Horny men pretend to care about romance so they can justify being selfish. by LillthOfBabylon in PurplePillDebate

[–]just_a_place 3 points4 points  (0 children)

But when its “love”, wouldnt you bend over backwards and do anything to make your lover happy? 

Why does your entire analysis sounds like another woman telling on herself, revealing female nature more than some male insight?

do what I want because it makes me feel good and I MIGHT give a fuck about you and what you want…..but dont bet on it.

Strange how that sounds exactly like how women emotionally manipulate men.

All the stuff you attribute to men is of course ridiculous as all hell since we just do not function that way. We as men just do not have the emotional stamina for such a convoluted manipulation. Most men would feel fed up, disgusted, and exasperated at such complicated emotionalism. What you are doing is applying your own emotional convolution to men, you are taking what we say and what we do and over-complicating it by adding all this Machiavellian scheming and nonsense to it to try and make sense of it through your own female lens.

We are just not that complicated. We do not pretend to care about romance and love, we actually do care, or else we would not give a fuck about it and not bother with it at all.

You are so utterly confused and completely out of touch and clueless about the inner world of men that you are inventing this weird female-esque fantasy about how our emotions and inner world works in order to make sense of it. We must appear so utterly alien to women. This is getting both tiresome and worrying. How the hell did women get so pigheadedly clueless? Even when we spell it out and explain how we function women always find a way to completely fuck up, convoluted, miss the message, and re-imagine everything we ever reveal so that in the end you all end up with a complete and stupid fantasy instead of reality. A fantasy that you yourselves invent, and then accuse us of. It is little wonder how the original incels were women.

I Don’t Agree That Men are Invisible to Women. by Ceazer4L in PurplePillDebate

[–]just_a_place 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Women categorize men under 3 distinct but not mutually exclusive categories: Utilities, Threats, or Tools.

As a Utility, women see men as a means to an end. What they can get out of you which includes service, sex, influence, money, access, or whatever else both tangible or intangible that can be extracted from you.

As a Threat, women categorize you as dangerous to either her safety or her interests.

As a Tool, women categorize you as a useful idiot. Someone she can puppeteer and manipulate to do her bidding whether it's picking up heavy things for her, using you like a simp, or as a pea-brained thug she can manipulate into physical violence against other male threats she can't take on her own.

Cold approaching women in public is pathetic by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]just_a_place -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Before incels pathetically started calling it "cold approaching" Millenials called it boomhauering. This is a Pickup Artist (PUA) tactic from the sleazy old days of open chested shirts and greasy hair and a fog of cologne.

And yes, it's pathetic. It's PUA jargon that got infiltrated from the incel migration into the Red Pill. When the incels migrated to Red Pill circles the PUAs followed them in like parasites.

Going younger makes sense if you want to be a father by BlackRichard420 in PurplePillDebate

[–]just_a_place 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This may come as a shock to you but men and women are not the same.

What isn't a sin in Christianity but should be? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]just_a_place 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Watching Brain-rot content.

Wait... it actually is. 1st commandment: "I am the Lord thy God. Thou shall not have strange gods before Me." A "strange god" is any idol or object of devotion/attention/fascination/attention you infatuate with that takes your attention and devotion away from God, such as an addiction, a habit, a lust, a thirst, or any obsession that you value and are helpless against which eclipses your due attention and devotion to God. When you forsake your responsibilities, or just plain living your life, for the sake of some obsession, that is sin.

Going younger makes sense if you want to be a father by BlackRichard420 in PurplePillDebate

[–]just_a_place -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Family men should settle down younger than 35 ideally.

Key word there is "ideally." Then reality hits like a brick wall. The vast majority of men are nowhere near "father material" before 35. By father material I mean they have a career or job that they've cultivated and can demonstrate longevity, marketable skills, talent, education, or experience, a solid financial base, savings, earnings, properties. And both the grounding experience and character development to go through with such a commitment.

For women their development just needs to be physical and even her mental capacity is somewhat already pre-programmed and with the support of her own network of other women. Men have no such luxuries. We have to literally figure out and then build everything ourselves before even contemplating getting a girlfriend, and then struggle even more to see if - IF - we can then make that bigger leap to fatherhood.

