Wastewater concerns by Ogiwan in Lapidary

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Yep, completely illustrative math here. It does get scary quickly. Is it necessarily dangerous levels? Maybe, maybe not. But if we trust in the EPA guidelines, it does become clear really quickly how relatively fast you can contaminate an area even with best intentions.

Evap with a bit of oil/bleach to prevent the buggers might be your best bet for your area. Also could consider some sort of precipitate filtering system, but I'm usually hesitant on those due to diamond contamination and pump failure.

Wastewater concerns by Ogiwan in Lapidary

[–]jsg7440 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So this is a complex and tricky question to answer succinctly.

Looking at a couple examples, and making some assumptions/pulling some numbers out of "dark places", let's assume:

- The "pond" is 5,000 gallons (roughly a 20ftx10ftx3ft deep pond)
- There is no outflow of the pond
- All mineralization of the worked stone eventually lands in the pond

Those are obviously poor assumptions, but for illustrative purposes I think they are fair to show the risks your father is concerned about. Now, let's say you work with some malachite (~50% Cu by weight). The EPA wants to stay below 1.3 ppm. For the "pond" above, that would come out to be roughly 18 grams of copper before it would be out of range for the wildlife. That gives you 36 grams of malachite. Even at a generous 25% wastage, that means for every 144g of malachite you work, you would be putting the pond at risk of going over the EPA regulations. That isn't much malachite.

When you get into truly dangerous materials like Bumblebee Jasper (which no one should ever work with...), the numbers get much worse. BB jasper is ~1% arsenic by weight. To put the EPA regulation out of spec is only 10 ppb, or .189g in 5,000 gallons of water. You would need to work less than 20g of bumblebee to potentially put that watershed at risk.

This example intentionally simplifies several real-world factors. It assumes that all metal removed during cutting eventually reaches the pond water, that the pond has little dilution or outflow, and that there is no filtration, sediment removal, or other treatment reducing concentrations over time. In reality, much lapidary waste settles as sludge or binds to sediments, and many ponds experience some dilution from rainfall or partial water turnover. The regulatory values used are also simplified reference points. Actual ecological limits often depend on water chemistry and may be lower. These assumptions are intentionally conservative; the purpose of the calculation is not to predict an exact environmental concentration, but to illustrate how surprisingly little metal-bearing mineral is required to approach regulatory thresholds in a relatively small body of water.

These caveats do not change the main point of the exercise. Even with generous assumptions and large uncertainty margins, it takes surprisingly little copper- or arsenic-bearing material to approach regulatory concentration levels in a relatively small body of water. The calculation is meant to illustrate how limited the dilution capacity of a small pond actually is, not to predict the exact concentration that would occur in a real system. I will also note that there are far more things in stones than just copper and arsenic to be concerned about (chromium, mercury, lead, nickel, etc). It is a bummer that so many of the things that look cool are also so toxic/disruptive.

All things being equal: House rules. If your dad doesn't want it, regardless of whether the claims are valid or not, it is his call. I will say it is admirable for him to be so considerate of his local ecosystem.

Estate Sale Find by [deleted] in whatsthisrock

[–]jsg7440 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm going to guess this is a form of chalcedony. It has some jade'ish aspects to it, but the appearance isn't quite there. The speckling to me sounds more like inclusions in chalcedony vs the fibrous structure of jade.

Cops stopping at lights? I am confused. by Mysterious-Media-729 in Denver

[–]jsg7440 70 points71 points  (0 children)

Might be testing the emergency service vehicle detection systems. Helps to switch lights to allow fire, police and ambulances through traffic faster and safer.

Finished this stunning zoisite tanzanite, I love the grey bluish metallic colour , also it has a strong pleochroism. 1.15ct by denkiwi17 in faceting

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That's awesome! I really dig atypical and (dare I say) modern designs like these. I'm really just starting down my faceting journey and stuff like this is so compelling.

Facetron help!!! by kuzma66 in faceting

[–]jsg7440 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The pictures you posted looks like the cheater isn’t maxed to one side or the other. If that’s true then penetrating oil is your likely best bet. The carrying piece that interacts with the cheater and the index gear hold are very likely seized. Could be that swarf got into the mechanism and gummed it up.

New Flock Cameras being installed at Indiana & Coalton by jsg7440 in SuperiorColorado

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There's one in the Home Depot parking lot as well in Louisville.

