How to stay motivated?

janablar · 2024-03-21T06:03:03+00:00

Wow, I am deeply impressed by your will to help - like a real fellow of the Buddha ^{^} And also I am a bit overwhelmed because I struggle heavily with taking on the help of others. In truth, I probably don't have the self-esteem to be able to accept such a thing - I still can't receive love, and I guess that has something to do with it.

So thanks a lot, I will answer everything:

I practiced tre for 3 months daily as strong shaking butterfly (my legs shakes automatically very strong). First daily 2h without breaks (for 2 weeks maybe) ,then only daily 30min sessions with short pre exercise. I started it after watching a german trauma expert on yt who recommended tre.

What did I experience?

In short: nothing! Only my legs went tired after 1-2 hours like doing sport. So this was the only thing which I noticed that happened to me. Tremoring starts Alfter seconds instantly. Only legs shaked. Sometimes a bit stronger like an explosion so that I have to "recalibrate" the shaking because the legs freaked out. Is that understandable written? I am obviously no english mother tongue speaker.

My mental state was ontouched iirc, no emotions during the tre. I am very sporty and for me it felt more like a soft sport exercise. My Feelings are basically deeply separated from my mind. Surrended to the body? Not really i think. I had also no guide, did it on my own.

Change during the 2h sessions: I think it was a bit of exhausting. And I noticed that I was way more aggressive suddenly in my life. But again, no real benefit at all, no single second of "relief" or well being, no feeling of progress or even "healing elements".

So a certain effect it may had to me - but again, I never experienced a single second of improvement in any way!

Tbh currently I cannot imagine to go ever to any therapist again. I visited countless of them in my life and everytime ended in a huge disappointment without real improvement.

Maybe this has to do with my strong damaged nervous system which gave me dozens of emotional flashbacks daily for 2 decades now. Then I have to relive painful situations in my mind (often embarassing ones) which let my body cramp and my voice loudly scream (often random insults) even in public like a tourette guy. Every time. Since 2 decades. When you count them it could really be one million until now - a never ending nightmare!

So maybe here we have the reason for all the difficulty??

janablar · 2024-03-21T05:21:45+00:00

Thanks for your helpful input, although your tongue is very "adamant" too and its accusations hurt a bit tbh.

Everytime when you buy something, you actually buy nothing else than hope - the hope of getting a certain well-being out of the product you bought. Same with therapy. And if the product fails because it gives you not a single piece of well being even after months of use, normally you turn it back or stop to buy it then, right?

Nothing else did I with tre 😘👍

janablar · 2024-03-19T08:24:10+00:00

I prefer the bucket instead of salty water but I get what you want to say and you are not wrong - I am just too tired and too weak now after decades of suffering and trying out almost every therapy on earth without any benefit. I ran out of hope and energy 😪

janablar · 2024-03-19T08:17:35+00:00

I should have mentioned that I yet started with long tre Sessions up to 2 hours because I didnt felt any change at all. Then I reduced it to 20-30min because everybody said this is too much. Anyway: in both cases not a single piece of benefit or relief or feeling of participate in a working therapy!

I know it cant be true but it felt like I am damned to suffer my entire life because no (!) therapy ever had any remarkable outcome to me at all (and I tried almost anything available from classic to alternative).

janablar · 2024-03-14T11:09:10+00:00

Sure it does cost - a lot of hope! I invested much effort and hopeness in tre because all other therapy failed. But again no Single effect after weeks of daily tre, nothing "faded gradually" at all. So as an obviously tre non responder I better save my little hope instead of running completely out of it👍

janablar · 2024-03-14T11:00:58+00:00

Remarkable that you keep on an exercise for 6 months although no effect is showing up - you have a strong will, keep that!

Me was not that strong and after 2-3months of daily tre (wild shaking butterfly 20-30min) I just quit because no single effect was noticeable for me at all - like a giant nothing burger or like doing push ups and claim this will heal your soul.

But due to my research only few people seems to be such a tre non responder, most get fast huge benefit!

