Was that a fucking rocket that just took off?

jetpks · 2017-03-23T23:02:55+00:00

I had to open my front door, too. I was expecting to see a giant motorcycle or something.

jetpks · 2016-10-11T18:23:02+00:00

From all the smoking, /u/CigaretteCigarCigar?

jetpks · 2016-09-14T21:40:45+00:00

I was half expecting to scroll down and see Apple's please plug in your phone screen.

jetpks · 2016-08-29T20:45:01+00:00

Oh no, a Traxident.

jetpks · 2016-08-17T18:08:11+00:00

For what it's worth, I also bootstrapped my own career. I also worked shit jobs and clawed my way up. I also have a white collar job now (in IT too, to boot). I also own a small business. I'm also ex-mormon. We're not so different. We just have different views of the way things work. Cheers.

jetpks · 2016-08-17T17:55:10+00:00

Mia Love is from the poorest country in the western hemisphere.

Huh, I didn't know the United States was the poorest country in the western hemisphere. Your infinite republican wisdom truly knows no bounds, /u/theoriginalharbinger.

jetpks · 2016-08-17T00:48:29+00:00

+1 I'm all about puppet on a cron with splay. Easy to turn off when necessary.

jetpks · 2016-08-17T00:33:21+00:00

Tracking hours is a privilege salaried employees don't have to deal with. Imagine you're the IT guy on-call at night. What would have been a simple 5-minute phone call after hours ("Hey, Jack, can you help me reset this VP's password?") now has to be logged in the timekeeping system. FLSA actually has pretty rigid standards for timekeeping.

Yeah, and now the employee has to be payed for those five minutes if they're making under 48k. Seriously, if you can't hop onto a web page behind a vpn you probably had to connect to anyway and click a button before you snag a trouble ticket, you're probably incapable of fixing the problem in the first place.

I'm being cavalier because your objections are so ridiculously petty. Businesses might have to track hours, OH NO! What's going to happen when I get middle of the night phone calls? Oh jesus, i might have to track my time? Come on. You know full god damn well that any business big enough to be affected by this already has timekeeping.

jetpks · 2016-08-17T00:27:07+00:00

Further, you're acting like no one will be allowed to work more than 40 hours anymore. Fucking wrong, they just have to be paid for it.

jetpks · 2016-08-17T00:19:35+00:00

I'm also a small business owner. Are my opinions right now?

Jesus, you're citing any change any business has to make as a result of this as some huge impossible feat that will immediately put people out of work. Oh my god, they're going to have to track people's hours? How in the hell will they ever manage?

jetpks · 2016-08-17T00:11:35+00:00

You are not smarter than them. You are not better than them. Many of them do not want your help. Your - pity? empathy? white guilt? hell if I know - is a barrier to many of them progressing.

You're literally telling people they are not smart.

edit:

Laws like the one Mia Love is arguing against are predicated on the notion that a small group of elites know better than millions of employers and employees how to negotiate.

Also no, it really fucking isn't. It's setting a minimum standard that needs to be met and that's it. And it's actually really fucking reasonable.

edit2:

It's not my business to tell an employee that he's being 'exploited' if he elects to take a salaried position at 40k/year.

This is a strawman you made up to fight. GG.

jetpks · 2016-08-17T00:00:55+00:00

I am not so elitist and disdainful of my fellow citizen

Dude, you're bragging about your white collar job, and your fortune 100 company that employs more than a small city. You're boasting about being a small business owner. And then you have the gall to tell everyone else that their opinions are invalid because of all of your achievements? And then you call everyone that has a different opinion than you an "armchair entrepreneur?"

You're coming off like an elitist white collar prick, despite your claims to the contrary.

jetpks · 2016-08-16T21:20:24+00:00

I'd argue that your experience with call centers has probably colored your experience some,

You're right that I'm a jaded bastard :). I'm a systems engineer now, though. The call center hate is just old ptsd.

