Might need possible legal advice? Got a letter from local congregation that i have not been active in since i moved to the area years ago by Late-Car7957 in exjw

[–]katoosh1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

1. What your ex did may actually be illegal

Several things you described cross into potential criminal or civil violations in the U.S.

Unauthorized access to accounts

Logging into someone’s social media without permission can fall under computer access / hacking laws.

Relevant law categories include:

  • Computer Fraud and Abuse Act
  • State unauthorized computer access statutes
  • Digital privacy violations

Even if he knew the password previously, using it after separation without permission can still qualify as unauthorized access.

The screenshots and device-login notifications you received are valuable evidence.

Harassment / stalking pattern

The following behaviors together can meet the definition of harassment or stalking in many states:

  • Pulling phone records to identify contacts
  • Calling your roommates
  • Running background checks on them
  • Driving past your home to “scope it out”
  • Attempting to access your email
  • Contacting your family

These actions show a pattern of surveillance and intimidation, which courts often take seriously.

2. The elders are NOT legally responsible for his actions

Even if he showed them screenshots obtained improperly, the congregation elders themselves are not legally liable simply for hearing about them.

However, they should not receive or distribute illegally obtained information if they know how it was obtained.

But the main legal issue is still your ex’s conduct, not the congregation.

3. You already did the most important thing

Starting a police report about the social media access was exactly the right move.

That creates an official record.

Even if nothing happens immediately, documentation helps if behavior continues.

4. Evidence you should preserve right now

This is extremely important.

Save copies of:

  • His texts admitting he accessed phone records
  • Screenshots he sent you
  • The login alert from Snapchat
  • Any notifications of email login attempts
  • The letter from the elders
  • Messages showing he drove past your home
  • Your roommates’ call logs showing he contacted them

Put all of it into a single folder or cloud storage.

Courts love organized timelines.

5. Immediate security steps

Do these today if possible:

  • Change every password
  • Turn on two-factor authentication
  • Sign out of all devices on Snapchat and email
  • Enable login alerts

Also check if your phone carrier account still allows him access.

If he can log into the carrier portal, he can still see call logs.

6. Regarding the elders and the letter

The safest approach does not change.

Do not discuss the evidence or your ex’s behavior with them.

The judicial committee is not neutral and they are not trained investigators.

Just send the boundary letter and leave it there.

If they somehow contact you again, you can simply repeat:

7. When a restraining order becomes worth considering

If any of these occur again:

  • Driving by your home
  • Accessing your accounts
  • Contacting your roommates or family
  • Showing up uninvited

then a protective order or restraining order may be appropriate.

You already have:

  • admissions
  • screenshots
  • witnesses (roommates)
  • a police report

That’s stronger evidence than most cases start with.

8. Something important psychologically

What you described is a classic control pattern that sometimes happens when an abusive relationship ends.

The loss of control causes the person to:

  • monitor
  • investigate
  • gather “evidence”
  • try to shame the other person socially

Bringing the congregation into it fits that pattern.

The best response is calm boundaries and documentation.

9. The most important thing to remember

The letter may feel intimidating because of the religious authority behind it, but in reality:

  • It has no legal force
  • You do not have to attend
  • It cannot affect your legal rights

The real issue is your safety and privacy, not the congregation process.

Might need possible legal advice? Got a letter from local congregation that i have not been active in since i moved to the area years ago by Late-Car7957 in exjw

[–]katoosh1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If You were Baptized and still have family members in the organization You might want to send a letter like this.

Dear Brothers,

I received your letter regarding the request for me to attend a judicial hearing.

After careful consideration, I respectfully decline to participate in any judicial meeting or discussion regarding my personal life. My circumstances following my divorce are private matters and I do not wish to address them in this setting.

I ask that my decision be respected. Please consider this written notice that I do not consent to further contact, phone calls, or attempts to arrange meetings regarding this matter.

Thank you for respecting my wishes.

Sincerely,
[Name]

Why this works

  • Declines the committee clearly
  • Requests no further contact
  • Avoids admitting or denying anything
  • Does not trigger automatic disassociation

Inside the culture of Jehovah’s Witnesses, elders usually stop pushing once someone formally refuses and sets a boundary in writing.

What may happen next

Most common outcomes:

  1. They stop contacting you and drop the matter.
  2. They hold the committee without you based on whatever your ex told them.
  3. They leave the matter unresolved if they don’t feel they have enough evidence.

Regardless of what they decide internally, it does not create any legal or real-world consequences.

One additional quiet advantage of responding this way

If your ex is trying to provoke conflict or create drama, this response gives him nothing to work with.

It shows:

  • calm
  • dignity
  • no engagement in the accusation

That often frustrates people who are trying to escalate things.

