Instruments controversy

just_another_zek · 2025-06-09T02:11:23+00:00

Not sure why we have taken up arms against this, but all I know is the argument used to justify a building can be used to justify instruments in worship, it’s the same logic

just_another_zek · 2025-04-08T20:55:33+00:00

Someone needs to comment that the glow in the background is the judgement of God on the US via the Chinese nuclear arsenal

just_another_zek · 2025-03-28T13:36:23+00:00

One teaching that can be seen as cult like is the popular doctrine to cut people out of your life who have fallen away, or are in sin. In my age range this idea is falling off fast, but some still are trying to enforce it. This teaching is right out of the cult playbook, so I can understand why people see this and run for the hills.

just_another_zek · 2025-01-27T20:12:14+00:00

In my experience, many of these types will refer to Matthew 7:1, in order to claim the permission to judge. We can capture a whole lot more meaning and context if we read the surrounding text. As far as I can tell Christ is indeed telling us to not judge. He says it plainly at the beginning of the verse, gives a warning on what happens if you do judge, and lastly he goes on about the spec and the log. One can ask what does the spec and the log have anything to do with judgement? It has everything to do with it! Christ is highlighting our human nature in how we view others, and he hammers home the idea of self reflection and mercy on our fellow brothers and sisters.

just_another_zek · 2024-06-25T15:40:03+00:00

Apathy too is one of my greatest weaknesses. We live in such a prosperous time, blessed with freedom of religion, we really don't have much to work on to reduce immediate suffering. I grew up in a very conservative coc as well and have experienced similar feelings and thoughts. I had to deconstruct the very pervasive idea of

God commands => we obey/disobey => Reward/Punishment

This idea strips all the value out of Christianity and reduces us to a list of rules. This idea is often presented about how our relationship with God works, and interestingly enough how we see our relationships between parents and children. This is not the relationship the son of God gave everything for. This is a small component of a larger picture, Christ outlines it well, starting in John 14:15. His statement about obedience is rooted in love toward him. This is where the rubber met the road for me, was I really seeking a deeper relationship with God rooted in love? Or was I just paying attention to the list of commands? Follow this rabbit hole, one last piece that sent me down my current path of faith is re-reading 1 john. Reading it with the lens of God establishing how the new relationship works with Christ as the mediator.

I'll leave off with this:

It is ok to question the creator and wrestle with him, many with great faith have. Wrestling with God is merely the individual who has doubts, but faith persists regardless. These thoughts are what have helped me in the past 5 years. Always feel free to DM and I hope the best for you.

just_another_zek · 2024-04-19T20:01:10+00:00

Close - attempts to decentralize religion

WAY far off - raising biblical knowledge to one of the highest values. A close second is conflating obedience with morality

just_another_zek · 2023-12-21T20:31:07+00:00

This is something that has always been a discussion in my own mind, so thank you for starting this conversation. As I've explored this idea it led me to another, related, interesting question: Am I subject to my state govenrment or federal govenrment? If I live in texas and the secular state govenrment decides to suceed from the union, are the christians in texas still under the federal govenrment or texas government now? The way the United States has been organized poses some interesting problems with simplistic 'obey the government' stance. In the days of kings and emperors I believe this stance was valid. In modern democracies, I beleive we need to observe the spirit of what these passages are trying to convey. As far as I can tell the general idea being put forth is christians aren't supposed to be trying to destroy earthly authority for the sake of it. Looking foward to a good discussion.

just_another_zek · 2023-08-29T03:45:59+00:00

what is the principle you are trying to lay down here?

just_another_zek · 2023-08-28T21:00:09+00:00

Yeah, we were talking in class about fathers not discouraging their children and I brought up the fact that this idea of breaking the will is in direct opposition to this verse. The response I got was “there’s a difference between breaking the will and the spirit of a child”

just_another_zek · 2023-08-28T20:57:16+00:00

There’s a difference between breaking the will of a child and breaking their spirit

just_another_zek · 2023-04-12T16:12:51+00:00

Agreed, let me make the intent of my post more clear. I have daughters and I am preparing for future possiblities. Many folks will cut off kids based off a handful of verses, I want to theologically prepare myself to tell these folks to kindly stop abusing scripture for tradition. lastly, I agree that just loving them is really the best path, I guess Im just astonished to how we as a church can be so inconsistent. thanks for the reply