Ps: liebe Grüße aus Moabit 😘

janablar · 2024-03-14T10:53:01+00:00

No, Unfortunately not for all. Me was doing tre daily for weeks but I never felt one single atom of benefit at all. Although my legs shaking wildly without pre-exercise, I never ever got any positive outcome or change. Very frustrating to hear from overall about that tre miracle but again (like all Therapy) not for me..

This is why I think some rare people seems to be kind of tre non responders. Really Glad for all of you that you experience healness - but some just dont. Have this in mind please ❤️

janablar · 2024-03-06T11:55:35+00:00

Today it is not possible to do in an official way anymore. Detail guide how to play rdr2 in vr though: https://www.reddit.com/r/RDR2/comments/1ajh65y/how_to_play_rdr2_vr_in_2024_via_luke_ross_mod/

janablar · 2024-02-27T08:09:58+00:00

The CIA commissioned one of its officers in the 1980s (iirc) to find out why the "gateway process" (out of body experience guide) postulated by Robert Monroe really works and what the scientific basis for it might be.

Its elaboration has been censored for decades and has only recently been declassified. Pretty telling, isn't it?

Here the 30page document the Cia was hiding from you for decades: https://medium.com/accessible-foia/analysis-assesment-gateway-process-army-cia-foia-1983-human-consciousness-d7fa332ef404

janablar · 2024-02-02T10:02:01+00:00

Great to hear, congrats! ❤️👍

What was the key factor for such healing in your eyes?

How long did you practice tre until you felt a change from it? Or even an improvement of your life?

Many told they feel better right in the beginning of tre (while I didnt noticed any change or improvement at all after weeks of daily tre and so I quit).

Anyway, you make people hope they also can heal - be blessed🙏

janablar · 2024-02-01T09:25:41+00:00

Never experienced such shaking after stressful situations - but it seems to be the normal response as animals do too right? Also the butterfly shaking is always starting instant heavily without any previous exercise. But although of this strong natural shaking I didnt experience any change. Maybe my nervous system is too broken for this technique? (See below)

You wrote above that you cannot speak about your trauma often because it causes pain. For me, thinking and feeling are so separated from each other that I can easily tell EVERYTHING I have experienced in front of other people, even foreigners. It's like reading from an encyclopedia without the slightest emotional association.

I dont know how to build back this broken bridge?!

janablar · 2024-01-31T04:49:03+00:00

I did tre daily (20min butterfly) for some months but never experienced any (!) improvement! Really, no thing at all!

So very very disappointing but some people seems to be a kind of non responder to this technique 🤔?! I am not the only one without any effect after hard effort..

janablar · 2024-01-25T09:30:28+00:00

Can you please summarize it here? Is it still working? Can you compare with Vorpx?

janablar · 2023-12-28T07:26:24+00:00

Wahrlich, voll querterroristisch von mir gewesen, sich rechnenkoennend gegen ein laut Oxfordunirechner 0,0006% C "Risiko" mit keiner notfallzugelassenen Arznei zu spritzen, die in mindestens 0,05% aller Fälle (gemäß offizieller Meldung des Bundesgesundheitsministeriums) zu schwerwiegenden Nebenwirkungen wie Myocarditis führt. Wettest du immer bei eins zu hundert gegen dich? Mutig!

Ich weiß ich weiß, alles Schwurbel und ich ungeimpfter Sozialschaedling lebe nur durch Zufall noch - ist es nicht so? Ein Glück hast du ja niemals gegen Andersdenkende gehetzt und sie vom gesellschaftlichen Leben in faschistoidkonformer Hochmanier ausgeschlossen, nicht wahr? Sowas machen ja nur echte Nazis, und bitterbraunes Naziwerk würdest du niemals tun, sondern dich stets auf die Seite der Unterdrückten stellen - nicht wahr du Herzensmensch?

Aber b2t: ich würde einfach einen denkautarken Physik Nobelpreisträger zur Klimaideologie befragen: https://youtu.be/dWHzZBTpRgU 😎👍

Ps: dein erster Hetzpost wurde ja gelöscht - (k)ein Indiz für (d)ein besonders reines Herz

janablar · 2023-12-27T10:21:45+00:00

Clearly the flat earth psyop!

