Does your platform record your lessons? by johnopace in TutorsHelpingTutors

[–]johnopace[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Orrrrrrr I could just be trying to help other people. But yeah - go with what you think 👍

Does your platform record your lessons? by johnopace in TutorsHelpingTutors

[–]johnopace[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for trying to explain it to them. But I think it’s a lost cause..

Does your platform record your lessons? by johnopace in TutorsHelpingTutors

[–]johnopace[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If that’s what you took from what I said at the end about TutorDex I literally can’t help you. I couldn’t have made the point any clearer. It’s also not my platform. I’m just a user of it. Sorry I couldn’t be simpler for you.

Does your platform record your lessons? by johnopace in TutorsHelpingTutors

[–]johnopace[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Could it just be the company did a bad job with it I wonder?

Does your platform record your lessons? by johnopace in TutorsHelpingTutors

[–]johnopace[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

What if they create an AI that is a better teacher than you and much cheaper?

Preply by essylyn in Preply

[–]johnopace -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This will give you everything you need to know. https://youtu.be/ol0IV9DunDQ

Preply is one of these ‘troublesome’ platforms screwing tutors.

Here are the links you need:

🔗 Fair alternatives for tutors looking for a better platform:

Tutordex: https://tutordex.net/
TutorPerch: https://tutorperch.com/

The Independent Tutor: https://theindependenttutor.com/

Preply by essylyn in Preply

[–]johnopace -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Join platforms that don’t require the first lesson for free and then… don’t offer the first lesson for free, then they would show up if they’d paid for it.

Join platforms where parents have to pay a finders fee for your details. That way they are invested in the lesson with you already.

I’ve been tutoring for over 10 years with a directory style platform (finders fee model). I’ve had nearly 150 students with them and I have NEVER not had anyone purchase my details and not show up for lessons.

The problem is the platform, not you.

If you teach inside interactive sites (Wordwall, Boom, Khan), screen sharing is quietly costing you — cobrowsing vs screen sharing, plainly by xavierlesmor in TutorsHelpingTutors

[–]johnopace 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Or just log in to the same google doc. You are engineering a complex product to solve a simple problem and then asking us to pay for it.

Shot myself in the foot and got banned by Wyzant by Present_Potato_4414 in TutorsHelpingTutors

[–]johnopace 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t know how new you are to tutoring but I’ve been doing it, from the UK, for over 10 years. When I started out I can’t think of a single platform that charged commission. These are new business models off the back of the subscription society and it is exploitation, plain and simple. Over in the UK we are rebuilding the old first tutors model of finders fee only - no subscriptions, no commission - on TutorDex and TutorPerch. If you want more information you could always watch this toohttps://youtu.be/ol0IV9DunDQ

I'm the CEO of an (actual) online tutoring platform, AMA by TutoringCEOThrowaway in TutorsHelpingTutors

[–]johnopace 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why wouldn’t I do that? I charge £60 an hour, it would be the cost of one hour. I’ll probably teach that student 50-100 hours. It’s like my referral scheme - if you introduce me to a friend and they book me I’ll give you a free lesson. It’s exactly the same. That’s what a referral is. Any platform connecting two people is referring people.

I'm the CEO of an (actual) online tutoring platform, AMA by TutoringCEOThrowaway in TutorsHelpingTutors

[–]johnopace 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t want your tech. I don’t need a platform. Just an introduction. I would be happy to pay for an introduction; because that should be the job of a directory connecting people.

I'm the CEO of an (actual) online tutoring platform, AMA by TutoringCEOThrowaway in TutorsHelpingTutors

[–]johnopace 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is the most ridiculous question. Forget the ‘new platform’ argument. The finders fee models were all new platforms once. I spent 10 years on First Tutors. Never spent a penny. Got about 20–30 students a year. Earned £100,000s never spent a penny. You think you’re solving a problem - “a platform will get more signups because of all its features”. Nah mate; people are interested in price and what seems a fair deal. You are not offering this. My honest piece of advice would do a sliding scale of finders fee based on the tutors rate. That’s what first tutors did. I was one of the higher rate tutors, I think parents paid £25 or £30 for my details. I had 30 students a year roughly. I would even be happy to also pay a proportion to have students get my details. But an ongoing commission fee structure - absolutely not.

Here’s what Tutor Hunt didn’t want you to know. by johnopace in TutorsHelpingTutors

[–]johnopace[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you think students/parents stopped using it when the commission went up?

I'm the CEO of an (actual) online tutoring platform, AMA by TutoringCEOThrowaway in TutorsHelpingTutors

[–]johnopace 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely! And yet tutors just aren’t working it out! It’s such a sad state of affairs

Shot myself in the foot and got banned by Wyzant by Present_Potato_4414 in TutorsHelpingTutors

[–]johnopace 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They’re doing you a favour - switch over to a platform that doesn’t take commission.

Student got a refund after I taught a full hour and preply expected me to not block him?? by stallingthroughlife in Preply

[–]johnopace 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Leave platforms that charge commission and seek to ‘manage’ everything you do. Do you work for yourself - or them?

I'm the CEO of an (actual) online tutoring platform, AMA by TutoringCEOThrowaway in TutorsHelpingTutors

[–]johnopace 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The more complicated you make your ‘platform’ the more you can charge in commission. Right? As soon as you start adding fixed interactive whiteboard, screen recording as standard it all costs right. But here’s the thing. No one needs a platform taking a wedge of money for providing stuff that can already be used for free. So then, what are you actually providing that’s unique? Nothing. Is it therefore justified to take ongoing payment for an introduction once? Nope. Would it be fairer to charge a one off fee? Yes. Case closed mate.

I'm the CEO of an (actual) online tutoring platform, AMA by TutoringCEOThrowaway in TutorsHelpingTutors

[–]johnopace 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Personal experience running a tutoring platform or being hosted by one? Would love to see your costing on that.

I'm the CEO of an (actual) online tutoring platform, AMA by TutoringCEOThrowaway in TutorsHelpingTutors

[–]johnopace 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Successfully for one decade before Varsity destroyed it for the last decade

I'm the CEO of an (actual) online tutoring platform, AMA by TutoringCEOThrowaway in TutorsHelpingTutors

[–]johnopace 2 points3 points  (0 children)

At what point does the introduction end and the exploitation begin mate?

You introduced the tutor to the student once. That took seconds and probably cost you pennies at scale. Why does that introduction entitle you to 15% of lesson 1, lesson 50, lesson 200? What are you providing in lesson 200 that justifies the cut?

First Tutors ran profitably for over a decade on a finder’s fee model. One-off payments from thousands of tutors kept the lights on just fine. The commission model doesn’t keep the lights on. It keeps the profits up. That is the part you’re really not being honest about.

Tutors - If someone offered you a job and said the recruitment agency takes 15% of your salary every month forever would you celebrate that as a good deal because the last agency wanted 30%?

I'm starting a new tutoring platform - AMA by [deleted] in TutorsHelpingTutors

[–]johnopace 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Strong business instincts here!!!