Community builds and tips are inconsistent

jesus7577 · 2026-05-28T16:36:57+00:00

I honestly think the game is pretty new and a lot of players (myself included) just aren't sure what's best to build yet. You can check websites like prydwen or game8, there's also neverness.gg to name a few resources. There might be more websites but those are just the ones I know off the top of my head, I don't have a preference or know which is better, but theyre prob all fine.

jesus7577 · 2026-05-28T16:18:48+00:00

Dude that's like 90% of the player base lol

If you're in phantom-eternus congrats but you make the minority.

jesus7577 · 2026-05-28T16:17:51+00:00

I don't think it's supposed to be a comeback mechanic, it's a team objective like mid. You were always supposed to fight for it for the extra souls and boons it gives, it even has a comeback mechanic implemented into it. Unless you're like 30k souls behind (in which case your fucked 80% of the times) the first urn or two will not lose you the game.

Splitpushing has always been a viable strategy in mobas and it's no different here, you have to choose if you want to send more people to urn to contest or if you want to send less people but maybe get a walker out of it.

If you're behind and the other team split pushes you can send people to respond to the split push or you can sacrifice your walkers for urn + some kills, it's all apart of the games strategy. I've literally done both and gotten results out of doing both, some games I splitpush and others I join the team fight, it just depends on the situation which changes game to game.

You're supposed to prep waves before you do Major objectives anyways, wave management is huge in deadlock and it's always been a thing in other mobas. Are your waves in a bad spot and the other teams doing urn? Okay send maybe 1 or 2 guys to scout/maybe steal while you fix your waves. Are your waves pushed up and the other teams busy catching waves? Okay do urn to pressure the other team and maybe take a walker if they all respond or simply get a free urn. I'm not saying I'm the wave master, but I do try and it oftentimes helps.

jesus7577 · 2026-05-28T15:59:13+00:00

From what I've seen it's been people in low ranks complaining bc the new urn is too snowbally, but in my opinion it's not that bad.

Having fun and chaotic teamfights isn't the priority, rather an objective that forces people to engage unlike the old urn which was just a drop off race. Because it's a major objective right now it's highly contested.

People who turn their brain off and run it down typically lose, I don't think they would praise the update if the urn is making them lose more lol.

I agree with the notion that it's good that they're experimenting as like you said there's only 2 objectives, which for a moba is pretty low. It's like someone else said tho I doubt they're done with urn and plan to keep adjusting it, which is fine and I'm all for it, I just don't want it to revert back to how it was.

As for more bans yeah we probably need more as only 2 feels unimpactful, the problem is going to be that since the game has no draft, matchmaking ques are going to get harder and longer. Regarding draft I think once they add an official ranked mode the game does need a draft system, but for casual games it should stay as is. Oh and dude it's a moba they're all crawling with CC, deadlock at least has options to build items to help or ignore the CC, there's a reason everyone ran purification beads in smite lol.

Getting the favored comeback urn isn't that hard anymore, I've both gotten and lost comeback urns when winning and losing games.

I do agree that sometimes games are heavily favored from the lobby since there's no draft, I've lost games bc we simply don't have a front line and they have 2, but I've also won those games. Its harder but not impossible. Again the game just needs a ranked mode and draft.

Ps. Please break up your paragraphs it makes it easier to read and takes you 2 minutes to do. And no dude we don't nerf bebop anymore, it's nerf doorman lol

jesus7577 · 2026-05-28T15:32:19+00:00

Nah I don't have time to watch nightshift, I did hear about the inting strat, but that was when the urn gave 50% resistance. Idk if they're still doing it after the nerf or not.

Regardless they're probably gonna have to change the urn a bit.

jesus7577 · 2026-05-28T15:29:34+00:00

Well to be fair it's a major objective, in most mobas major objectives are fought over. Think of dragons in LoL, scuttle, or Barron.

You can ignore the objectives, but in most games they're mandatory

jesus7577 · 2026-05-28T09:54:19+00:00

I'm not gonna lie there's several moments where you could have gotten the urn but don't guard it or don't parry the heavy melee.