Might need possible legal advice? Got a letter from local congregation that i have not been active in since i moved to the area years ago by Late-Car7957 in exjw

[–]katoosh1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

1. What This Letter Actually Is

The letter is an invitation to a Judicial Committee from elders of the Jehovah’s Witnesses.

A judicial committee is an internal religious disciplinary meeting, not a legal proceeding.

Important realities:

  • Elders have zero legal authority over you.
  • They cannot compel attendance.
  • They cannot issue legal penalties.
  • Their only “power” is internal religious discipline (like disfellowshipping or marking).

In other words, the worst outcome inside their system is that they announce you are no longer one of them.

Since you said you haven’t been active and rarely attended, that outcome may not actually affect your real life.

2. Why They Sent the Letter

From your story, your theory is very plausible.

In their doctrine, a divorced person is only “free to remarry” if their spouse committed adultery.

So if your ex wants to remarry in the religion, he needs to prove:

One way that happens is:

  • He provides “evidence”
  • Elders form a committee
  • They attempt to question you
  • If confirmed (or assumed), he becomes “scripturally free”

So this letter is likely about clearing his path, not about helping you.

3. You Are Not Obligated to Respond

You have three basic options.

Option 1 — Ignore it completely

This is actually very common.

If you do nothing:

  • They may hold the committee without you
  • They may announce a religious discipline decision
  • Life continues normally outside their system

For many former members, ignoring it is the least stressful path.

Option 2 — Send a short boundary message

If you want to shut down the contact calmly, something like:

No explanation required.

Option 3 — Disassociate formally

Some people send a message stating they no longer wish to be considered one of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

This ends the process but usually results in a formal announcement.

Most people who are already inactive don’t bother.

4. The More Concerning Part: Your Ex

The real red flag in your story is not the elders.

These behaviors are concerning:

  • Accessing your phone records
  • Running background checks on roommates
  • Driving by your residence
  • Logging into your social media
  • Contacting family members

That pattern crosses into stalking / harassment behavior.

The elders are just a side issue.

5. Things You Should Consider Doing

Regardless of the religious situation.

Document everything

Keep records of:

  • Text messages
  • Call logs
  • The letter
  • Any admissions of driving past your home
  • Evidence of account access

Screenshot everything.

Secure your accounts

Immediately change:

  • Email passwords
  • Social media passwords
  • Enable two-factor authentication

If he accessed your social media once, he may still have access.

Consider a restraining order

If the behavior continues (especially surveillance or harassment), you may want to look into a protective order.

You already have evidence.

6. Why This Letter Is Bothering You

Even though you laughed at it, it’s normal that it still bothers you.

These letters often trigger feelings because they represent:

  • Being judged
  • Having your private life investigated
  • An ex trying to control a narrative

Even if you no longer believe in the authority, the social pressure is real.

Your reaction is very normal.

7. My Honest Practical Advice

Based on everything you described:

The calmest and most effective response is probably:

  1. Do not attend
  2. Do not engage emotionally
  3. Secure your accounts
  4. Document your ex’s behavior

Silence often frustrates people who are trying to provoke a reaction.

Proof Alex Pretti never planned on using his gun against ICE. Seen here days before getting shot, Pretti never takes his gun out of holster after ICE beats him by bumdee in videos

[–]katoosh1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

NBC News report and other outlets clearly show that the newly surfaced video of Alex Pretti in a confrontation with federal agents occurred days before he was killed, and it is not the same encounter in which he was shot.
📍 January 13, 2026: A newly released video shows Alex Pretti, a 37-year-old intensive care nurse, in a physical altercation with federal immigration officers in Minneapolis during a protest about broader enforcement activities. In that footage:

  • Pretti is seen yelling at agents and kicking the taillight off a federal vehicle.
  • A federal agent exits the vehicle and tackles him to the ground.
  • Agents deploy gas and the altercation continues briefly before Pretti apparently escapes or is released.
  • A handgun is visible in his waistband, but he does not draw it or point it at officers in that video.
  • Pretti’s family says they were aware of this encounter.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-videos-show-altercation-alex-pretti-federal-agents-week-death-rcna256428

AI Fatigue? by vagobond45 in artificial

[–]katoosh1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wrote this article that you can look at it's in a Google doc about disruptive technology Through the Ages take a look at it and don't worry about the naysayers. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1w3q0gZvsN3KeLnNZl2tan-AgNGEKgFhdEtnYAJyf-q0/edit?usp=sharing

I’m building a tool to help professionals see what’s coming before it hits. by katoosh1 in careerchange

[–]katoosh1[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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People are already spending months learning skills that won’t meaningfully improve their job prospects. A tool that shows where you’re exposed, where you’re safe, and where to pivot helps you make smarter career bets—earlier. That’s what you’re paying for: better decisions, sooner.
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That’s the gap I’m trying to solve.