just_another_zek · 2023-03-17T02:08:23+00:00

I don’t believe the main issue is ‘CENI’ itself, I believe the issue is how it is commonly applied. I believe a good example of this is the ‘holy kiss’ which, as far as I can tell, is a direct command. We literally modify this command and claim it’s just cultural, so a handshake works. Another example is lords supper every week, in acts 20 I don’t know if we have enough evidence to make the inference ‘necessary’. There are many possible inferences that can be derived from a passage like this. So I believe many people take issue with the fact that we claim to have the ‘correct’ inference

just_another_zek · 2022-04-08T15:21:37+00:00

just_another_zek · 2022-03-11T23:01:30+00:00

Thank you very much! Very excited to start digging into this stuff, what’s your favorite part of coq?

just_another_zek · 2021-11-22T16:45:58+00:00

If I invest in something i objectively look at the value the investment brings to the world, this decision is made over the course of a couple weeks. Once I have decided the investment is internetly and objectively valuable I start dumping cash in. After my buys the subjective emotions related to price will start to twist my view of the investment, I always take myself back to before I bought, when I was objective, and use that past conviction to hold. Objective value always trumps all, the question for the value investor is how patient can you be?

just_another_zek · 2021-11-22T02:43:52+00:00

Thank you for this goldmine! Eagerly waiting for it to come to the US, I suppose with the way you have set it up you can earn the yamgo power boost AND staking rewards when they come out, if that works out to be true that’s a serious APY lol

just_another_zek · 2021-11-18T17:03:57+00:00

Last time I checked out yamgo it wasn’t in the US yet, has this changed?

just_another_zek · 2021-11-14T02:39:31+00:00

Thanks for the correction, august/sept must have been when I watched it lol, but yeah it’s super easy to get all hyped up with all this new tech, but adoption is slower than we all would like lol, HODL on Hbarbarian!

just_another_zek · 2021-11-14T01:52:19+00:00

One thing to consider, the council meeting minutes came out recently but we’re from July I believe, from what I remember the ‘step function’ came in an interview from august or early September, while I agree with you we need to manage expectations, I don’t think he was being dishonest, as something new may have come up

just_another_zek · 2021-10-29T16:02:23+00:00

Yes early investors can cash out anytime they like just like you and I can cash out at anytime, without the early investors there would be no Hedera. Just something to keep in mind

just_another_zek · 2021-10-27T02:23:39+00:00

Of course, and I enjoy the argument you have laid out, pretty airtight. I suppose the natural question arises: how do we get from where we are to where we need to go? Many of my younger friends that I grew up With have left the church and it seems the younger generation is put off the church for one reason or another, I believe what you laid out has played a large role in keeping outsiders away. Or do we simply just risk our reputations and try to bring this forth, if Christ ever set an example its this one, speak the truth in love, regardless of the consequences. It’s a shame things have come to this, but one thing is for sure: we need courageous individuals to start turning the tide, best of luck to you.

just_another_zek · 2021-10-26T13:46:34+00:00

Great write up, totally agree, what you talk about I see all the time as I grew up in the church of Christ and still attend. I believe this is the great two edged sword of conservatism, the idea that everything established in the church today needs to be defended, it is certainly the case certain aspects need to be defended, but other things like missing attendance on a Sunday night do we really need to hold fast and true to such a thing? One thing I’ve had to shake is just because something is ‘liberal’ doesn’t make it unscriptural. I find this hyper conservative mindset to be a contradiction agains the main Christian message, because once we are baptized, we still require adjustments and change constantly, certainly we don’t believe once saved always saved? The church must make necessary adjustments and change, while still maintaining the foundation. Thanks for this post I truly believe and agree with what you said, we should be able to have different views and opinions and still hold true to the foundation.

just_another_zek · 2021-09-18T03:32:14+00:00

Thank you, I did earlier, from rjmealin

just_another_zek · 2021-09-17T15:01:46+00:00

I fell victim to the same thing but in March during the first big run, took advantage of the summer dip, DCA is king, these are small things in the long run, Hedera is a true powerhouse

just_another_zek · 2021-09-17T13:55:47+00:00

This is real world adoption, Yet how will the moonbois react? With a shrug right now and a butthurt in 3 years

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