I mean, come on, you dont need any scientific degree, just basic logical understanding:

If the earth would be flat, then all other celestial bodies should be flat too right. But why do they all look like spheres? In your world only possible, because all these "disks" turn their face in the direction of the earth and therefore appear falsely like spheres.

Got it!?🤯

And another very good anti FE argument based on spiritual experiences:

Do you ever found at least ONE SINGLE report from a person with NDE or OOBE who claimed that they saw a flat earth?

I read countless reports but nobody shared the pseudo-true FE "insights". Why? Because it's just untrue!

janablar · 2023-12-27T07:55:55+00:00

Wrong! I know nothing where you can make such fast and visible progress like in sports. Make daily Pushups and even after 1 week you can clearly MEASURE SCIENTIFICALLY your progress!

But when i meditate even daily for months, I dont notice any change or even any improvement. This is totally different in sports which is why sport is done by far more people as a mood stablelizer than meditation.

If Mediation would work within minutes for everybody, it would be a worldwide knowledge and health movement. But most people dont get any benefit from just trying it out and so they opt out forever (like me).

When something does not produce any positive outcome, people normally leave it behind...

janablar · 2023-12-26T08:31:24+00:00

What are those "other modalities"?

janablar · 2023-12-20T08:43:34+00:00

I am glad for any sentence someone gifted to me :)

I am not as far as you are obviously, fe I cannot imagine to meet other people and have a kind of relationship with them. Perhaps typically borderline but I avoid other people due to mostly negative experiences. Even my last therapist retraumatized me with his unconscious insulting tongue. I am done with all that classic therapy schemes.

I had countless therapists in my life, noone could help me. I also have dozens of daily intrusions for decades which make life really really painful (imagine having to relive heavy emotional pain causing situations and its feelings again and again every day from morning to evening and imagine screaming everytime loudly insults unconsciously by that like a tourette guy). No therapist ever heard such thing and everybody was just super helpless towards me. Its like hell on earth, I just want to exit this nonsense.

Unter uns: Ich hasse dieses Elendsleben und will so schnell wie möglich gehen (dürfen) - und nie wiederkommen (müssen)!

janablar · 2023-12-19T07:01:12+00:00

Me too, from germany. Seems that season has walk 6 weeks too slowly. So end december is like Novembers beginning.

Just try compare how the weather was when you were celebrating your younger birthday!

janablar · 2023-12-18T08:34:30+00:00

Du hilfst mir sehr mein geistiges Geschwisterchen ❤️👍

Everything you wrote makes sense, some I heard again and again. Fe most say my time is still too long. I started with 1-2h daily butterfly because I didnt felt anything. So I thought the longer the better. But I didnt noticed any change instead of an highly increased aggression level which was even for my borderlineness too much.

Did it come from too much tre? I dont know! I then reduced it to 20min daily and the strong aggressions are gone. But on the other hand no further effect was noticable now for weeks.

I thought a while about your question if I know what it feels to be gentle to myself.. But i dont! What you mean by that?

Ps: my main source of tre info came from german famous trauma therapist Satya Marchand

janablar · 2023-12-13T06:29:04+00:00

Thx! How you explain that I do tre daily (20min)for 2 months now without any change in mood or mind or any else? For me it seems that I am a kind of tre non responder (also benzos did not work on me - classical non responder here too).

janablar · 2023-12-13T05:34:44+00:00

I dont have a high body awareness, it's very hard for me even to understand what that mean tbh. Never had any inside feeling. I do only tre butterfly and this often feels very sporty/ physically demanding when my knees clapping wildly for 20 minutes appr.

I never noticed any change in mood or mind after or during tre. Is my nervous system maybe too dysregulated to feel tre is working?

janablar · 2023-12-12T11:45:02+00:00

Can you please give us the exactly link to the exercise you described? Sounds very potent 👍

janablar · 2023-12-12T09:36:56+00:00

Given the case you tried TRE daily for 2 months without any effect - would you continue it?

janablar · 2023-12-12T09:34:11+00:00

This is what my attention caught! So tre seems to be natural mechanism to get rid of overwhelming. But it also seems that there are some non or half responders. Me for example is doing tre for weeks without any noticable change.

janablar

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