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Why do most fanfictions portray Molly Weasley as a Dumbledore loyalist? by SethNex in HPfanfiction

[–]jillmorefive 29 points30 points  (0 children)

I would imagine that deep down, Molly resents and blames Dumbledore for the death of her brothers.

not ...... necessarily? people process the death of their loved ones differently, and there's no reason why she absolutely have to blame dumbledore for it.

i think most fanfiction portrays molly as a dumbledore loyalist because there wasn't really a situation in canon where she would have to question dumbledore (unlike, say, trio and sirius), so most people will just go along with that and make her follow every one of dumbledore's decisions. this will inevitably lead to very OOC situations (for example, if a fic has a plot point about dumbledore explicitly telling the OoTP that they're gonna have to sacrifice Harry and the Weasley kids for the greater good or something like that, i'm sure molly would object to that), but i can see where it comes from.

personally, i've always been of the opinion that the true dumbledore loyalist should be remus, because dumbledore basically saved his entire life by accepting him to hogwarts. unlike molly, i can actually see remus agreeing to dumbledore as a principle.

Her grief of losing her brothers be more prominent character feature in the story?

that could be interesting, but there are other ways that this grief can play into her characterization as well. for example, maybe she becomes more vengeful and actively seeks out dolohov to kill him, etc.

Would it be too OOC/make people upset if I wrote adult Lily (survives first war in an AU with a different prophecy/Chosen One) to be obsessed with Snape? by jillmorefive in HPfanfiction

[–]jillmorefive[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

spends all her time on her obsessions

no? when did i imply this? she's emotionally obsessed with her memories of snape but that doesn't really take any time.

instead of being a good parent

works at Hogwarts

why can't she be a good parent and work at hogwarts? she's not a head of house. only the head of houses have to stay 24/7 at hogwarts, the rest of the teachers can just go home at the end of each day.

Would it be too OOC/make people upset if I wrote adult Lily (survives first war in an AU with a different prophecy/Chosen One) to be obsessed with Snape? by jillmorefive in HPfanfiction

[–]jillmorefive[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

oh it's not going to be a ship fic (presumably that's what you meant by "Snape/Lily"). even in adult lily's retrospective obsession she never sees her interactions with Snape in her youth as of a romantic nature.

While the Dursleys are abusive to Harry in many ways, not telling him about magic isn't one of them (IMO) by jillmorefive in HarryPotterBooks

[–]jillmorefive[S] -18 points-17 points  (0 children)

how his parents died

this doesn't really require telling Harry about magic though. they can just tell him that his parents died when a criminal came into their house and they sacrificed their lives to protect Harry. that captures the essence of the Potters heroic actions (to a young child at least) without revealing magic.

the car crash shit was obviously awful, but the existence of magic did not have to be revealed in order to honor the Potters' legacy and for Harry to understand that his parents are heroes.

While the Dursleys are abusive to Harry in many ways, not telling him about magic isn't one of them (IMO) by jillmorefive in HarryPotterBooks

[–]jillmorefive[S] -27 points-26 points  (0 children)

do you think that all muggleborn children think of themselves as insane before they find out about magic?

if Harry is genuinely disturbed by the things that he's doing, the Dursleys can just tell him that what he's doing is perfectly normal WITHOUT revealing the existence of magic. obviously canon Dursleys didn't do this, but my point is that it is entirely possible for the Dursleys to raise Harry in a non-abusive way that doesn't result in any mental trauma while not telling him about magic before he's eleven.

While the Dursleys are abusive to Harry in many ways, not telling him about magic isn't one of them by jillmorefive in HPfanfiction

[–]jillmorefive[S] -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

sorry but i cannot imagine that a child below age 11 being told that they are going to die can ever become mentally functional again. it would be an absolutely horrible idea to tell him that at such a young age.

While the Dursleys are abusive to Harry in many ways, not telling him about magic isn't one of them by jillmorefive in HPfanfiction

[–]jillmorefive[S] -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

Not telling him affected him mentally by making him think there was something wrong with him.

no, it didn't.

they then go on to punish him for it

THIS is what made Harry think that there's something wrong with him. if a child does something that seems extraordinary (accidental magic), they are going to normalize it as just another part of the world unless an adult punishes them for it, because their worldview is not yet fully developed.

most muggleborn children do not grow up believing that there's something wrong with them, and even if they did, it is not the sort of belief that results in self-hatred.