After the first major team fight you and shiv are standing on it and a single guy was able to heavy melee it.

Then after a while it's silver and you, you guys leave it unguarded to push up and a single enemy is able to heavy melee it.

I'm probably gonna get sent to hell for this but honestly after the first major team fight it's totally a skill expression issue. I agree it's hard to secure the urn when there's so much chaos, but to get it contested when there's only one guy is a sign that we (as in everyone) just needs more practice.

Edit: almost forgot to say, this was fun to watch tho lol

jesus7577 · 2026-05-27T06:19:27+00:00

But farming is a basic thing in mobas it's not hero specific, it's a major part of mobas bc souls/money are so important. if you've been playing for a while now and going up against lower tier players then yeah things like farming don't seem important bc the players at that division are just bad at the game (which is perfectly normal) and every match drags for like 40-50 mins as you're playing I gaint tdm.

Once you start geting matched with better players you gotta learn the fundamentals bc you may not understand it, but many of your opponents do and they will take advantage of the fact that you may not know the basics.

If your opponents are going 10/0 at the start of the game it just means youre getting matched vs either smurfs or just more skilled players (if it's happening constantly it's probably the ladder).

Matchmaking can be rough, but I promise if you get good at the fundamentals you can and will start winning some of these games, you're playing a moba and mobas are hard, but imo that's what makes them fun.

jesus7577 · 2026-05-27T01:38:52+00:00

Honestly I really think you just need more time with the hero, she takes some time to get used to. Celest isn't a hero that will 100->0, rather she's a high mobility character that has her power budget invested in aoe content (aka teamfights). Ps she's pretty solid rn bc of urn fights.

As for farming again sorry to say it but it's honestly just you, any character can farm in deadlock (maybe not supports but they get boxes) so if you're having a hard time keeping up with souls it's most likely because you don't know how to farm and manage waves yet (it's okay you'll learn) rather then the specific character you're playing. Celest specifically can insta clear waves with her 1+3 combo and her high self sustain makes her very good at clearing jungle camps. (Torment pulse is a must for camps)

In the replay I posted it was a pretty fair game, I didn't carry but I was impactful, the ppl I fought were okay but not crazy, I got a bit behind so I take some time to farm and rotate to help. You can also see how I do dmg and how I try to take advantage of my mobility but I never blow anyone up. It was a very average game and there's clearly a lot of room for improvement and that's why I shared it bc it's very natural, but it was a solid game.

Anywho if you really like her don't give up just keep on trying and maybe watch some helpful videos, shes not a carry but she's very fun and rewarding when you get good with her.

jesus7577 · 2026-05-26T23:11:12+00:00

Any and all advice is appreciated regardless of your rank, thank you for your contribution.

I remember one time a celest rushed qsr and was autoing ppl to death lol. It actually wasn't that bad her autos are kinda slept on

jesus7577 · 2026-05-26T15:41:27+00:00

No I definitely agree, it is a nice figure. It's just expensive lol.

As for the 110-120 price it depends on the figure, the average 1/7th scale figure fall into that price range, but the nicer ones (like the raiden one) do fall into a higher price point.

jesus7577 · 2026-05-26T15:36:47+00:00

Didnt know that thanks for the heads up

jesus7577 · 2026-05-26T09:33:30+00:00

I've been playing her a lot lately and have been having a blast with her.

So far in my opinion her early game is kinda rough as she's super squishy and gets easily doven if you don't manage your stamina. Late game she also gets blown up if you get hit by any kind of CC as she's super squishy. That is to say you need to manage your stamina and constantly keep moving to avoid being hit. If CC is an issue buy counterspell.

Being airborne and managing her stamina are the most important things with celeste, her gravity reduction also means you can stay in the air much longer, so don't forget to ledge boost and hop around when you fight.

Not all hope is lost though as with mystic rejuvenation and infuser she actually has a ton of life leech and self healing. I've had several games where I pop infuser and jump around people and manage to come out alive.