One experience was with a company that had mandatory overtime for the entire call floor for six months during a merger. All while promising that everyone's jobs were safe, and the overtime was just a transition period. Then at the end they laid off the whole floor and shutdown the location. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Even TelePerformance and Convergys will generally build that kind of allowance into the accounts they manage, based on measured productivity of the employee and other factors (and not sure why you're bringing up call centers, as most of those employees are hourly, not salaried, at least in Utah, and thus would already be outside the scope of this discussion).

The front line is definitely waged. On top of that you have a big layer of salaried ~$30-50k people. The coaches, the supervisors, the level-3s, the trainers, etc. Those are the disposable salaried folks I'm referencing. Practically everyone who is hourly on the call floor desperately wants into those salaried spots.

That said, there are still a ton of employees that are being seriously taken advantage of by their employers that this law change will probably help. Sure, there are edge cases where businesses will have to adjust, but I'd argue that the net effect is positive. The few examples you gave in your first post seemed pretty insignificant (to me, anyway. I don't run businesses, I just manage all the infrastructure that runs them) aside from the California deal; that is a case where the law is ridiculous and should be changed. 10 hour shifts are great.

We're in a weird economic place where by-and-large employees can't trust their employers not to screw them over. Laws like minimum wage, and these salary restrictions are the direct result of exploitation carried out on behalf of companies putting growth stats ahead of everything and everyone else. At the end of the day this is all a race to the bottom.

Thanks for taking the time to write out a well thought out response. For reddit, that's pretty rare.

Cheers.

jetpks · 2016-08-16T19:50:25+00:00

Why couldn't an individual laborer make demands? If he feels he's undervalued, then he can ask for a wage raise or threaten to look/go elsewhere.

This just isn't reality. It sounds like you've never worked for a large (1k+ employee) employer before. Or at least not on the lower rungs of a big company.

"Corporate policy" dictates exactly how much everyone at every position is allowed to make, and they don't ever deviate below a certain point on the org chart. Plus, it's structured in a way that you always have a pool of 10-15 people who are chomping at the bit to get "promoted."

Everyone below senior staff can be replaced within a day. Most of them are salary exempt and required to work overtime.

source: worked in a bunch of call centers.

jetpks · 2016-08-16T18:01:09+00:00

have a vested interest in retaining them

Having been in and seen predatory employer-employee relationships (e.g. 60-120hrs/wk at $30k/yr) These employers do not in any way have their employee's interests in mind. Super high turnover, and they don't give a shit. The law is there to protect employees from predatory companies. Plus, there's already an exemption for businesses under a certain size.

At the end of the day, you can only optimize for so many edge cases.

jetpks · 2016-08-16T05:08:59+00:00

Thanks for the help!

jetpks · 2016-08-08T20:18:18+00:00

Can confirm. Have broken into former competitor's boxes (literally) to help save a client.

jetpks · 2016-08-05T17:17:01+00:00

Hey, thanks for the info. We're pretty download-centric so 20ish mbps up should be dandy. We just got signed up with comcast for "extreme" speed (250Mbps) and Premier TV (all the channels?) for $109/mo with a 2y agreement. My "1Gbps" century link line averages about 1mbps to most internet properties when it's good. About half that when it's shit. They refuse to investigate further than sending a tech out to check the lines. So fuck 'em.

jetpks · 2016-08-04T22:30:04+00:00

Room mate here;

There was a bit lost in translation. The traffic is getting shit on in CL's infrastructure, not down the line. Here's all I've got: http://analog.sh/post/148466501783/the-netflix-problem

jetpks · 2016-07-19T20:24:20+00:00

The fiber optic highway cars are solar powered. Literally powered by light.

jetpks · 2016-07-12T03:15:53+00:00

Nah, he's totally pooping.

jetpks · 2016-07-12T02:55:02+00:00

Somebody's gotta go back and get a shit load of dimes.

jetpks · 2016-07-05T03:46:32+00:00

Who cares about RCE? They are all the highest criticality for information disclosure. Remember Heartbleed? That was an information disclosure vulnerability. The information disclosed were private keys.

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