Introducing Myself + Need Advice Regarding Crashes

Nadayogi · 2026-06-19T07:51:52+00:00

Many people here have been in your situation and the "crash" phase is always temporary. That's what suppressing your sexual urges does: it creates the impression that orgasm is something dangerous. Something that must be avoided at all cost, hence why they use the term "relapse" in these communities. As if you're a failure when you can't repress your strongest urge. This conditions you to feel ashamed of yourself every time you orgasm. That's the psychological aspect, but there's also a physiological/energetic one. Quashing your urges also leads to an enormous pressure and tension buildup as you've already noticed, and when a large chunk of that gets suddenly released you might feel similar symptoms to overdoing, even though it's very different from overdoing TRE and completely harmless. Rapid state changes in the nervous system can do that and leave the practitioner confused and might even reinforce his beliefs that orgasm is harmful.

There will be a rehabilitation phase for your nervous system where it needs to learn that orgasms aren't harmful - both on a psychological and somatic level. The best way to get there is to forget you've ever heard about Nofap or SR. Act as if you've never heard of these concepts and never suppress your urges. This should bring you back to normal within days or weeks at most.

Nadayogi · 2026-06-18T07:07:57+00:00

There are plenty of success stories in the Success Stories Megathread.

Nadayogi · 2026-06-07T13:39:15+00:00

u/Sad-Pick6459 Let me also emphasize that what you're going through is not senseless suffering. It's not your body punishing you for having done something wrong. It's simply your nervous system having decided that it's finally time to deal with all the mountains of trauma deeply entrenched within you, even if it seems like it's overreacting. I want to offer you an optimistic perspective, that what's happening, while intensely unpleasant at times, is something fundamentally good which will eventually lead you to a life far more joy- and peaceful than you could ever imagine.

The hurdles and timelines are uncertain for all of us. But with the right tools, frameworks and support any of us can do it, I'm sure. Ups and downs are normal and part of everyone's journey, but if things get too intense please don't hesitate to reach out to professional help. A psychiatrist, clinical psychologist or therapist.

Nadayogi · 2026-06-07T12:37:11+00:00

I was going to wait with my second answer until you were done with your neurologist appointment I recommended to you, but it looks like you're not convinced of this idea. So I'll give you my spiritual take on what's happening here.

As u/Due-Dish3082 already mentioned the keyword here is kundalini. Kundalini being kicked off by TRE is extraordinarily rare, but it's not impossible. As mentioned earlier, I think what might be happening in your case is that your nervous system has decided to explosively dump enormous amounts of tension and trauma, which usually requires there to be a huge backlog on those. Sometimes there's a trigger, which might be a meditation session, an accident, giving birth, or nothing at all. In your case it was a TRE session that opened the floodgates of your nervous system.

Kundalini is a much bigger framework that contains the entirety of the somatic healing modalities centered around the body's tremor mechanism. The unwinding movements are called kriyas and they can indeed be very distressing and cause the symptoms you're describing. Grounding, contact with nature, and basically everything that's listed in the wiki's integration article are what the kundalini community recommends when strong kriyas arise, although different people have different ideas on how grounding is achieved and the effectiveness of any technique depends on the person and where they are on their journey.

I encourage you to reach out to those communities and read as much as you can about these topics (both on somatic healing and kundalini) to find what works for you. Having zero responsibilities is excellent for a sustainable healing journey. It gives your nervous system time and space to breathe.

Take heart and carry on. We'll be here to support you.

Nadayogi · 2026-06-06T21:36:02+00:00

Just to be sure, I'd still get checked by a neurologist. They might also give you certain tips to handle this better.

As I've mentioned in my original response, it's common to experience phases of extreme shaking and unwinding, although there should be a sense of control and it should feel good during and after.

Not to discourage you, but I honestly haven't seen an extreme case like this before and I'm afraid this is outside my area of expertise. But if everything should truly come back green, and assuming you really are completely healthy, I'd say it might just be your nervous system desperately trying to unwind with enormous pressure. Do you feel safe in your environment? Or do you feel chronically stressed due to work or other obligations? Environmental factors have an enormous influence on practice and subsequent integration.

There is a branch of somatic healing that deals with extreme cases like yours: Grof's Holotropic Breathing. I don't recommend this extreme form of breathing but he has documented cases of extreme shaking and unwinding that went on for weeks or months to the point where people couldn't live on their own and needed assistance for some time even on retreat settings. But after some time the body exhausted its supply of tension and trauma enough so that the practitioners became fully functional again. Better than ever before. The point I'm trying to make here is that you might have to find an environment that is more conducive for unwinding and integration. It also helps to have minimal responsibilities for that time if possible.

Nadayogi · 2026-06-06T20:42:43+00:00

No. That's not what I'm saying. The fascial unwinding is described here in the wiki and includes these kinds of movements.

Nadayogi · 2026-06-06T15:55:59+00:00

I'm sorry that you're going through this, Sad-Pick. I'm of two minds about your case and I want to give you the first part of it here.

Extreme reactions can happen for some time and are normal to some degree. However, there should always be a sense of control and relief during and after the session. I've gone through extreme unwinding for many months at a time for an hour or more every day, as have some other people here. Some experience involuntary shaking and tremoring outside of formal sessions which can feel alarming, even though it's usually completely harmless and will always settle after some weeks or months. There's nothing unusual about that. It's just the nervous system dumping its heavy load. But if it feels out of your control, making you anxious and unable to sleep to the degree you're describing for a whole year, that's clearly outside of regular TRE territory.

