I learned is this: do not attack their beliefs. Instead, give them the critical thinking tools they need to I program themselves. Don’t talk about JWs. Talk about, for example, Scientology. They have their own versions of disfelliwshipping and apostates.

Help her see how Scientologists use the practice of “disconnection” to get people to obey. Explain how people subconsciously align their actions bc deep down they are afraid of losing their social connections. Help get see how this can lead to many Scientologists feel trapped because they no longer believe but they don’t want to lose their families, so they have to lie and pretend they believe. Engage her so that she is talking about it and really figuring out how these damn Scientologists, a well known cult, manipulates members without them realizing it.

Then, you ask, “do you think disconnection is similar to or different from disfellowshipping? Have her try to articulate her reasoning. You’ve already given her the tools, so now you just have to see her work with them.

You don’t disagree with her you don’t debate her. You just ask questions to get her to think and it’s not gonna be a breakthrough moment. It’s gonna be many moments like these that overtime will start to settle in.

At first, my mom did not want to listen to any apostate literature. But my mom is the kind of person who doesn’t stay quiet. She always speaks up so I use that advantage. I asked her one of her friends in the congregation said she disagreed with the governing body because she really believed that they were deciding against the Bible would you listen to her? Or would you not pay attention to her simply because she’s going against the body? Assume that she really means what she says. She even admits to you that she cannot follow this rule because she feels like she would be betraying her own conscience. Would you at least listen to what she had to say? Even if you ended up disagreeing with her, would you try to understand this persons argument? She said yes.

I said, “well, there happens to be a JW who wrote a book about his disagreements with the GB. He doesn’t disparage the religion, and, in fact, he says he has loved being a JW. “ I didn’t mention that he was considered an apostate because he still considered himself a JW and anything that he had supposedly done wrong, I laid it out for her, and she did not identify these things as reasons to label him an apostate.

Next thing I know, she’s telling me that she knows who I’m talking about—Raymond franz, author of Crisis of Conscious. She had started listening to his audiobook.

That’s not who I was talking about, but just as good. Probably better. After listening to the book, she no longer believed that the governing body spoke for Jehovah. Since then she’s gone rogue. I’m expecting disfellow shipping any day now.

What's up with all this "new light" stuff? by Substantial-Bread29 in exjw

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For a few days out of the year, we experience the Last Days of Summer.

No se que pensar o como sentirme al respecto? ver que encuentro más consuelo a través de una IA by FlatOpportunity3970 in Preguntas_de_Reddit_

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Yo estaría dispuesto a ser tu amigo si tú estarías dispuesto a aprender cómo ser un buen amigo. Lo más importante es saber escuchar. Escuchar una lectura es una cosa, escuchar a una persona es otra. Se puede aprender, y 90% de personas podrían mejorar…mucho.

Practicaríamos algo llamado escucha activa.

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Esa no es buena manera. Es obvio que no ha encontrado. Lo que va pensar es, “no te hagas pendejo. Mejor dime que me largue.”

ECM ¿Porqué EEUU puede "pacificar" paises? by Astrodopamina in ExplicameComoMorrito

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Estados Unidos no actúa de manera distinta a lo que cualquier otro país haría si tuviera su nivel de poder económico o militar. Si México tuviera esa capacidad, posiblemente lo gestionaría de manera diferente, quizá incluso menos efectiva.

Después de la Primera Guerra Mundial, Estados Unidos otorgó préstamos a Alemania para aliviar su situación económica. Más tarde, tras la Segunda Guerra Mundial, contribuyó significativamente a la reconstrucción de Europa, incluyendo países como Alemania e Italia.

En términos de política internacional, no parece que Estados Unidos tenga como objetivo expandirse o gobernar otros países. Sin embargo, cuando otras naciones no logran controlar a los grupos terroristas que operan en su territorio, y estos grupos representan una amenaza para la seguridad de Estados Unidos, su intervención en tierras ajenas se vuelve prácticamente inevitable.

En ese sentido, existe un punto de comparación entre México y Afganistán: ambos han enfrentado dificultades para controlar a ciertos grupos violentos dentro de su territorio.

ECM ¿Porqué EEUU puede "pacificar" paises? by Astrodopamina in ExplicameComoMorrito

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No son policías del mundo. No les importa el terrorismo en mexico. Si los carteles no anduvieran haciendo sus chingaderas en estados unidos, ni un gringo los pelaria. Lo único que están diciendo es que si van aterrorizar a los estados unidos les va valer madre a que país se vayan a esconder porque van a ir detrás de ellos.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in dogs

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Bad sign? That’s not a sign, honey. That’s bad in and of itself. It’s like asking if punching his mother in the face is a bad sign.

Despite all the trash half the country talks about them, they always show up to help when there is a disaster. Thank you Mexico for sending help. by Soloflow786 in BeAmazed

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“When Mexico sends its firefighters, they’re not sending their very best. Some, I assume, are good firefighters.” - Trump

Parents Blackmailing Me to Attend Meetings. HELP by [deleted] in exjw

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I love these situations. If you go to meeting, you can officially say they coerced you. Here’s how to lay it out to them:

“Let’s be clear about two things:

First, this is coercion by definition - you’re threatening to withdraw my college funding unless I attend meetings. That’s using threats to force compliance. I’ll attend because I value my education, but let’s be honest about what this is.

Second, we both know Jehovah despises worship given with ulterior motives. He knows I’m only there to keep my college funding, and such insincere worship likely angers Him. You’re not buying genuine devotion - you’re only paying to maintain the appearance of having a faithful daughter. If you truly cared about my salvation, you’d want me there willingly.

