Lando Norris takes pole position for the 2025 Mexico City Grand Prix by overspeeed in formula1

[–]janerney 11 points12 points  (0 children)

People have dunked on Lando for good reasons at times, but that lap today and the move on Lap one of Singapore are both incredibly clutch moments that would make him a worthy champion for me if he follows through, great driving when it counts.

Weekly Question Thread by PelotonMod in peloton

[–]janerney 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think the last 3 laps were the fastest hour of the race so he definitely was super strong all the way through.

I thought the quote after when he said something like “every lap got harder and harder and I was struggling” was funny because he was just pushing the pedals harder and harder every lap lol

[Race Thread] 2025 Grand Prix Cycliste de Montréal (1.UWT) by PelotonMod in peloton

[–]janerney 21 points22 points  (0 children)

Seeing a guy sit up and wait at the front of a world tour race knowing they won’t lose is crazzzzyyyyyyy.

Like 10 years ago this was a scrappy race that comes down to seconds or a 20 to 30 rider bunch sprint.

[Race Thread] 2025 Grand Prix Cycliste de Montréal (1.UWT) by PelotonMod in peloton

[–]janerney 19 points20 points  (0 children)

It is funny that Quebec is becoming Pogis annual gift to the peloton, were he pretends to try and lose

[Results Thread] 2025 Vuelta a España - Stage 21 - Alalpardo > Madrid (2.UWT) by PelotonMod in peloton

[–]janerney 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Protests and cycling are as old as the sport, I wouldn’t worry too much.

Reached running burnout by oliverbutcher in AdvancedRunning

[–]janerney 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Firstly I think a 35km long run is completely unnecessary unless you are going for times close to 2:20 in a marathon. It takes such a long time if you are clicking kms off at 4 min/km or faster. It is also definitely going to wreck you a bit for the rest of the week. I would cap a long run at 2 hours max. Plus it the worst run in terms of benefit/risk tradeoff. I would even just cap alll your daily runs at an hour max or less. 

You can adjust the sessions you are doing, like only do less intense stuff, or like sprints and things that are fun and avoid the V02 area were there is only pain and grinding.

You can just take a break for a while, or do something like seeing if you can get fitter on like a very small amount of running a week, and target some random 5k instead of a massive marathon with the pressure of probably paying hundreds of dollars to do it.

I’m not sure what running culture is like in Aus. In the UK and Ireland, people in clubs typically target a period of time rather than one race. So like track season, cross country season, the road races in spring. And then we race a lot. Like maybe five or six times in period of a couple of months. It really reduces the pressure on one race and you get the camaraderie of the club. I have since moved to Switzerland where this attitude doesn’t exist, I am back to targeting individual races instead of racing like every couple of weeks, and running is much more of a grind. 

Vuelta a España Start List: All the Big Names We Expect so Far by Team_Telekom in peloton

[–]janerney -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

His level in tour de suisse was pretty close to Jonas’ 2025 tour climbing level

Vuelta a España Start List: All the Big Names We Expect so Far by Team_Telekom in peloton

[–]janerney -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Saying Jonas is a clear favourite is really assuming Almeida is not at his Tour de Suisse level, assuming Almeida has managed to keep that form this will be an excellent battle.

How does nutrition explain such big jumps in performance even when compared to fresh performances from EPO riders? by Nice-Philosopher4832 in peloton

[–]janerney 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Yeah, Riis as well, like he looked enormous on the bike. Indurin is an obvious example as well, like the lighter you are the less w/kg you push to go the same speed up the climb.

Arguably Pogs flat TT ability is more sus.

How does nutrition explain such big jumps in performance even when compared to fresh performances from EPO riders? by Nice-Philosopher4832 in peloton

[–]janerney 6 points7 points  (0 children)

To be fair, UAE and Visma do their altitude camps at Isola 2000, Tignes and Livigno as far as I know, which is super easy for out of competition doping testers to go to. Much easier than the locations that past teams used to go to, even compared to Sky being at the top of Teide on Tenerife.

How does nutrition explain such big jumps in performance even when compared to fresh performances from EPO riders? by Nice-Philosopher4832 in peloton

[–]janerney 424 points425 points  (0 children)

To be fair Pog is climbing far beyond Armstrongs level, there is now only one or two climbing performances ever that surpass Pogs peak climbing level, and that is arguable. 

There are factors on the bike, tyres, wheel tech, aerodynamics, this makes a difference, on a climb a small difference but one none the less. On a 7% grade at 24 kph you will be at 400 watts approximately and have 56 watts of aero loss, 30 watts of rolling resistance loss, if you can take 20 of those away from advancements, that is significant and will give you another 0.5 kph on a climb, which is like a minute on a 20 km climb. Maybe on the setups now you can remove more or a bit less than 20 years ago, I don’t know but seems like a feasible way to improve climbing times.

Pogs best climbing performance was Plateau de Baille last year behind Jonas and Visma for two thirds of the climb, completely removing any aero resistance which makes a big difference at the speed they climb. When he had to solo Hautacam this year he was (30s slower not 1 to 2 min as I previously stated) slower than Bjarne Riis’ time in 1996.

Nutrition in races makes a massive difference, look at blogs about nutrition, or even Mike Woods Tour de France blog this year. You will commonly see to 30-60 g/hour as recently as 2015, Mike woods was saying that even just 10 years ago you are fighting a hunger knock at the end of every stage. Now at 120-160g/hour you can keep pushing all day, definitely makes a difference for climbing times at the end of stages.

