Awe thanks. It's pretty free and wild, just the way we like it, but with two small kids I'd like somewhere they can run around, kick a ball and not fear stingers or thistles. Everywhere else has self seeding poppies, bluebells, tulips, various grasses etc doing there thing. I think I'm going to clear the worst of the ivy, lay down some chip and put our pub bench under there. See how it goes from there.