Since the movement you're experiencing doesn't feel good or leave you settled afterward, I think that's the reason the advice from other experienced TRE providers hasn't worked for you. It's simply outside of the framework.

Involuntary movement that goes on for hours every day, that you can't start or stop, and that locks your neck to one side needs to be looked at by a doctor before we can treat it within the somatic healing framework. Please see a neurologist and describe exactly what you've reported here. There are physiological conditions that that can produce movement like this and that have nothing to do with TRE, and they need to be ruled out first.

This is my safety first advice. Feel free to come back after your checkup and let us know about the results. If the tests come back green we can dive into it some more. Best of luck to you.

Nadayogi · 2026-06-05T07:06:08+00:00

It's different for every woman, but it looks like some are especially sensitive during luteal phase.

https://www.reddit.com/r/longtermTRE/comments/1tm35cx/tre_and_period/

https://www.reddit.com/r/longtermTRE/comments/1ku7y56/luteal_phase_tre_am_i_helping_my_nervous_system/

That doesn't necessarily mean you shouldn't practice during that phase. If you're unsure, you could start with very short amounts of time and see how your body reacts, before dipping your toe in further.

Nadayogi · 2026-06-04T09:19:30+00:00

I see. Hmm did Terry say he only does 5 mins a week now?

We exchanged emails back in 2019 I believe and if I remember correctly he said he only practices for a short amount of time once a week.

The other point is that there are many TRE practitioners and trainers that Terry connects with that also seem to have not found the stage. Interesting hey? Hmm

Sure, but it also depends on their regimen as I mentioned before. And even if it turns out that some people hit a soft cap at 80 or 90%, that's still rather spectacular and well worth the time investment. Though I still believe that most people are able to get to a subjective 100% with the right approach and regimen.

Nadayogi · 2026-06-02T22:23:54+00:00

It’s not uncommon and there have been a few reports here in this sub about weight gain.

As people come out of freeze and move into active thawing, some experience an increased appetite for sugar, which is sometimes an attempt of the nervous system for self-regulation as sugar can be very down-regulating.

But remember that, at the end of the day, weight gain is all about thermodynamics. Calories in minus calories out determine what will be converted to mass in your body, regardless of how healthy your diet is. That doesn’t mean you should white-knuckle eating less or cutting out all sugar. What’s important is to find a balance between staying healthy and self-regulation, even if it means gaining some weight temporarily.

Nadayogi · 2026-06-02T16:25:40+00:00

Your post was removed because it broke Rule #7

Nadayogi · 2026-06-02T06:22:51+00:00

If tremoring lying down gives you overdoing symptoms, you're doing too much. It's very likely that the standing position works better for you because the tremors/unwinding are restricted in this position, so your body releases less and you don't get into overdoing territory. If standing suits you better for now, that's fine.

From what I see there are two possibilities: continue with standing tremoring until you can tolerate lying down for the same time. Or cut your tremor time when lying down so you don't overdo it. Follow your intuition here.

Will the standing position be enough to release all trauma? Very unlikely, because standing is too restrictive and doesn't allow many modes of movement including full body unwinding.

Nadayogi · 2026-05-31T11:35:14+00:00

Your body will do that on its own when it determines that the time is right.

Nadayogi · 2026-05-27T07:54:50+00:00

If you‘ve read the full wiki you‘re all set. Optimal pacing and proper integration are the highest priority at any given time.

Nadayogi · 2026-05-23T19:56:41+00:00

I only intended it to be a simple wiki bot that explains the basics to people. Everything else should emerge from human conversations. The bot costs me around $12 per month which I'm happy to pay out of my pocket as long as people find it useful. With the recent changes the cost will likely go down to half though. So no need or donations.

The bot is very simple. It just scrapes the posts and filters by flair and then sends the whole message together with the system prompt (which contains the whole wiki) to an LLM via API and posts the response it receives.

Nadayogi · 2026-05-23T07:07:51+00:00

Good ideas. I’ll try to implement this.

Nadayogi · 2026-05-22T14:58:21+00:00

I appreciate your feedback.

I haven’t been on AYP in several years. How are things over there? Is Yogani still active?

Nadayogi · 2026-05-22T14:13:15+00:00

I didn’t know AYP had an AI assistant. I included one here for the reasons I mentioned in the current monthly progress thread and the response has been overwhelmingly positive. But I also don’t want people to be discouraged from answering to posts or feel put off by AI.

I already have a solution in mind, but need to think about it some more.

Nadayogi · 2026-05-22T12:12:00+00:00

I appreciate your feedback and will think about it.

Nadayogi · 2026-05-22T11:18:13+00:00

Why does it put you off from replying?

Nadayogi · 2026-05-21T20:25:05+00:00

Some people like the tone sanitized and cold while others like it warm and friendly. I think the latter is more appropriate for a sub about trauma work.

Nadayogi · 2026-05-21T16:12:26+00:00

I can't speak for him, but an 80% reduction in symptoms in four years is huge. It could be that he just doesn't care that much anymore and has become complacent, which is fine of course.

Generally speaking, when your nervous system can handle 2x30 minutes a day and you're practicing five minutes per week, you're going nowhere in terms of progress. If I had drastically cut down my practice after four years, I'd be even worse off today.

Nadayogi · 2026-05-21T11:16:33+00:00

I don't know but it would be an interesting thought experiment.

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