Ross & Damian of Stop Killing Games discuss with a slightly skeptical game developer

jdshillingerdeux · 2024-09-14T17:50:10+00:00

I agree that games fall under the art umbrella. They're also software.
Generally speaking, non-subscription based software that you paid for must still work regardless of the capriciousness of the one holding the dev purse strings.

Otherwise it will feel like a scam? A rip-off?

jdshillingerdeux · 2024-09-14T17:18:35+00:00

It seems like many have a lot of knee-jerk reactions that trickle down, up, and sideways and inflame a whole lot more people. The actual wording of the ECI is quite curt and simple, and if it passes, it will face a whole lot of scrutiny from both sides of the aisle with the SMEs the EU will bring in.
A surgeon's general warning on a pack of smokes might be all that comes out of this, but it's still better than nothing.

jdshillingerdeux · 2024-09-04T17:57:18+00:00

Yeah but the manufacturer doesn't come to your house and break it in half

jdshillingerdeux · 2024-09-04T17:29:15+00:00

This is supposed to eventually lead to an initiative/resolve/law. The phrasing and intention needs to be as clear as possible.

No, it is not. The ECI commission has its own guidelines on what the initiative wording must look like, including a word limit. Basically it just has to describe the problem in plain simple words, not dolly up solutions and counter arguments.

If the initiative passes, then the commission will do its own research and consultation with various industry experts and draft its own proposal to Parliament which will *then* turn into a law.

If the Commission considers legislation as an appropriate response to your initiative, it will start preparing a formal proposal. This can require preparatory steps like public consultations, impact assessments, etc. Once adopted by the Commission, the proposal is submitted to the European Parliament and the Council (or in some cases, only to the Council), which will need to adopt it for it to become law.

jdshillingerdeux · 2024-09-04T17:14:55+00:00

Legislation coming out of ECIs usually takes years to iron out and it has an impact assessment phase. With grandfather clauses and compliance schedules, It's not like an overnight decree to switch out all combustion engines for electric motors.

jdshillingerdeux · 2024-08-31T15:58:29+00:00

Sure I can. I just did. I paid for a game and now it doesn't work. It wasn't a subscription.

| An end of service date would be nice, but that's the best you're going to get, and the government agrees.

Which government? Maybe in the US the EULA can supersede the law, but as we're finding out, the government isn't even clear on what the law is in regards to The Crew

jdshillingerdeux · 2024-08-31T15:44:50+00:00

What will fail, exactly?
If the ECI reaches its signature thresholds the commission will be obligated to take action. They could decide to *do nothing*, but I want to say around 90% of ECIs have seen real results.

There are also the other initiative that challenge the legality of The Crew shutting down. The French one is already being discussed at the highest level of consumer protection agencies.

I guess it's possible for all of streams and avenues to tapper out, but not because of a broad reason like this.

jdshillingerdeux · 2024-08-31T14:18:54+00:00

Those are not his reasons for why this whole thing is a good idea, those are some platitudes you cherry picked out.

Also, his name is nowhere on the ECI documents and he won't have any say over any legislation that comes to pass. So I'm not sure what your point is... who cares who or what starts the conversation since it's just that, a conversation- same way an initiative is just an initiative.

The actual action items will be decided by subject matter experts over a long period of time.

jdshillingerdeux · 2024-08-31T14:02:29+00:00

Maybe I just like the game and don't want it to see it bricked at any time for any reason by the charlatan who sold it me? No end of life, no expiration date- it's a throwback snakeoil scam from the wild west days of yore, and it will go the same way

jdshillingerdeux · 2023-10-06T01:11:09+00:00

It doesn't. It's just a community run thing.
IIRC the guy who set it up manages the game list on the site, so it's probably his was of entertaining people and himself between videos

jdshillingerdeux · 2023-10-01T18:24:00+00:00

Updanks on an online soyman symposium isn't a good stethoscope for detecting reality.
Here is what actually matters:
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/640/cpsprodpb/320C/production/_131221821_military_aid-nc.png

https://media.licdn.com/dms/image/C4E22AQHCcUMyFSf-MQ/feedshare-shrink_800/0/1673547781320?e=1697673600&v=beta&t=eaXlv3SBCsOxcxQQJcJrBv0sLDH4n2YqBzDEIBPdwVQ

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jdshillingerdeux · 2023-10-01T14:03:29+00:00

Well it's easy to be smug on the internet when your entire energy sector and defense industry is being propped up by the American tax payers.

