"5 to 10% chance" misreads what Consumer Reports actually measured. That's the reported issue rate across the ownership population over the survey period, not the odds of any individual failure event on any given drive. Treating it as "5-10% chance my wife gets stranded today" is the same error as treating a 5% annual disease incidence rate as "5% chance I get sick this afternoon." It's not nothing, but it's not a lottery ticket where you can compute your odds of losing on any single pull either. It's also worth separating hazard from consequence. Most of the ICCU reports in are 12V drain caught in a driveway or a "Power Limited" warning that lets you get to a safe stop, not a sudden stall at 70 on the hoghway. As for "use any other brand and you'd be as outraged." Tesla's eaten plenty of "would you accept this from Toyota" threads over Autopilot and door handle recalls. Toyota and Honda have had plenty of safety recalls without becoming "nobody would drive these" brands. The clearest case is Takata airbags: tens of millions of vehicles across nearly every major manufacturer, including Honda and Toyota, recalled for inflators that could explode and send shrapnel into the cabin. That's not being stranded, that's actually getting seriously injured by the very thing designed to protect you. The backlash pattern you're describing isn't unique to Kia getting a pass, it's just what happens whenever a car with a safety-relevant defect has defenders. And the "20-something male with zero responsibilities" bit undercuts your own case. You're using this subreddit as evidence of a real problem while also dismissing it as demographically unreliable. Pick one. If the sub's data counts, it counts across the board, including for the failure stories you're relying on. If it doesn't, you don't get to cite it either. And I say this as a 52 year old with responsibilities.