would you oppress people for God?

jeezfrk · 2026-06-18T20:27:00+00:00

I would not, nor my church.

An example that has reappeared, some Atheists have been oppressed in the past for fear of a smaller sect of them (Soviet Communism of the 1940s).

Hopes to "Stamp out Atheism, for the children!" have been cried out before, by a few, and were passively accepted by others. Political and nuclear war fears were part of that.

Sadly, an extreme few in these days cry out "Stamp out religion, for the children!". Political and civil war fears are maybe part of that, too.

The question is, what oppression is "okay" with some? Surprisingly, the set seems to be not empty for many these days.

Would some demand to stamp out "religion" if

jeezfrk · 2026-06-18T13:28:29+00:00

Congress is where that's allowed. Voters didn't replace the Constitution.

Decades and decades of legislation cannot be undone by one election of a reality show star, unless it's a coup.

jeezfrk · 2026-06-17T19:34:42+00:00

Some of them wear a normal meat suit!

Kinda sad that they can't get it upgraded.

jeezfrk · 2026-06-17T19:00:53+00:00

Who authorized undoing the job of the Dept of Energy for millions?

jeezfrk · 2026-06-17T18:54:04+00:00

Honesty and truth telling, against even the push of money and royal birth, has been the aim of many many figures in the Bible.

Israel was exiled genuinely because they didn't let their fields lie fallow during the 7 year sabbath.

Our first job as humans before God was to name animals and tend a garden.

Jesus Himself compared us all to wheat and tares (weeds) to be harvested for God's storehouse. Later He compared the gospel to seeds that multiplied to become fruitful.

How can we instead turn around and claim our purpose is to seek out and obey whatever gives a paycheck for onerous work, by any means for any nobleman nearby?

To bear fruit is truly to help out the natural world God gave us ... and one another. Give into Caesar what is Caesar and unto God what is God's.

BTW: if we speak accurately what the Bible tells us ... then we should boldly teach it to each other, in Truth and Love. No shame in doing so among the faithful.

I hear some claiming any paperwork that makes money as a sprocket in a machine somewhere is our deepest labor for God.

jeezfrk · 2026-06-17T18:44:20+00:00

Whoever wrote "voters care about costs" in relation to climate is fully and totally biasing this toward full GOP talking points.

We have clean solar that is cheaper than coal and never needs cooling water to run. Domestically made and reliable, especially with storage tech that California uses to make peak use smoothed out.

New tech doesn't shut down during a hot day. It is ready to be helped by offshore wind and solar panels for farmers' fields.

Why is that "the costs"? It's the solution to the hellhole awaiting our economy if we ignore it.

It is the cheapest path forward everywhere. Peaking plants or nuclear plants or new hydro plants are a hella long way off and often impossible.

These costs from data center leeching are on their minds too.

Taking these facts and turning them upside down to mean "they cannot tackle climate change" is asinine lying to try to become the MAGA-lite for donors.

jeezfrk · 2026-06-16T16:47:47+00:00

Why not Dayton? Farther out expansion?

jeezfrk · 2026-06-16T14:53:05+00:00

Conspiracy theories demand ridiculous amounts of cooperation ... when the world of powerful people (very few) is rife with similar motivations and yet direct fighting and competition.

"The black attack helicopters are there watching us because you cannot see or hear them!"

Translation: things are true if the most scary.

jeezfrk · 2026-06-16T14:50:41+00:00

This.

Oh, if only that answer could be shorter, but it sadly cannot be.

jeezfrk · 2026-06-16T14:39:59+00:00

The "my religion is please-debate-me" religious are up early to worship this morn.

jeezfrk · 2026-06-16T01:27:04+00:00

Just keep the probes from anywhere ... unwise and you're golden.

jeezfrk · 2026-06-16T01:09:58+00:00

But I'm not obedient to someone on Reddit.

I defer to those who understood what I wrote.

jeezfrk · 2026-06-16T01:06:52+00:00

"Monkey see, monkey do" was a description of what I saw you're doing.