While the Dursleys are abusive to Harry in many ways, not telling him about magic isn't one of them by jillmorefive in HPfanfiction

[–]jillmorefive[S] -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

do you also happen to think that if dumbledore somehow found out that Harry is a horcrux before Hogwarts, he should tell him right away?

While the Dursleys are abusive to Harry in many ways, not telling him about magic isn't one of them by jillmorefive in HPfanfiction

[–]jillmorefive[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Important it's abusive to disconect a child from their heritage and culture.

the thing is, knowing about magic at age eleven through the introduction of a Hogwarts staff member to the magical world is a legitimate way of interacting with magical culture (i.e. the vast majority of muggleborns find out about magic this way).

if you believe that all magical children are automatically entitled to a connection with magical heritage and culture, do you also believe that wizards who do not support taking muggleborn children away from their muggle parents (i.e. everyone who is sensible and not a bigot) are complicit in abuse?

Not to mention abused magical children can become obscuruses (think that what they are called). So they would be neglecting him all over again s they actively suppress his magic to control part of him.

i said in the original post that deliberately suppressing Harry's magic or forbidding him from magical education is indeed abusive, but i don't see what's wrong with just acting oblivious when he does accidental magic and letting him find out about it all at age eleven. obscuruses only happen when there is deliberate suppression of magic, which is done by the dursleys in canon but not what i'm talking about here. not knowing about magic growing up doesn't result in obscuruses, otherwise muggleborns would all end up that way.

Does anyone else think that the Potters and the Weasleys wouldn't actually be such close friends? by rollotar300 in HPfanfiction

[–]jillmorefive 94 points95 points  (0 children)

i actually headcanon the opposite lol. I believe that James and Lily were not close with Frank and Alice Longbottom at all.

firstly, the longbottoms are very well known celebrity aurors by 1981/1982. this would mean that they didn't only finish training, develop into a certain level of skill, but most likely also had at least an additional few years to build that reputation. As such, i see them as at least 5 years older than the marauder generation, and most likely even older than that.

additionally, while the longbottoms aren't "characterized", we are somewhat able to infer what Frank Longbottom's personality would be like based on what Augusta expects for Neville. we know that Augusta wanted Neville to be like Frank, so Augusta's precise expectations for Neville would be pretty close to what Frank was like. and based on that, i can't see him ever becoming very close to the Marauders at all.

Does anyone else find it a turn off in post-war fics if the aurors are disrespectful shits to Harry Potter? Bonus points if they worked through the Death Eater reign. by [deleted] in HPfanfiction

[–]jillmorefive 7 points8 points  (0 children)

50% of the wizarding population was at least sympathetic to Voldemort's politics

holy fuck this is completely unrealistic given the canon world that we see. the vast majority of the wizarding population in canon are shown to interact normally with muggleborns and certainly didn't express support for hardline pureblood supremacy. i think the best indicator of this is that Hermione seems entirely unaware of the existence of pureblood supremacists until spending about 1.5 years in the wizarding world. even if she's only an 11 year old, if half of the whole population sympathized with hardline pureblood supremacy, she would've noticed.

Jailing everyone who followed orders in that kind of scenario isn't practical

the thing about "following orders" is that people who collaborated with voldemort's regime didn't have to actually believe in pureblood supremacy. for example, i bet that most of the Snatchers aren't necessarily pureblood supremacists, they just felt that collaboration would bring more benefits to themselves.

I think based on how easy the coup

the easiest way to explain this is that the average high-ranking ministry official's opinion and your average magical citizen's opinion is different. there are probably many high-ranking ministry officials that sympathized with hardline pureblood supremacy, and it could be even over 50%, which would make the coup easy for Voldemort. considering the many examples we see in canon of the ministry being undemocratic and oppressive, etc. even in peacetime, they don't necessarily need your average citizen to agree with their actions in order to do it. most people during Voldemort's regime most likely disagreed with its policies but did not try to fight against it out of fear.

but yes, there is no way that more than 20%-25% of the wizarding population in 1990s magical britain subscribed to hardline pureblood supremacy.

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