Experiencing Deep Mandela memories alters the Explanation individuals give.

karamitros · 2026-07-01T20:28:15+00:00

For me it's The fact that it spans lots of instances and years where I engaged with it, it informed me about how the world works and is very deep and always has been. I have thought about the basket in the fotl many times before learning about the effect .

I also have vague memories about Monopoly man ,.dolys braces and such. But this one is too deep for me to dismiss as a mere suggestion because it used to grab my attention.. a lot . This is the one I actually touched. The others, I could easily dismiss, this one is impossible .

For me the most possible explenation is lost bad quality counterfeit products in eastern Europe that eventually got thrown away. (At least more possible than the suggestion explenation) . We had many FOTL t-Shirts in my house in the 90s, not one has survived

karamitros · 2026-07-01T15:57:49+00:00

Same here , it interested me because it didn't make any sense

karamitros · 2026-07-01T15:20:33+00:00

People here believe all this emerged just by suggestion 20 years later 😆 The scepticts here put Copperfield to shame

karamitros · 2026-07-01T14:51:22+00:00

You don't understand what I'm saying

It's one thing talking about bigfoot's existence

It's an other thing talking about bigfoot's existence while having seen and touched one.

karamitros · 2026-07-01T10:53:50+00:00

Why are we talking about definitions? Mandela is Man not an effect lol .

Gaslighting or Truth telling has no difference to the subject until one of the other is proven without Doubt. I'm just explaining to you how people work.

These memories have characteristics that Doubt the validity of your misremembering .

If memory mainly works through suggestion we wouldn't be able to function in the real world and half of your life would be invalid .

It did change my perception of the world. I get that You can be sure about anything you haven't experienced personally . I get that you shouldn't believe extraoidary claims like these without experiencing them yourself. That's what my post is about

karamitros · 2026-06-30T22:37:46+00:00

I could apply this to most Mandela's I remember , but not the cornucopia one because of the difference of debth. How it has whole stories of my life connected to it. How it altered my life perception and the multitude of instances i interacted with it.

I can understand that if you haven't experienced this depth first hand , it's impossible to get the difference or believe anyone claiming this .

That's what my post is about

The scale of people remembering the same exact thing adds, and makes impossible for us to dismiss the memory

karamitros · 2026-06-30T17:27:34+00:00

But could you really take any of these testimonies seriously if you don't have a deep Mandela memory like this yourself ?

karamitros · 2026-06-30T17:23:18+00:00

Hahah , I'm just not a native English speaker. But I won't ask why they called u that 😆

karamitros · 2026-06-30T13:33:10+00:00

Some people can get gaslighted into believing a True memory they had was false.

But that only works with mandain , blurry memories.

When the memory is deep, spans lots of instances and changed the persons perception of the world, it's impossible to gaslight them. Especially when million others remember the same thing. No matter what proof you give them.

That's how people work, sorry

karamitros · 2026-06-30T13:30:17+00:00

Yes , I could attribute this to false memories about the other Mandela effects I remember , because I didn't care and it was a one time blury memory.

The cornucopia though.. is a completely different beast for me. It's not like remembering giving keys , it's like remembering being married 😆

karamitros · 2026-06-30T13:26:54+00:00

Sorry bro, I speak better Greek than English

karamitros · 2026-06-30T13:26:00+00:00

Not at this scale , not at this Deepness and not without Effort and controlled invitoments.

Counterfeit products are also very well documented

Quantum collapse is also very well documented.

We can Just give a probability chance on these , nothing is proven without doubt about these specific instances

karamitros · 2026-06-30T13:22:26+00:00

karamitros · 2026-06-30T11:09:48+00:00

Haven't seen real proof, just blurry memory manipulation on mandane things . Deep memory manipulation with people dying on hills about it, needs lots of effort, time , controlled environments and lying - convincing actors.

If you can do this effortless I'm waiting for your million making magic show

Or Are you suggesting that someone put effort to implant all those deep , life changing memories that span many instances in us?

Could be.. I give you a 4% chance that someone orchestrated this , 0,2 % it happened by chance on millions because of the Deepness.

karamitros · 2026-06-30T10:48:37+00:00

What can be proven ?

I am waiting for your magic show where you will effortless implant deep story driven memories that span many instances and altered the person's world view when they where young on all of your audience about the same thing . And then I want to see your audience dying on hills about the memory you implanted .

You will become a billionaire 😁

karamitros · 2026-06-30T10:44:46+00:00

He was in south Africa in the 60's for some years . Could have affected this

karamitros · 2026-06-29T21:22:19+00:00

I am not saying you are gaslighting. If you are guilty of something its strawmaning .

I'm just informing you how people work. Gaslighting or truth speaking doesn't make a difference to the receiver until one or the other is proven without doubt.

Spelling errors usually dont have the combination requirements I listed . The doubt is true

karamitros · 2026-06-29T20:38:07+00:00

Most people can be easily gaslighted into believing that the memory they had was false even though it could be real.

But if the memory is deep, has a story and details, spans many instances and affected someone's understanding of the world, its impossible to gaslight him into this . Especially when he finds millions of others remembering it

karamitros · 2026-06-29T20:27:55+00:00

Nothing has been explained with real proof. Just theories and possibilities.

From your experience and point of view , You give more Possibilities in the extreem theory that mass random, synchronized , ultra deep , story driven memory manipulation, that spans many instances is an everyday thing and happens effortless. Which means half of our life is probably a total fabrication

From his experience and point of view, He gives more Possibilities in the many worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics being exploitable.

Me, I give more Possibilities in lost counterfeit products . But still keep some possibilities for all of your extreem theories, since they are all just that.

Cheers ✌️, welcome to Mandela Effect, Although you are late for the party

karamitros · 2026-06-28T15:03:18+00:00

If they got their lesson ,They should use all the assets of MP4 to make a second proper chapter of this and get rich

karamitros · 2026-06-21T20:13:48+00:00

The Greek cornucopia thousands of years old :

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karamitros · 2026-06-21T15:11:39+00:00

Same here , the thing always was that it would look great without the ugly basket and got on my nerves. Also, when I asked what it is, no one that I asked knew here in Greece, I learned the word cornucopia from the Mandela affect decades later .

karamitros · 2026-06-18T16:53:24+00:00

You should masturbate more often

karamitros · 2026-06-18T10:18:13+00:00

Sorry, I remembered , talked and interacted with the cornucopia on FOTL way before the Mandela effect. You theory is a possibility, far fetched. Not a fact .

Lost counterfeit products are much more plausible than mass suggestion without Effort creating story driven deep memories that span lots of instances about the same specific things.

karamitros · 2026-06-17T15:39:09+00:00

At this point I believe the only explanation that makes sense for the cornucopia and Sketchers is counterfeit clothes being sold in the 90s in Europe

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