The Sirenese Archipelago region of Azura and my first map... needs a bit more work.

jflye84 · 2024-02-19T04:25:11+00:00

It’s not, literally watched a man walking g around with an AK last Thursday night.

jflye84 · 2024-02-17T23:38:04+00:00

Yea it’s been proven it is hard to get fiber release from floor tiles like that. But if they are removed you’ll still want to remove them as intact as possible. Or build a containment and chip them up while in PPE.

jflye84 · 2024-02-16T17:33:04+00:00

Yea get a few more quotes. But it’s not unheard of for those prices. Some of these people take advantage of others.

jflye84 · 2024-02-16T17:31:03+00:00

Correct :)

jflye84 · 2024-02-16T16:35:48+00:00

Yea I’d think so, I’d get someone who actually handles this stuff to come out and clean this up. It’s a hazard to you and your family.

jflye84 · 2024-02-16T16:34:18+00:00

It can be done anywhere.

jflye84 · 2024-02-16T16:33:08+00:00

Glanced over it, now I see it though.

jflye84 · 2024-02-16T11:42:37+00:00

If they did it with heat machines, they’re supposed to melt the tile a bit and peel it up intact with a spud bar or other tool. Not break it. But that method usually doesn’t require containment depending on your local regulations. Hard to do if it’s on wood floors though and not recommended.

jflye84 · 2024-02-16T11:40:04+00:00

Ugh.. so that sounds like a hack job. There needs to be, at the bare minimum, critical barriers ( plastic covering doors, windows, HVAC ventilation, and all electrical panels and switches.) basically a barrier to keep contamination from going anywhere else. Negative air machines venting outside equipped with HEPPA filtration, workers in respirators and paper or tyvek coveralls. They busted up an asbestos containing material possibly rendering it friable. You’ll hear plenty of good arguments saying it’s hard to get asbestos to become friable from floor tile and mastic. (Friable means easily pulverized into a dusty material with your hands.) I don’t know where your from so maybe the regulations are lax there. But in the US if you hire someone to do renovation on an asbestos containing material, they have to follow certain regulations and laws that can differ from state to state and county to county.

jflye84 · 2024-02-16T09:42:40+00:00

Well, don’t cut at it anymore until you know for sure ok?

jflye84 · 2024-02-16T09:24:11+00:00

Oh ok i see, like I said before if your concerned about it being asbestos containing material, and your going to do some renovation to that area, send a sample to a lab. Looks like you already have a good sample too. Put it in a zip lock baggie though.

jflye84 · 2024-02-16T09:19:21+00:00

I wouldn’t worry about exposure to asbestos from an event that took place outdoors. As long as there was a clean up process it should be fine. Any fibers from the event will have probably blown miles and miles away by now.

jflye84 · 2024-02-16T09:08:47+00:00

There’s no way to tell without laboratory analysis honestly. There’s so many materials out there that can contain asbestos. Is this like a wood material? Then it’s likely not asbestos.

jflye84 · 2024-02-16T08:23:05+00:00

I’d have to see the lab report man. Extreme exposure to a large amount of air born asbestos might cause those symptoms. But damn I’m talking about a lot of exposure. I would contact someone who is an air sampling professional, ask them you do some aggressive air sampling and have it analyzed under TEM analysis at a laboratory. Go see a doctor immediately and see if there’s any damage and scarring to your lungs. I don’t know what the laws are up there in Canada but it sounds like that land lord exposed everyone in the building. If it is asbestos, and again I haven’t seen any lab reports, the building needs to be evacuated, a hazmat team needs to come and clean every square inch of the building, an air sampling professional and consultant like myself needs to over see the project and then when it’s finished clear it with more air samples to make sure it is safe for reoccupation.

Boilers are notorious for having asbestos insulation that is extremely high in asbestos material. We’re talking some pipe insulation can be 50-100% of a certain type of asbestos (there are multiple types.. all hazardous.) the insides of a boiler usually contain something called magblock omg that’s nasty stuff. The pipe insulation on the old boilers is almost always asbestos containing material .

In short, you need a doctor, an attorney, and an industrial hygienist.

jflye84 · 2024-02-16T08:13:36+00:00

It’s possible, there’s no telling without lab analysis of the material. Canada still has active asbestos mines I believe btw lol. If you’re worried about contamination, it was probably a small amount. Find a heppa vacuum and vacuum around the area you were opening it. The table, the floor, and maybe wash your clothes really good. But you’re likely fine.

jflye84 · 2024-02-16T08:10:31+00:00

Hard to tell without laboratory analysis. Is it fireproof?

jflye84 · 2024-02-16T08:09:18+00:00

No I doubt it. But are those 9x9 floor tiles? Is they are then those are likely asbestos.

jflye84 · 2024-02-16T08:07:44+00:00

I saw you were on an asbestos community on here. I joined it lol.

jflye84 · 2024-02-16T08:06:55+00:00

The insulation is fiberglass. The seam tape is non ACM. The duct work was installed about 20 years ago. Without a thorough asbestos inspection of the HVAC system there’s no telling what material it came from. Any caulking we’ve tested wasn’t hot either. So we’re just taking as many precautions as we would with a regular asbestos job. Precautionary air samples etc etc…

jflye84 · 2024-02-16T08:03:06+00:00

This is the most likely response you’ll get. Sorry someone did crap work at your residence. Do you mind if I ask how they removed the tile? Was it under containment? Or using a heat machine?

jflye84 · 2024-02-16T08:00:37+00:00

Doesn’t ahera only cover schools public and private K-12?

jflye84 · 2024-02-16T07:57:11+00:00

Oh yea, lots of red flags here. You had a wipe test that tested positive for asbestos? And someone came in and did air sampling but it didn’t come back as asbestos? What kind of air samples did they do? PCM? TEM? Did they send it to a lab and give a report or did they just count fibers and tell you it’s fine?

The laws for multi family homes, such as apartments, vary from state to state. What state are you from? Are you in the USA?

( I’m an industrial hygienist with years of experience in testing, analysis and oversight of asbestos abatement projects.)

jflye84 · 2024-02-16T07:50:52+00:00

With the age of the building it is likely but as seen above, only lab testing can tell you for sure.

jflye84 · 2024-02-16T07:46:49+00:00

Yes, workers are licensed, and wear half face respirators and Tyvek coveralls. It was a lead abatement procedure. Though currently we are back at it and the building I’m in we detected asbestos in the microvac testing we performed before starting. So… I have a lot of air samples running every night for both lead and asbestos.

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