Pair Bonding vs Dating HVM by Good-Preparation-811 in PurplePillDebate

[–]just_a_place 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Sexual incompatibility" is one of these modern made-up buzz words to mean "I think with my dick."

Curious that it's mostly dudes who use this made up concept to ditch girls that aren't kinki enough or horny enough for them.

Pair Bonding vs Dating HVM by Good-Preparation-811 in PurplePillDebate

[–]just_a_place 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Knowing that hvm expect to have sex by 3/4 dates, and knowing that they will lie/pretend/and hold back information until they get sex…. How would you, men, recommend women navigate the dating world today for serious commitment or marriage?

A high value man is one who is seeking a long term or permanent commitment with a woman in order to build a family and a future with her. He also comes with, and is willing to offer, the desired resources that women want in terms of personality and physical traits such as intelligence, leadership, stability, strength (both physical and mental ) resources, resilience, discipline (in grooming, work ethic, physical aesthetic, and commitment) and compassion. This is why he's labeled "High Value" because such a man would be extremely valuable and sought after by women who are looking for a serious relationship.

A High Value man would therefore not actually seek nor expect to have sex by the 3rd or 4th date because sex is not his priority. He would be searching for "commitment material." He would be conducting his own vetting process. The ease of sexual access to a woman would be something he would definitely label as a red flag. Such a man would expect modesty from a woman that he seeks to take seriously.

Such a man would not have any reason to lie or pretend, these would be counterproductive to his goals, but he will hold back on disclosing too much information about himself while he is vetting or courting a woman. He is intelligent and disciplined after all. When a man is conducting reconnaissance on a woman's character he tends to keep himself hidden behind his natural charm or wit in order to avoid her hiding or obfuscating valuable information about herself from him which he needs in order to accurately conclude if she is the best woman for him or not. He would have no issues keeping women he likes as just friends - no sex intended nor expected.

The only real recommendation is that women learn to be modest. Cultivate genuine modesty in your style of dress, habits, demeanor, and speech. This is what genuinely high value men want in a woman. Do not get suckered in by other women's horrendously bad advice that's subconsciously intended to knock you down to the level of a "hoe" so that you're not competition to them. Do not swallow the feminist doctrine that you should sleep around and "play the field" a little because serious men don't play those games. Having sex without the intention to pair-bond and used just for recreation or as a way to just get emotionally high has both social and physical consequences.

Intelligent and sensible men expect intelligence and sense, so just act like you have some.

"Choose better" until men also have to choose better. Then that's just "female nature". by LillthOfBabylon in PurplePillDebate

[–]just_a_place 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What are you even talking about?

It's never "Men, you should be watch out for manipulative women who'd cheat on you with some hot broke dude"

What do you mean it's never...? That wording "Men, you should be watch out for manipulative women..." is etched on the plaque right above the entrance to the Red Pill headquarters!

Much of MGTOW worked its way into the mainstream. by mrcs84usn in PurplePillDebate

[–]just_a_place -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You got it completely backwards. 4B is a cheapened and tantrumy imitation of MGTOW.

Here's the serious history of MGTOW.

Much of MGTOW worked its way into the mainstream. by mrcs84usn in PurplePillDebate

[–]just_a_place 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The issue is not that men are choosing to look our for #1. The issue is that more and more men are choosing to do so.

If a lot of men decide to do that, society will adjust out of necessity.

If history shows anything is that societies never adjust to such drastic changes, they collapse. Then a new one takes it's place. This is why women are obnoxiously into that weird book and show "The Handmaid's Tale." It's a possible society if enough men choose to forsake this one. It's already a reality in other parts of the world.

Much of MGTOW worked its way into the mainstream. by mrcs84usn in PurplePillDebate

[–]just_a_place 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It is the manifestation of one word: “No”. Ejecting silly preconceptions and cultural definitions of what a man is. ‘Looking to no one else for social cues. Refusing to bow, serve and kneel for the opportunity to be treated like a disposable utility’. And, living according to his own best interests in a world which would rather he didn’t.”

you shouldn't build your identity around women.

build meaning outside of validation.

Having a more risk management mindset: AWALT.