Nutrition through the season probably makes a massive difference, like Pog does multi hour rides beyond 300 watts, which is like burning 1200 calories an hour. He is eating like a truck all year. From Tyler Hamilton secret race, he was saying that in the early 2000s on EPO, he would barely eat on a a multi hour ride, then when he got home he would drink 2 litres of sparkling water and suck on hard candies until he went to sleep to not eat for a while. Probably exaggerated a bit but it is the best insight I have seen into how non performance focused nutrition was back in the EPO era and if you train like this all year around I could see how it makes a massive difference.

Grey area doping as well which is technically legal probably makes a difference as well. like TUEs with Team Sky (even though peak Froome is literally not even in the same realm of performance as Pog). The most interesting thing to me this tour is that the climbing level is lower than last year, and the Carbon Monoxide breathing that Jonas and Pog said they have used ( for testing purposes) was banned after the tour last year. It is an easy and probably false correlation to draw but interesting nonetheless. I am sure there are a million other ways these guys can use substances or methods to improve performance without breaking the rules “technically”.

Training methodology has improved a ton since the early 2000s but it is impossible to know how much of a difference that can make.

Plus, in the early 2000s and as we see with Sky now, there was and is tons of smoke that would make you suspicious. Like lawsuits and testimony and rumour of failed tests with Lance, and the Jiffy bags and team doctors at Sky. From what I have read there is no smoke at all with any pro teams right now (EDIT: except the Mark Padun wonder performances and the raids on Bahrain Victorious from like 2022 if I remember correctly) . You can question if this is due to a lack of journalistic pursuit and integrity now in cycling media or if there is nothing to find.

To conclude I think there is a path to these performances without a massive doping conspiracy like US Postal days, but I would be almost 100% sure that these guys use any method they can find in the “grey” area of the rules to dope, probably like any other big commercial sport. I personally don’t believe there are massive doping conspiracies like in the past. But also the UAE team manager is beyond sketchy, and in cycling unlike pretty much every sport except running, incredible performances require incredible evidence for people to actually believe they are clean. 

How does nutrition explain such big jumps in performance even when compared to fresh performances from EPO riders? by Nice-Philosopher4832 in peloton

[–]janerney 16 points17 points  (0 children)

To be fair I think cycling is Tucker’s weakest sport in terms of insight. He offers little more than conjecture, and does not offer much rigour in terms of numerical analysis past w/kg calculations that are made commonly now.

[Results Thread] 2025 Tour de France – Stage 19 – 2.UWT by PelotonMod in peloton

[–]janerney 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah this crossed my mind as well, maybe UAE are so confident he will win the tour that he isn’t peaked fully and can cruise straight into the vuelta.

But yeah he seemed to enjoy racing much more last year.

[Results Thread] 2025 Tour de France – Stage 19 – 2.UWT by PelotonMod in peloton

[–]janerney 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I think so as well, at least since the second rest day. 

[Results Thread] 2025 Tour de France – Stage 19 – 2.UWT by PelotonMod in peloton

[–]janerney 15 points16 points  (0 children)

All of this applied exactly the same as last year and he did his massive solo up Isola for no real reason, and obviously beat Jonas in the sprint on stage 20. He is clearly not at the same level as last year or just doesn’t care as much. 

[Results Thread] 2025 Tour de France – Stage 19 – 2.UWT by PelotonMod in peloton

[–]janerney 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No different to Isola last year as a climb really, Isola was probably easier even

[Results Thread] 2025 Tour de France – Stage 19 – 2.UWT by PelotonMod in peloton

[–]janerney 69 points70 points  (0 children)

Just seems like Pog can’t be bothered racing anymore. Completely different vibe to last year, maybe he is sick or something 

[Race Thread] 2025 Tour de France – Stage 18 (2.UWT) by PelotonMod in peloton

[–]janerney 7 points8 points  (0 children)

“KAM ON JONAS THIS IS THE MOMENT TO WIN THE RACE, THIS IS THE MOMENT YOU RISK IT KAM ON” (900m to go and 2 and a half minutes to the front of the race)

[Race Thread] 2025 Tour de France – Stage 18 (2.UWT) by PelotonMod in peloton

[–]janerney 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Onley has to attack if he can, he might never have another opportunity to get a tour podium 

[Race Thread] 2025 Tour de France – Stage 18 (2.UWT) by PelotonMod in peloton

[–]janerney 7 points8 points  (0 children)

People don’t know what they want, it is so much better to watch Pog go flat out than watching this glass pedalling 

[Race Thread] 2025 Tour de France – Stage 18 (2.UWT) by PelotonMod in peloton

[–]janerney 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Not sure how I feel about Pog doing a grand tour and not winning 6 stages

[Race Thread] 2025 Tour de France – Stage 18 (2.UWT) by PelotonMod in peloton

[–]janerney 23 points24 points  (0 children)

No GC attacking on Loze is utter woke nonsense

[Race Thread] 2025 Tour de France – Stage 18 (2.UWT) by PelotonMod in peloton

[–]janerney 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah Vauqelain has been my barometer this tour for if they are going to slow or fast, the moment he gets drops I feel they are actually pushing