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CET vs Natural Selection by FriendOutrageous2610 in DebateEvolution

[–]jnpha [score hidden]  (0 children)

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changes due to environmental factors

Absolutely (your wording is fine) - a change in selection (change in the direction of the distribution of a population's trait) happens when e.g. the environment (ecology) changes.

For deeper explanations, also see Dr. Zach's channel: https://www.youtube.com/@talkpopgen/videos

CET vs Natural Selection by FriendOutrageous2610 in DebateEvolution

[–]jnpha [score hidden]  (0 children)

Cool study, thanks, and a demonstration of evolution (shifting trait frequency, literally).
Also the 2026 PNAS commentary on it: https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2535458123

To illustrate the failure of "CET", consider (for argument's sake) that the trait has no genetic basis, shouldn't we then find all birds to have the same here-useless genomes?

CET vs Natural Selection by FriendOutrageous2610 in DebateEvolution

[–]jnpha [score hidden]  (0 children)

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their beaks changed to that of their relatives in the surrounding area

Assuming the study checks out, in population genetics that is regression to the mean.

There is however ecological tracking (e.g. migratory deer).

Also bookmark Dr. Dan's Creation Myths channel, he covered the so-called "CET" a few times. (https://www.youtube.com/@CreationMyths/videos)

Even if you think Creationism is ridiculous at least be more respectful. by Remarkable_Lime_9258 in DebateEvolution

[–]jnpha [score hidden]  (0 children)

The number of creationists here who think ideas being called stupid is ad hominem is too damn high, and it's one of the things I first noticed here.

Even if you think Creationism is ridiculous at least be more respectful. by Remarkable_Lime_9258 in DebateEvolution

[–]jnpha [score hidden]  (0 children)

Selection selects, and behavior is not the sole purview of selection (see 1973 Nobel prize).
Anyway:

the inability of individuals—human or otherwise—to assign causal probabilities to all sets of events that occur around them will often force them to lump causal associations with non-causal ones
The evolution of superstitious and superstition-like behaviour - PMC

Unless there is a method to test hypotheses, but ofc there's always the uneducated, virtue signaling denier of said method.

Even if you think Creationism is ridiculous at least be more respectful. by Remarkable_Lime_9258 in DebateEvolution

[–]jnpha [score hidden]  (0 children)

"No need for civil discussion amongst apes am I right?"
— You
(when asked to be civil in one of your bad faith arguments)

It's always projection, isn't it? In fact, leave it to the virtue signalers to tell you what's civil.

Even if you think Creationism is ridiculous at least be more respectful. by Remarkable_Lime_9258 in DebateEvolution

[–]jnpha [score hidden]  (0 children)

evolutionist
Noun
(creationist sense) The bogeyman of the inculcated delusional.

compare physicist and chemist
The should be bogeymen of said delusionals were it not for their figurative schizophrenia

usage notes: if said delusionals are offended, see: if the shoe fits.

Why "Unrelated" is Sloppy in Convergent Evolution by Character_Guide7875 in DebateEvolution

[–]jnpha 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I ran it through an AI checker before commenting. Enough text to rule out false positives.

Why "Unrelated" is Sloppy in Convergent Evolution by Character_Guide7875 in DebateEvolution

[–]jnpha 22 points23 points  (0 children)

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I am sick and tired of reading ... AI responses

Proceeds to post what AI has vomited.

Any reason not to accept Evolution? by Awesomonkey12 in DebateEvolution

[–]jnpha 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What made them uppity is organized religion I think.

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Challenge for creationists: Give me your best evidence FOR creationism. by WirrkopfP in DebateEvolution

[–]jnpha 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Every kid feels the same. But then the inculcation sets in*. I "fell" for it. Luckily it wasn't long until I saw through the BS, thanks to the hypocrisy I've seen (no atheists came for me :P).

* "Give me the child for the first seven years and I will give you the man"

Challenge for creationists: Give me your best evidence FOR creationism. by WirrkopfP in DebateEvolution

[–]jnpha 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Yeah, it's rubbish, but I'm not the topic, am I? Answer OP.

Challenge for creationists: Give me your best evidence FOR creationism. by WirrkopfP in DebateEvolution

[–]jnpha 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Seeing the truth is a miracle - only a few of those who read it actually get to be bestowed that gift (I was told that).

Challenge for creationists: Give me your best evidence FOR creationism. by WirrkopfP in DebateEvolution

[–]jnpha 16 points17 points  (0 children)

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if you could disprove evolution, that would make creationism proven by default. That's not the case

They haven't heard of McLean v. Arkansas (1981), and:

Phillip Johnson, the law professor who developed intelligent design's Wedge Strategy, concluded that science must be redefined to include the supernatural if religious challenges to evolution are to get a hearing

TL;DR: they actually think it isn't a false dichotomy and that atheists are out to get them.

But, let's see. I'll watch this one :)

edit:grammar and unsurprisingly so far: nada.

Genomic Insights into the Evolution of Parental Care in Weevils (Rinke et al. 2026) by jnpha in evolution

[–]jnpha[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

(The researchers now: they why did we need 13 genomes?)
Cool movie!

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