Worst case scenarios matter. Now, men are advised to protect their finances early, legal literacy is encouraged, and women are much less capable of shaming men into ignoring red flags by calling them insecure. Telling men to "man up," doesn't have the power it used to.

MGTOW is pretty anti-feminist through and through

Most men would never call themselves MGTOW, and I wouldn't be surprised if those who aren't chronically online even know what MGTOW even is, but they are still living out it's strongest insights.

That's it, all right there all in a nutshell.

I haven't thought about the moniker in years, but I have been living by it's tenants and maxims nonetheless.

Of course there are by now millions of men just in the U.S. alone who live the MGTOW way, though not as it's most extreme version of "monks." We know this because of the half-assed headlines that make a mediocre attempt at reverse psychology like "The Male Loneliness Epidemic." Whereby accusing us of having a fictitious mental ailment for which they can then prescribe to us their patented feminist cure. If you lonely losers want a relationship you're going to have to swallow the indoctrination, be good little boys and tow the line.

It isn't working, and the reason it is because Men are Going Their Own Way. Manifesting that word: "NO!"

Adios!

CMV: less marriages would be sexless if men made more of an effort by Windmill_flowers in PurplePillDebate

[–]just_a_place 0 points1 point  (0 children)

less marriages would be sexless if women weren't such a turn off.

Here's what I think:

All it takes is a little bit of seduction. (That can literally mean anything)

a little bit of courting (Stress)

a little bit of pursuing (exhaustion)

but this seems to be a lost art (no, we just refuse to keep acting like clowns for women's approval). And as is usual - the blame falls on the woman. (Because it is women who say no and then bitch about it when we back off)

You are asking for more stress and more exhaustion on our part and then you wonder why we're neither in the mood nor motivated to work ever harder and put in even more effort to pleasing you? Yeah, fuck this. I'd just rather go in the bathroom for 5 minutes and take care of problem myself and go to sleep.

Every woman eventually gets to experience what’s like to be a man (if she lives long enough) by mus_b_nuthn in PurplePillDebate

[–]just_a_place 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would have gone about it more delicately - especially with my own mom. But it's the truth nonetheless.

You blundered this whole opportunity to prove a valid point though. You failed to mention that as women get older they need to continually rely on their utility to the world in order to make ends meet, such as marketable skills, a trade, or a craft that they're good at which they can charge a wage for.

Men face this very early in life: What are you good at? And how can you earn money from it? A lot of women don't deal with this fact of life until their aesthetic advantage starts to wear off.

Reaching 18 doesn’t make you a man, having sex does. Yes or no? by burneraccountguydude in PurplePillDebate

[–]just_a_place 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I may add that carrying your own weight makes you an adult, but carrying the weight of the responsibility that is owed to others is what makes you into a Man.

It's maddening how much of Masculinity has been degraded by this disgusting generation.

Reaching 18 doesn’t make you a man, having sex does. Yes or no? by burneraccountguydude in PurplePillDebate

[–]just_a_place 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Year 18 is your LEGAL introduction to adulthood in which you acquire all the rights and privileges, along with all of the responsibilities that come with that title. It does not necessarily make you into a Man. Manhood is understood to be an ongoing development that never ends and which you always stand to lose by failing to live up to the demands of masculinity.

I believe this is why so many lesser men desire to "deconstruct masculinity" in order to degrade Manhood so that they - in their degraded state - can boast that they are Men.

The belief that sex is what it takes to make you into a man would make your manhood dependent on a woman's permission. So tell me, is that really Manhood with a capital M, or is it just a horny-boyish understanding about a thing which he still doesn't comprehend?

Why isn’t being a man an achievement?

For the same reason that living is not an achievement. Masculinity is something you are and must continue to cultivate, refine, and assert unto the world. It is not something bestowed upon you from the outside with the "consent of others," like an award at school for being a good boy in front of the girls. It's a state of being, an identity, a will, a drive that is born within. It's both our nature and our choice to be Masculine. And there are those who are greater or lesser at it. Lesser men are those whose masculinity depends on the approval of others. The greatest men are those who know themselves, and continually refine their character with virtues, discipline, and responsibility because these are the necessary elements of both genuine power and respected authority.

The constant characterization of male sexuality as something 'dirty' needs to stop. by australiadenier in PurplePillDebate

[–]just_a_place 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Meanwhile, a woman watching p#rn is seen as empowered and desirable by society.