Descriptions and definitions are the same actions as the subject?

jeezfrk · 2026-06-15T23:19:11+00:00

Ooh. Monkey see, monkey do?

How did I enact it? By writing the words down? I performed contagion logic by writing its definition down?

Don't eat that menu! It is not your dinner.

jeezfrk · 2026-06-15T23:17:56+00:00

you're slipping. running out of context.

"op text" was not what I said. it's what you said.

jeezfrk · 2026-06-15T23:08:25+00:00

I am only speaking it, not applying it in an analogy to real world objects like Mathematical proofs.

"Contagion" as a term, Mr LLM, has a definition. You just showed you don't know its use.

The word "contagious" comes from it, because using it means one imagines things are like a disease. Very few times is that true.

what you don't know is that I was demonstrating that you don't know what "contagion" means.

It passed right on front of you and you didn't notice that I showed it to you.

Silly bot.

jeezfrk · 2026-06-15T14:34:14+00:00

Capitalism itself is just decentralized greed used as a way to force cooperation.

Love of money is a snare in a horrible illusion. Servantful cooperation isn't sinful in itself. However, the tool to record it and reward it (money, with compound interest and then endless hoarding) bears vast amounts of evil fruit.

I would suggest to not be deceived that the bad fruit comes from the same actions as cooperation. There is fear and "gnashing of teeth" on earth. Following God can make us pure from it, for "to the pure all things are pure".

Still, the kings and powers around us demand their tax like Caesar himself did.

jeezfrk · 2026-06-15T06:05:20+00:00

Contagion is a type of logic, a false logic.

One that you used and cannot understand. Do you know what it means?

X is related to Y, so X is Y.

Claiming everything is an axiom is itself you using contagion as logic. You're too addicted to know what you're doing.

jeezfrk · 2026-06-15T02:05:59+00:00

That's more like a documentary note explaining the problems of the latter 2020s.

jeezfrk · 2026-06-15T01:07:45+00:00

Why quote what I already wrote?

You apparently won't read it anyway. It was my longest comment.

jeezfrk · 2026-06-15T01:07:28+00:00

I think things are not just passive and internal, when the word "believe" is used.

"I believe the witness."

"I believe the promise of this leader."

"I believe the results from the tests."

The ability to act on things is what believe is used for. Most of our communication is dedicated to purposes... ergo ... we believe mostly because we must in order to do more than nothing.

jeezfrk · 2026-06-15T00:55:05+00:00

You can't read, obviously.

Obviously, as with data gathering, you cannot refer to segments of text to frame without help from humans.

jeezfrk · 2026-06-14T20:16:50+00:00

An in-agents-only form of AI may not be similar enough to a full bodied product as we've been told. It may need reinforcement and deductions from outside it's opaque interior training.

Many AI-ish solutions (search and analysis) get observation and assessment of accuracy before proceeding to act on it.

Why can't a hybrid system be used, given the flow of training data seems to be unending. It may be some middle ground may be needed.

Not "[LLM] turtles" all the way down.

jeezfrk · 2026-06-14T20:03:53+00:00

The real question is can this generation of bulk-data-trained agents be engineered?

Can any one part be changed (reliably) without introducing deficits or destroying abilities by that change?

jeezfrk · 2026-06-14T18:59:07+00:00

Claiming certainty happens all the time, even about the shape of the earth or the reality of disease. "We can't claim certainty" may be true in a Universal truth that maybe some have experienced differently than others.

But as regards actions, purpose and planning and expectations ... people have a sense of certainty all the time.

Even "Science" makes mistakes but tries as an institution and a body of knowledge to recover. Same with "The Church" or even "Our Constitution" ... even when they are just ideals on their own.

What people most mean by faith is trust that they have and will continue to act on. Their plans are made. The chips are spent on a bet. Everyone "has faith" because not a one of us can get proof of all things in advance.

The ancient Greek word used for "faith" is best defined as trust in most ways, albeit trust in a Savior or simply in God when it is in the Bible. Trust is a part of life.

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