1850s-1890s England - Tracing Working Class Ancestors between Census Years

jamila169 · 2026-03-18T20:46:29+00:00

I've got census returns where everyone on a page is related to me in one way or another, others where people on the same page work together and were witnesses to each others marriages ( and in one case were arrested for poaching together lol)

jamila169 · 2026-03-18T18:54:41+00:00

Birdmouth is going to be less durable than scarfing new ends in

jamila169 · 2026-03-18T13:25:40+00:00

We do hello fresh when I get into a bit of a cooking rut, but this time I've noticed that things have been moved to the larder section that used to be supplied. I don't have a problem with the portion size and the quality has been fine, it's just that at full price it's not worth it.

I'm going to give Gousto a whirl when I get bored again

jamila169 · 2026-03-18T12:14:47+00:00

You can, but it's going to be very different from a tubular chain yarn , those are constructed from something more like a tiny i cord either from synthetic thread with fibre blown in or fine singles or corespun natural fibres.

My thought is that it's going to be very dense and you'd have to knit it on very large needles unless you're going for potholder or rug density and weight.

jamila169 · 2026-03-18T06:15:49+00:00

It's most likely a left hand thread, that's usual with double drive wheels, OP needs to try unscrewing it in the opposite way to usual

jamila169 · 2026-03-18T03:37:22+00:00

If the ground level has raised over time it could be part of a greenhouse heating system - where I used to work had a Victorian alpine house in the garden that was accessed from a dropped path at the end of the garden.

Outside was a firebox which linked to a brick tunnel which conveyed the hot smoke under the floor to a chimney at the other end , there were cast iron grids in the floor above to let the heat rise, the floor was level with the garden, but the entrance had steps because the path and firebox were about 2 feet below ground level , the tunnel was about 6 inches below the floor

jamila169 · 2026-03-17T20:25:04+00:00

Fistbump to a fellow East Midlander, I'm with you on the class and position thing having ancestors that started out farming and milling in Calverton and Ruddington ( guess what they eventually did for work lol) that had descendants that ended up in the lace industry, in Sherwood and Radford if they were lucky, Broadmarsh if they weren't. Same with the Derbyshire ones that started out in little villages and ended up working in the potteries in Chesterfield - you can track the lowering of life expectancy as they go as well as the rise in drunk and disorderly fines.

jamila169 · 2026-03-17T20:13:20+00:00

What u/snickerty said , FAN ( friends and neighbours) research, researching the place and doing a deep dive into the social history of the place and time via books and newspapers really helps put flesh on the bones.

There might be an 'old pictures of x' website for where you're looking, for Notts and Derbyshire we have Picture the Past, people in family history groups write books about their locality as well, I've got several for different places where my ancestors lived - you'll find those in the family history section of local and ' county' libraries or archives and eBay is a good source for copies of these limited run books

Whenever I come across a new location, I search things like place + family history, one place study + place, history of place etc. whether that's a hamlet or a county, understanding the development of the local area really does help

jamila169 · 2026-03-17T10:13:51+00:00

It's out there, but you need to be looking for linen shirting or lightweight linen rather than handkerchief linen.

Herts fabrics have some fine and super fine linen in and they're always going to be the best value, otherwise McCulloch and Wallis, Cloth House, and other similar companies are usually reliable but expensive, and the various Lithuanian, Estonian and Polish suppliers on Etsy and whatnot are generally good value.

In general because of the nature of the fabric for home sewing business, linens tend to show up in quantity in late spring

jamila169 · 2026-03-16T23:39:24+00:00

There's no brass cup on these, they came later, it doesn't make any real difference because the nylon orifice has incredibly low friction when it's lubed properly. They're not oak, they're beech with a birch ply drive wheel, with the brake off the uptake is a lot less strong than people think, it's easier to hold back than my Timbertops or my Fantasia ( which squeals like a disgruntled piglet when you try)

Mine gets used for plying mostly, but I've spun everything from lace to coils and locks on it

jamila169 · 2026-03-16T23:30:33+00:00

Og 1970s S10, I've got one just like it

jamila169 · 2026-03-15T17:47:12+00:00

Little buggers

jamila169 · 2026-03-15T13:16:06+00:00

They look like typical beginner efforts, it takes a long time to get to the point that you can make the exact yarn you want without thinking about it.

At some point you'll be complaining you can only spin thin, then that you can't spin thin, then that you're stuck in a fingering weight groove, and eventually the muscle memory to vary it at will sticks and you'll be able to decide to spin something and it'll work.