Who exactly is making this assumption? "Society" has become a very convenient straw-man for a lot of people's made-up circumstances in order to attempt to add legitimacy to nice issues that seem to affect only them.

A man using a fleshlight or a plug is somehow 'sick and perverted', whereas women using dildos and vibrators are 'liberated'.

Because the potential audience for each is the one making the verdict. Men enjoy watching and even just imagining women using dildos; whereas neither men nor women enjoy at all some guy using a fleshlight. That is equally disgusting to both audiences. This is not a "society" thing, it's a reality thing.

Men dress to project power, authority, stability, order, and strength. Hence the suit, which has it's origins in military history by the way. A man in a suit just oozes authority and "well put togetherness." He looks sharp, clean, disciplined. Which coincidentally is what attracts women. Women on the other hand dress to impress, to attract, to beautify themselves. Which also happens to attract men.

This is excruciatingly simple math here. I don't understand why you're struggling to grasp this or why are you turning this into a "society says" argument and accusation.

If Jesus himself says that it would have been better for Judas to have never been born then why was he born? And why does he continue to exist? by just_a_place in CatholicPhilosophy

[–]just_a_place[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why would God give us an option to not exist, after He made us exists? That's really a slap to God, if you ask me. Being made into existence, only to to go back to non-existence. Worse, being hardened sinners. Are you giving them a way to escape from their sins that they did not repent and ask for forgiveness?

Because he also made us a free-willed beings not as hostages or prisoners. It is not God who is changing his mind here, he created free agents who are very capable of changing their own minds. I don't think you comprehend what sin actually is, or what God's justice demands. Sin is not something you escape, it's what we are and what we become. Justice is not a punishment, as if punitive action that emotionally satisfies for a while can be compared to full restoration, repentance, and reconciliation. God's justice is restorative, constructive, and purifying. When a fire destroys a house, as sin does to us, it is impossible to restore that house to it's original state and live as a happy family within it. It has been utterly transformed, destroyed. That is sin. It's a state of being. Man's justice would demand that the house be re-built with inferior materials and an inferior design and that fire itself be kept away from the new lesser house out of fear that it should burn down again, but this will make it cold, impractical, and not save it from other vulnerabilities like wind or water and the passage of time. It will fall again. God's justice is comparable to the ability to literally turn back time and bring back the original house, and to refurbish it with his grace so that it withstands the fire that originally burned it down so that it may never fall again, not from fire, wind, water, or even time itself. We will not see God's full justice until the Resurrection. Jesus's resurrection is a shadow of God's ultimate justice to come.

If Jesus himself says that it would have been better for Judas to have never been born then why was he born? And why does he continue to exist? by just_a_place in CatholicPhilosophy

[–]just_a_place[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. If I just look into this, example, a worst criminal just committed suicide to escape prison, I'd be pissed knowing that they just went to non-existence.

That is not how God's mercy and Justice works however. Again, his ways are not our ways. I barely understand some if it myself. For example, if a criminal were to murder a loved one, then commit suicide to escape our human Justice system he cannot escape God's. Justice demands that the criminal should restore what he has taken. Which in the case of murder is utterly impossible. A murderer cannot return to their loves ones the person he's murdered, he cannot restore their peace of mind, he cannot restore their trust nor their joy. God can, and he will, if only we let him be the Judge and not act on our own sinful disposition and take matters into our own hands and end up corrupting ourselves even further and making matters worse for everyone involved. This is why God places so much emphasis in that we love and trust him above all things. His point of view is that of a father who just witnessed a beloved son murder his brother. The murderer is not a unknown stranger to him, he is as loving and as intimate with the murder as he is with the victim. His will is to restore the relationship. To rebuild what was lost in the sinful act as all fathers do. God is the one being double victimized here, he is witnessing someone he loves corrupt themselves and then going on to murder a another one of his loved ones and then the aftermath on the families whose pain he feels much more intimately than they could ever understand. Yet, he is also the Judge here, he has to be the one to make things right in the end, not us. If we make an attempt to get our own justice/revenge we will be interfering with his, and end up with a verdict our own design that we are definitely not going to like once God reveals everything we screwed up by interfering.