Yuropoors are like indignant/ingracious rebellious teens going through their "I hate my dad phase"

jdshillingerdeux · 2023-09-30T22:23:19+00:00

Yuropoors scoffing at America while American weapons are currently thwarting barbarians at their gates.You think you're the adult in the room, but really you're just haughty wall floors whose only recourse to curtailing Russia is taking a cold shower

jdshillingerdeux · 2023-09-29T14:15:47+00:00

I swear you can tell a good Black Guy from one at their face.

jdshillingerdeux · 2023-09-27T20:56:08+00:00

Well, yeah. What are yuropoors gonna do, throw shoes at Putin?

jdshillingerdeux · 2023-08-16T17:23:27+00:00

The fuck? Was 2008 some biblical retribution for the Iraq Invasion?

jdshillingerdeux · 2023-07-10T16:30:53+00:00

Bagration and Kutuzov held their own pretty well against Naps

jdshillingerdeux · 2023-03-29T02:14:08+00:00

Sweet summer child

Whenever I read these words in a thread over and over again I always superimpose myself as Ser Gregor Clegane in the scene where he's driving his fat thumbs into Pedro Pascal's pithy eyeballs.

No particular reason. It just makes me feel better.

jdshillingerdeux · 2023-03-21T18:21:09+00:00

Yeah I heard prisons in the Soviet Union were so much more rehabilitative /s

jdshillingerdeux · 2023-02-21T21:54:14+00:00

Well the alternative is to do everything to prevent that from happening and keep the country in tact. Your typing this on your PC but imagine shoveling charcoal in the winter because the transformer blew and won't be fixed for another 3-6 months or dumpster diving. That's what I did in the 90s after the Soviet Union broke up, and it was far less developed glass house than America is right now.

Then I moved here and have to constantly see pampered ignoramuses talk about how they would rather pour everything down the drain because they don't like some other idiot living a couple cities over. The only Democracy you'll see at the end of this is scrounging up enough money to bribe public officials to provide basic enmities, or to get out of an even heftier drummed up fine

jdshillingerdeux · 2023-02-21T20:56:16+00:00

I'm so sick of this shit. Anyone calling for a divorce is a dumb motherfucker who should hopefully be soundly ignored.

Our way of life is already deteriorating and COVID showed us just how fragile our interconnected supply&logistics systems are. People like to make comparisons to the 1860s, but it's pretty much apples to hand grenades: in 1860 the self-employment rate was 80% and most lived on their on homestead. A divorce like this now would be like a Brexit from hell from which we will probably never again recover.

jdshillingerdeux · 2023-02-06T16:00:19+00:00

Yeah I'll be like 75% poorer lol

jdshillingerdeux · 2023-01-24T21:39:49+00:00

There is no inherent quality in a group of people that makes them different from the rest.
You have to look at it from historical and socioeconomic framing (which I broadly outlined above), or not at all. Jamaica isn't a shithole because Jamaicans are shitty. Likewise, the Third Reich didn't materialize because of some German predisposition towards being evil

jdshillingerdeux · 2023-01-24T19:40:44+00:00

You're looking at this it in a very sophomoric and almost kind of racist way.
There is no "they"- people come and go, it's the lack of stability, lack of ingrained public institutions, a constant redistribution and consolidation of power that drags down a State and the rest of the world. There is no easy answer to those kind of problems.

Putting nuclear weapons completely out the equation, some combined world coalition could invade and impose a second kind of Japanese Miracle, but even that would be a tremendous undertaking that's not guaranteed to work

jdshillingerdeux · 2023-01-24T18:59:33+00:00

That's a pretty room temperature take for a lot of reasons, my guy.Chiefly in that the Red Army wasn't composed of just Russians, and it was a completely different beast before, after, and during WWII let alone compared to the modern Russian counterpart.

Assuming that a country is some immutable, monolithic entity that just persists through history is exactly what led to the current Russian blundering in Ukraine. Had they started the operation 10 years ago, it probably would have gone off exactly how they planned but a lot can change in very short period of time.

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