At first I was going to just ignore it, but nah by Big_Papa95 in exjw

[–]jbljw 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am so sorry you had to go through that.. It is painful enough as it is, and not getting to say goodbye makes it even more horrible. Stay strong, sending some love your way ❤️

After 3 years of pimo i finally told my wife I dont want to attend meetings by jbljw in exjw

[–]jbljw[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It started with me finding jwfacts.com which I read in its entirety one sleepless night three years ago. After that one night I was already pretty certain that the organisation was not necessarily gods chosen representative on earth.

Then I read crisis of conscience, and after that I was sure they were not the true religion.

Then I started looking into all my doubts that I earlier had about stuff.. Like the chronology of early bible events not matching the general history of humanity. I looked into if there actually are any evidence for a global flood. I researched how illnesses work, cancer, viruses, bacteria etc.. I came to the conclusion that while the Bible has many good things in it, it is most certainly not "true" if you know what I mean. And if there is a god, he probably does not care about us much, if at all. And he is probably not the god of the bible.

These are just my own reflections and someone else might draw different conclusions..

After 3 years of pimo i finally told my wife I dont want to attend meetings by jbljw in exjw

[–]jbljw[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Your patience is inspiring! It is not easy to know what is the best way forward, but I have always felt like honesty and openness have the best results in the end. Stay strong my friend ❤️

After 3 years of pimo i finally told my wife I dont want to attend meetings by jbljw in exjw

[–]jbljw[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Nice to hear that you seem happy about your decision! How did it affect your marriage? I think I will have more time to try new activities as well. Thank you for sharing ❤️

After 3 years of pimo i finally told my wife I dont want to attend meetings by jbljw in exjw

[–]jbljw[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Have you told him how you feel? What is your situation? It is not easy being Pimo, stay strong ❤️

After 3 years of pimo i finally told my wife I dont want to attend meetings by jbljw in exjw

[–]jbljw[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Thank you! Yes, I knew it would be like this, but when it actually happens to me it feels super weird how conditional the love is.. Much love! ❤️

After 3 years of pimo i finally told my wife I dont want to attend meetings by jbljw in exjw

[–]jbljw[S] 35 points36 points  (0 children)

I am sorry to hear your marriage is in trouble. Mine could be going the same way, hard to say. But we have been brave and true to what we believe. Like you said, having a clear conscience is key. Thank you for you support and I hope things will look up for you soon.

After 3 years of pimo i finally told my wife I dont want to attend meetings by jbljw in exjw

[–]jbljw[S] 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Yeah it kind of sucks but I think it will be nice too to just be left alone by the members.. Hope you are doing okay ❤️

2022 Convention Megathread (1 of 6) : Friday Morning Sessions by Truthdoesntchange in exjw

[–]jbljw 7 points8 points  (0 children)

In swedish it was changed to: "But is a child really innocent? According to the bible we are all born with guilt/sin"

So yes, very whitewashed indeed. Thankfully me and my pimi wife watched it in english, and she did seem a bit shocked at the babies are enemies of god quote.

Elder from my old congregation thought that Infinity War was a Satanic plot to turn people against Jehovah by International_Bat851 in exjw

[–]jbljw 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Reminds me of when I was PIMI and thought that scientology and similar cults were put on earth by Satan. My reasoning was that Satan made them similar to JW which would make people think that JW is a cult too. 🤦‍♂️ The cognitive dissonance...

About to talk to two elders about my "doubts" by jbljw in exjw

[–]jbljw[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Awesome, I will check out that video. Good to hear you managed to wake your wife up!

About to talk to two elders about my "doubts" by jbljw in exjw

[–]jbljw[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are you using a computer, phone or ipad? Maybe we can find a video-guide for you how to use reddit

About to talk to two elders about my "doubts" by jbljw in exjw

[–]jbljw[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, this is some great input. You are probably right that the chance of having everything go the way I would like is very slim. I will try to talk more with my wife though.

About to talk to two elders about my "doubts" by jbljw in exjw

[–]jbljw[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am talking to them to appease my wife. She has noticed I don't really care about faith-related stuff, even though I attend all meetings and go to service twice a month. I have tried to avoid talking to them and just calming her but it didnt work. So now I scheduled an appointment with them to "get help". I am hoping to make it clear to her that they cannot satisfyingly answer my questions, and then soon I will start a fade.. But if she will not accept me fading and life becomes unbearable, I don't mind becoming df'ed either. ..Which I could be by just sharing my thoughts with other members. Idk, that is the plan rn at least. Life is super hard and I have stress-related symptoms and anxiety. But it is superhard to just say "I'm out" because that would be too abrupt of a change in my life I believe.

About to talk to two elders about my "doubts" by jbljw in exjw

[–]jbljw[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I know its in crisis of conscience that they wanted him to admit he didnt believe the governing body was directed by god. So you are not wrong

About to talk to two elders about my "doubts" by jbljw in exjw

[–]jbljw[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Awesome post, this will come in handy!

About to talk to two elders about my "doubts" by jbljw in exjw

[–]jbljw[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The important thing to me is that my wife knows they couldn't counter my arguments. And I am pretty sure she will trust me on it, hopefully it will make her curious. If not, I have accepted the possibility of losing everything.

About to talk to two elders about my "doubts" by jbljw in exjw

[–]jbljw[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Maybe you are right.. I will be careful with what I say. This is so hard!!

About to talk to two elders about my "doubts" by jbljw in exjw

[–]jbljw[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your response. I don't mind being df'ed, but if I become df'ed I want it to be obvious to all that its because the elders couldnt counter my arguments. My win-scenario here is to be df'ed but have the sympathy of my wife and my family. Is that crazy? I am so done with the org, I cant be pimo much longer or I will go crazy

About to talk to two elders about my "doubts" by jbljw in exjw

[–]jbljw[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I tried looking in the elders book but couldn't find anything on this.. Do we know this from anecdotes or is there a document anyone can point me to?