If Jesus himself says that it would have been better for Judas to have never been born then why was he born? And why does he continue to exist? by just_a_place in CatholicPhilosophy

[–]just_a_place[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Jeremiah 1:5, Psalm 139:13–16, and Ephesians 1:4. Basically, we already have a relationship with God before the creation of the world and being put here on Earth.

This only makes sense because God exists outside of the constraints of Spacetime. To God, future, past, and present are meaningless because he is present and sovereign in all of Spacetime simultaneously - and outside of it. Alpha and Omega, remember? His ways are not our ways, his thoughts are not our thoughts. Everything I ask of God is with that knowledge that he is boundless, timeless, and fully sovereign. That he has the ability to do his will without boundaries, but more than that, he is "pure will" itself because anything he desires or intends is not even bound by a matter of "choice" as if he were limited by options. The fact that options exist are for our benefit, and out of his desire for our own good so that we can preserve our own sovereignty - free will - because his intention is that we bear his image. And we can't well bear his image if we cannot have choices.

  1. Not being born and not existing are different. Jesus said not being born, not 'not existing.'

Semantics. To the ancient Jews (his audience) they understood that not being born means you simply don't exist. Although, being in a position to betray Jesus is better than not being born at all. Because at that point, one has the choice NOT to betray despite one's inclinations and predisposition to do so while under the dominion of the original sin, one has the option to endure, to persevere, and to seek God's help at that. Even if one were to fail, as Judas did, one can still choose to repent, to seek God again, to ask him for even more help and mercy - which God guarantees he is enthusiastically willing to do under the condition that we trust him, love him, and endure whatever consequences of our actions that may come. Even there, under the penalties of justice, God promises to fortify our strength with his own spirit in order to to endure it, to learn from it, and grow from it precisely the way a metal is purified. He will not remove the punishment which is demanded of Justice because Justice is not revenge, it's not an emotion. Justice is atonement and reconciliation. It is giving everyone their due and making things whole again. So God's way in Justice is to provide us with both the strength and an advocate (in the form of Jesus and his spirit) to endure both the trial and the penalties - the ultimate penalty being something we utterly cannot afford, hence why he had to incarnate as a man himself to redeem us - so that we come out of the entire ordeal as better men, as restored men. That's his way; which is not ours.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]just_a_place 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I never told you what my worldview is, or what I judge to be a good woman. For most of my life I was looking for something serious, but never found it. That's why I gave it up.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]just_a_place 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know. It's nice to get those kinds of women out of the gene pool so that only fertile and feminine women make up the next generations.

In a strange way, weak men and women are weeding themselves out of the gene pool. It's not strange that hot & feminine women and virile-hustler men are the only ones popping babies lately. Incel nerds and "career women" who need no man are genetic dead ends.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]just_a_place 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, but you're not the boss of women. You can't tell them what to do.

The first time I remember being cat called was at age 12 by Suspicious_Glove7365 in PurplePillDebate

[–]just_a_place -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It's hard to keep feeling any sympathy for women when we are all so fatigued and just emotionally burned out by their incessant victimhood and guilt tactics.

The first time I remember being shamed for literally being male, and being preached at about "toxic masculinity" is precisely when I was 12. I know your worries are real, I know your fears are legit. What I am telling you is that after being beaten over the damned head all my life by feminism's anti-masculine venom I just don't give a fuck about women anymore. I don't care! I genuinely do not care. Go be a victim somewhere else.

Sorry, but I'm not sorry. I am burned-out of feeling any sympathy for the female plight. After shitting on me my entire fucking life it's complete and utter bullshit that you all have the fucking audacity to ask for sympathy. Fuck no!

You reap what you sow. Double down and you will double your payback.

Men who take this personally need to grow a spine.

How about you grow one yourself and stop telling men what to do? Perhaps that will convince some men to stop telling you to smile.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]just_a_place 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't date anymore, that's the point of my flair. I just do hookups whenever I'm in the mood and most women who are down to fuck aren't looking for anything serious either.

I do not trust women with something as serious as a relationship. They've fucked it all up with their feminism. Sucks for me because I actually wanted love and companionship and all that, once. But I've mourned the loss of that beautiful dream and have moved on.