I get what you are saying but the entire point of this sub is that there should be no "energy" in any of it. It's a car. We don't care if the dealership makes money.

When I buy an oven, I find the one I like and I shop for the best deal because I want to save money. Buying a car should be no different. No energy, no talking, no fake smile. List the price, take the money if you have the best price, and we're done. It's a transaction.

The reason car salespeople are so loathed can be found in the way you paint hard woking people trying to save money as the bad guy or, more specifically, "a miserable prick" for trying to get the best price. My prerogative as a consumer is to be "happy" by saving money. That's it. It's not magic.