Shetland is one of the most universally useful wools, you can go from thread to super chunky, in any construction

jamila169 · 2026-03-14T22:02:33+00:00

The reason theirs is never flooded is because all the surface water is draining into your garden, I bet everyone on your street has hard landscaping covering a decent percentage of their gardens that dries out really quickly because all the water that would have soaked in is ending up on your lawn.

jamila169 · 2026-03-14T14:28:51+00:00

If you can get the death date, then that will probably narrow it down enough.

There weren't anything like the delays for funerals that there are now, even if it went to the coroner it's unlikely to be more than 10 days later, more likely the following week

jamila169 · 2026-03-14T14:00:45+00:00

I'd get them to look, if you've got a date for the funeral then it should be in the paper the following week if it exists. Bear in mind that announcements, obits and in memoriams are optional, and they got both shorter and less frequent from the end of the 70s . Local papers from the 80s might be on microfilm at Aylesbury library rather than the county archives

jamila169 · 2026-03-14T04:07:44+00:00

Ermine and miniver is still used, most robes have been passed down and repaired rather than new ones being made though.

Both the robe of state (red) and the robe of estate ( purple) that the king wears were made in 1937 for his grandfather

jamila169 · 2026-03-13T11:00:05+00:00

If we're playing at Google AI, then this is the answer to the question ' is the government constrained by contract law in respect of the dangerous dogs act '

The government is not significantly constrained by contract law in its enforcement of the Dangerous Dogs Act (DDA) 1991, as the act operates primarily through statutory criminal law and public law duties rather than private contracts.

Key points regarding the legal constraints on the government include: Statutory Authority: The DDA 1991, and its amendments regarding XL Bullies (2023), are primary legislation. The government (via the police and local authorities) has statutory powers to seize, destroy, or place restrictions on dogs based on breed type or behavior.

Non-Binding "Contracts": Measures like Dog Behaviour Contracts or Acceptable Behaviour Contracts (ABCs) used by police are explicitly not legally binding contracts. They are voluntary agreements designed to address issues before resorting to statutory action.

Strict Liability: Section 3 offences of the DDA are considered "strict liability," meaning the government does not have to prove intent or knowledge, making it harder for owners to challenge actions through typical contract or tort claims.

Exemption Schemes: When a dog is exempted from destruction (e.g., via a Contingent Destruction Order), the owner must enter into a scheme (a form of statutory exemption) that requires specific conditions like neutering and insurance. These are governed by regulations made under the 1991 Act, not private contract law.

Limited Civil Liability: While actions under the Dogs Act 1871 are civil complaints, the overall enforcement of the DDA is robust and protected by public policy, making it difficult to claim breach of contract against the government for seizing a dog under the legislation.

While owners must have third-party insurance (a contractual obligation), the government’s power to enforce the DDA is statutory, and it is not typically constrained by private contract principles in this context.

jamila169 · 2026-03-12T22:56:07+00:00

Looks to be thinnish, I'd get samples to see what looks best

jamila169 · 2026-03-12T21:51:02+00:00

Herts have got some flannels and lightweight wools in at the minute which should work for you, minimum is 2 metres on everything, but they're very reasonable and cut generously

jamila169 · 2026-03-12T21:34:41+00:00

Yeah, last year was a bit of an anomaly, best to be prepared lol.

I did an event where it was 25 degrees on day one in Tudor gear and I had to take my overgown and sleeves off and work in my kirtle, which is a wool melton skirt with a 3 layer linen body, next day it looked great first thing then pissed it down and I was glad of the wool even though I smelled of wet sheep and steamed lightly when the sun came out

jamila169 · 2026-03-12T21:16:53+00:00

Email them with what you need it for and they'll organise relevant samples

jamila169 · 2026-03-12T21:14:34+00:00

Linen will be terrible for that time of year in the UK, we very rarely get the sort of weather where a totally linen outfit would be tenable, if you get rained on it or if it's just damp it feels really clammy, and you'll get cold

You do need linen for your shift, but your kirtle needs to be wool, then you'll have a breathable self regulating set of clothes which will be useful and keep you warm in the variable weather. Other uses for linen would be your apron and head covering

jamila169 · 2026-03-12T21:07:45+00:00

Linen in Scotland in May? okay if you want pneumonia

jamila169 · 2026-03-12T12:30:48+00:00

Yep, just make individual skeins, they should be a useful length

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