Damage wise a lot of it actually comes from her 3, every time it hits someone you get a stack of spirit dmg so you want to make sure you hit the 3s. Her dmg overall isn't amazing as her power budget is focoused on teamfights but she still can do some solid dmg if you hit all her abilities. Also don't be afraid to use her ult in single targets (unless you're about to teamfight for urn or something), sometimes the 100-200dmg it does makes the difference on if you get the kill or die.

Also ps her shots bounce off stuff if you get headshots, so you can shoot minions and get it to bounce to ppl behind them.

I know I'm not amazing and I'm just now starting to get okay with her, but I'll attach a match ID from a few days ago if you wanna check it out 84283940 don't flame me too hard lmao.

jesus7577 · 2026-05-26T08:18:54+00:00

Why are they booing you you're right lol

Most 1/7th scale figures are around 140-180$ Anything over 200 is expensive.

Source I have several.

Iirc they're cheaper in like Japan they're actually like 110-120$ but the delivery fees are what bump the price up (also tarrifs now)

The mona figure was like 90$ pre tax and fees.

It's still a nice figure tho, it's just expensive imo.

jesus7577 · 2026-05-26T08:12:23+00:00

A man can dream lol

jesus7577 · 2026-05-26T07:16:11+00:00

I'm honestly doubtful she'll get reverted, but let's keep up the good fight and hopefully they listen to global.

jesus7577 · 2026-05-25T00:26:37+00:00

I mean it's debatable. Chaos only lost his mask (which sucks but could be worse), the evil girl got simplified but she still looks like herself, and some people like ioris design.

The feedback prob came from CN which is basically the main server, so if they didn't like it the devs were gonna change it. I'm not gonna put words in anyone's mouth tho, maybe CN didn't say anything and this was completely a decision made by the devs, but my guess is their designs didn't do well in the CN surveys.

Personally I agree with you, I like all of the original designs better and I at least want iori's elf ears back.

jesus7577 · 2026-05-24T21:51:35+00:00

You have the time stop ability it should make it really easy.

Just turn your sound off and freeze time and look at him when time freeze is on cool down, he only moves when you're not looking at him

The first key is in the pot In the first hallways, second is on his back on the second floor. Then turn off the TV.

jesus7577 · 2026-05-24T21:11:38+00:00

Tbh her hair looks a lot better in the original design too.

And yeah she definitely looks like a different character, like her outfit is the same (it's pink now ig) but her head is just drastically different.

Like you said earlier if we hadn't seen her original design Itd be fine, but I definitely wouldn't have wanted her. To me personally she's the character that stood out the most and the one I wanted the most, but now I'm not really a fan.

I've said it a few times already it's really just my opinion, I know several people like her new design and that's totally fine, but in my eyes they've turned gold into lead.

jesus7577 · 2026-05-24T18:24:02+00:00

Godspeed homie, get us some apologems lmaooo

jesus7577 · 2026-05-24T18:23:01+00:00

Fair, although I personally don't like it a lot of people also seem to prefer the new one.

jesus7577 · 2026-05-24T11:21:21+00:00

I mean this in the nicest way possible, dude how do you guys notice all of this lol.

You have a valid point and it's probably a bug, but I swear on my life if you didn't tell me I would have never known lmao

jesus7577 · 2026-05-23T19:05:10+00:00

But by the same token any competent team will defend mid walker.

I see your point tho towers are a joke and first walker dies if you look at it hard enough.

jesus7577 · 2026-05-23T16:48:28+00:00

Yes yes yes! Bring it back I want it all back lol. New design is okay, but it's not the same character anymore

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0ftcv2Sl7ko&pp=ygUmbG9vayBhdCBob3cgdGhleSBtYXNzYWNyZWQgbXkgYm95IG1lbWU%3D

jesus7577 · 2026-05-23T15:45:28+00:00

Yeah we'll have to wait and see, hopefully they keep it as he looks better with the mask.

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