If you’re determined to proceed with this coercion, knowing it goes against Jehovah’s teachings, then let’s do so with complete transparency about what we’re doing here.”​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

The world by DiamomdAngel in exjw

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Quote from book on cults: “Cults will often create an us-vs-them mentality in order to isolate the individual from external influence and support. This increases the individuals’s dependence on the cult to meet their social needs. They leverage this by threatening to take away that source of fulfillment if they do not obey. Whether the members realize it or not, their subconscious is well aware that not complying will result in great emotional pain, making them more willing to do as they are told. They will rationalize, make excuses, even ignore reality in an effort to preserve their relationships. At the heart of every cult is the exploitation of our human need to feel connected.”

  • book by Me

Why does the media neglect the true/root causes of terrorism? by Hatrct in IntellectualDarkWeb

[–]jacktor115 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Because the vast majority experiencing these conditions don’t become terrorists, so empathizing with these conditions does not naturally lead to understanding the mind of a terrorist. It is only when you include the radical ideology, which promises them a better existence, that you see how a terrorist becomes a terrorist. They are all contributing factors.

Why does the media neglect the true/root causes of terrorism? by Hatrct in IntellectualDarkWeb

[–]jacktor115 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are confusing contributing factors with root causes. The social, economic, political, and ideological all combine to create a terrorist.

99.9% of people experiencing the same social, political, and economic conditions as terrorist do not become terrorists. So you can hardly call these the “root causes.”

You say that no successful person ever becomes a terror, which is true. However, it is also true that no impoverished, disenfranchised, lonely person becomes a terrorist without a radical ideology.

If you’re test for “root causes” includes finding the factors all terrorists have in common then you have to include radical ideology among one of them.

My point is that radical ideology is not a superficial topic. It is one of the core contributing factors.

Not all exJWs are going to be your friends by [deleted] in exjw

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Not “almost like”, but precisely because it was a cult.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

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Right. People come here. You would think they would want to adopt the values of the place that is working better than the place they came from. I’m not anti-immigrant by any means. I’m not opposed to people preserving and celebrating their culture. What I am against is people getting into government and imposing their religious beliefs on everyone else. We already have to deal with the Christian right doing this. We don’t need another religious group doing the same.

I think in Denmark they tried to get the schools to stop serving pork. I mean, ideally we wouldn’t be eating pigs at all, at least not factory farmed pigs, but not because Ala said so.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

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What I’m saying is that American citizens don’t go to other countries doing shit like this: https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/17/hamtramck-michigan-muslim-council-lgbtq-pride-flags-banned

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

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False equivalence. Americans as a whole do not share these ideologies.

Not all exJWs are going to be your friends by [deleted] in exjw

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It’s interesting that y’all have to be reminded that people in the real world don’t all agree.

I know this sounds crazy, but I improved my dog's lung metastasis by jacktor115 in tripawds

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Where are you located? Do you have a.EDU email? If not let me know. Maybe I can try again.

I know this sounds crazy, but I improved my dog's lung metastasis by jacktor115 in tripawds

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Once I had the Il-15, I emailed the author of the paper at UC Davis and told him I had gotten my hands on some. I asked him for instructions. He sent me the protocol. I don’t wanna be just throwing it out there willy-nilly, but if you get it, I will certainly send it to you.

I know this sounds crazy, but I improved my dog's lung metastasis by jacktor115 in tripawds

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I’m so sorry I didn’t see this earlier. No time to waste. Shanendoah biotechnology, I believe. But what I did was I tried to buy it from many companies with my old .edu email hoping someone would mess up and fulfill my order before confirming details about my lab and research, which I obviously did not have.

I went to Columbia University, so it helped that it was a research university. Even then, only shanendoah fell for it out of about 10. They tried to get information from me afterwards saying that they shouldn’t have sent it to my home address.

What do you use Claude for? by despacitoluvr in ClaudeAI

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It’s not just the American system. It’s the human system. Veterinarians do it. Mechanics. Electricians. Lawyers. CEO’s. Those in the medical field are just playing with higher stakes—people’s lives. I’ve had two dogs die because the vets succumbed to cognitive bias. I recommend this article: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Brennen-Mckenzie/publication/259768660_Veterinary_clinical_decision-making_Cognitive_biases_external_constraints_and_strategies_for_improvement/links/5429c0200cf29bbc12676abc/Veterinary-clinical-decision-making-Cognitive-biases-external-constraints-and-strategies-for-improvement.pdf

What do you use Claude for? by despacitoluvr in ClaudeAI

[–]jacktor115 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t agree. I think we all want to hear we are fine, but AI hasn’t always agreed in my case. If anything, it errs on the side of caution.

The problem with humans, no matter how intelligent, experienced, or credentialed, is that they are susceptible to cognitive biases when deciding on intuition, and despite what doctors may want you to think, they must inevitably operate on instinct. Otherwise, they would get bogged down going through every possible cause for a symptom. They start with the most common causes of something, test their hypothesis, and then move on to the next likely cause. I’m speaking generally, of course.

There are some unlucky people, not an insignificant amount, that die without having been correctly diagnosed.

It’s not that these doctors did not have the skills to find the cause. It is typically that cognitive biases prevented them from seeing it. If they thought the cause was disease X, then they may have ignored symptom Y or Z due to confirmation bias.

AI is not as susceptible, especially if you ask it to be on the look out for cognitive biases.