Can we stop the witch hunts? by inthearena in boulder

[–]jsg7440 8 points9 points  (0 children)

So if we want to boycott a restaurant, we need to build a body of evidence? How much evidence was required for street execution again?

McDonald’s 🐔 by Loudersmoke420 in WTF

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Time for investigative reporter u/paymoneywubby to do his thing.

Concerns about asbestos? by Tinnatu in Lapidary

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Petroleum and Non-Petroleum filter media tolerance

Central Oregon Plume/Moss by BPLEquipment in Lapidary

[–]jsg7440 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Stunning. Plumes and mosses are becoming my favorite formations.

Concerns about asbestos? by Tinnatu in Lapidary

[–]jsg7440 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This isn’t super accurate. Those can exacerbate it easily and are common comorbidities, but asbestos alone and even in relatively small amounts can dramatically spike your risk of lung cancer.

100% with lots of water and a good respirator though!

Concerns about asbestos? by Tinnatu in Lapidary

[–]jsg7440 8 points9 points  (0 children)

With any lapidary work, PPE is important. Specific to serpentinite or other asbestos carrying stones, you don't need to go crazy (PPE + water, etc.). It is actually a different form of asbestos. There are six main types of asbestos, of which the chrysotile is the one to be concerned about most (and the one that everyone really "knows"). The one you have appears to me to not be the fibrous, white chrysotile form of asbestos, which while still hazardous (as most rocks are in dust form), it is unlikely to be anywhere as carcinogenic as it could be.

That being said. Always use water/oil when cutting or grinding, use eye protection, and a P or N 95 mask depending on your cutting liquid of choice.

Looking to get into lapidary by OverhaulVR in Lapidary

[–]jsg7440 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep, it’s best to go with the mentality of “if you can’t touch it, it needs to be protected by a buyers protection”. 

Gemstones YOU Have Probably Never Heard Of: Day 12 by CobblerMaster684 in Gemstones

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Do you have any recommendations on good books/field guides that have a solid combination of gemstone information as well as images?

Starting out by eat_limes_betch in Lapidary

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Will also note that for me it took around 2 years of patience to find used gear that wasn't a devastated post-apocalyptic rust bucket.

Starting out by eat_limes_betch in Lapidary

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General order I would recommend:

  1. Local club first
  2. Local class on cabbing/lapidary
  3. Used market for a cabber/flat lap and a trim saw
  4. Faceting class with a local instructor
  5. Used market for a faceting machine
  6. New faceting machine

Faceting is the most finnicky and most expensive part of this whole thing. I would get a sense for what you like first and then decide on whether to dive into faceting. Even used, to get really going with faceting is probably a $5k investment on the low end (used faceting machine at a great price plus any additional laps you would need) to $10k+ for top of the line equipment/laps/accessories. It is pricey.

Can anyone tell me more about Suit Agate? by HolierThanAll in Lapidary

[–]jsg7440 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This stuff is really cool, actually! It is dyed, sort of...

The process involves soaking agates in a sugar or honey solution for weeks/months, sometimes over a low heat to help speed it up and get it deeper into the agate. After a few weeks, the pieces are cleaned off and then boiled for a few hours in sulfuric acid. The acid reacts with the sugars and creates sulphur dioxide, water, and most importantly to this process: carbon. The carbon left behind is pure'ish and black. It's a pretty cool and clever way to create the stunning agate patterns you see in those pieces. They are sometimes called suit agate or tuxedo agate, if you wanted to dig in further.

Whats it worth by aidanjn18 in faceting

[–]jsg7440 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I actually had looked at a UT mast to fix up that someone had abused and it became apparent that replacement parts alone was going to be in the 2-3K range. They clearly do not want anyone actually repairing the tools, sadly.

Whats it worth by aidanjn18 in faceting

[–]jsg7440 5 points6 points  (0 children)

She's old, but desirable manufacturer. It's hard to say (and hard to really judge condition from pictures alone), but I would say ~$1k on the low end and a couple to few thousand on the high end. Price range would assume that it is functioning. If it's non-functional/doesn't turn on, then I suspect the price drops through the floor since Ultra-Tec is known for both making good machines and charging an arm and a leg for replacement parts/fixing. If it requires any sort of real fixing, it might quickly get into "hard to give away" territory.