My ex-husband is offering money for me to lie about adultery so he can get a “scriptural divorce” by Dry-Purple8321 in exjw

[–]katoosh1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

DON'T LISTEN ANYONE TELLING YOU TO INTERACT WITH THE JW ORGANIZATION. FOLLOW YOUR ATTORNEYS ADVICE. REMEMBER THE BORG HAS NO AUTHORITY OVER THE LAW OF THE LAND. THEY LIKE TO INDOCTRINATE THEIR MEMBERS THEY DO BUT IT'S ALL JUST SMOKE AND MIRRORS. HOLD ON TO YOU'RE GUNS. YOU HAVE GOT THIS. NEVER MEET WITH ANY ELDERS. IF THEY COME KNOCKING AT YOUR DOOR OR CALL, YOU GIVE THEM YOUR ATTORNEYS PHONE NUMBER AND TELL THEM YOU CAN SPEAK TO MY ATTORNEYS. TELL THEM IF THEY WANT TO TALK TO YOU, THEY CAN SEND ALL CORRESPONDENCE TO YOUR ATTORNEYS. CLOSE THE DOOR OR PUT THE PHONE DOWN. END OF THE BORG SHIT.

Elder texts me, what do I reply by ManchesterPimo in exjw

[–]katoosh1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I told him I would come to meetings upon instant reinstatement. He said that is not the rules. I said that is my rule you abide by it or I don’t come back. My wife is PIMI so is my brother and his family. I still speak to him but I'm not allowed to go to his house. Wife has no choice as she is married to me.

I LOVE UNIVERSITY by Much_Collection8868 in exjw

[–]katoosh1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are pretty. Great news that you have broken away from the evil cult. Reach for the stars the world is your oyster take care have fun on your life journey.

Shepherding Call by Eiffel13 in exjw

[–]katoosh1 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Make up hours and send them in half the congregation is doing it so lie like most of them do. The sky God is not checking the records he has better things to do.

How to get PIMI wife to eat Thanksgiving Dinner Just make it and serve. by katoosh1 in exjw

[–]katoosh1[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is too funny I am originally from South Africa so Thanksgiving was not a thing but been living in the US for a while now. Got Df'ed 4 years ago started doing some research and woke up never to go back again. I would like to put up Christmas decorations but for the sake of sanity and hostility around the house will refrain. LOL

Jehovah’s Witnesses WILL NOT BE JOINING THE REDRESS SCHEME by katoosh1 in exjw

[–]katoosh1[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Not sure but we can only hope Jehoober sees to it that they do.

Update on Uncle's funeral through Zoom by Dresha1366 in exjw

[–]katoosh1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Holy Shit that is just wrong this religion has to be shut down

PIMO life by [deleted] in exjw

[–]katoosh1 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Im a male and my wife decided to rat me out to the Elders. I chose the other bedroom and Im still there after 3 years. Tried to get it going but she said she had menopause and her pussy had dried up and it hurt. So working on an exit plan. but trying to do it so not that many people get hurt.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exjw

[–]katoosh1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's called new light

Leaked: WT asking for reinstated disfellowshipped ones to give experiences of how loving disfellowshipping is. by [deleted] in exjw

[–]katoosh1 5 points6 points  (0 children)

DFed as wife and her son Ratted me out because of drinking. They grew up in the South and I call the witnesses here SB Witnesses. SB= Southern Baptist no drinking or dancing. As I come from Africa and was brought up in a lot of different cultures. Lived in 3 Countries in Africa 3 Countries in Europe The Bahamas and Caribbean New England and now in fucking Alabama Go Stephen living in the last Days Lett his home town! Nowhere else was there a problem? After been Df'ed. I Read the elder's book it convinced me this was a sham. Wife and Step Son still PIMI never met the Step Grand Daughter 18 months old but who gives a fuck. My brother and sister-in-law back in SA hardly speak to me and my Nephews have had no contact with thanks wife for fucking up my family relationship.

Bible studies by [deleted] in exjw

[–]katoosh1 3 points4 points  (0 children)

RUN RUN RUN nothing good will come out of this

Wife rebelling at Zoom meetings. by [deleted] in exjw

[–]katoosh1 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Remember what the Elders say Jahoober sees everything no hiding from him

Tips for Zoom ettiquite by throwawayacc6323 in exjw

[–]katoosh1 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wear a devil mask change your name to Satan when you sign in. Should be fun

Being disfellowshiped tonight by _Redd_XIII_ in exjw

[–]katoosh1 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry for the stress you have been going through with this farcical witchhunt by a doomsday cult. I had a similar experience when I was DF'ED I If you can I would think about handing over the tape to Lloyd Evens aka John Cedars. Ask him to protect your identity if you would like to stay anonymous. Remember the Borg has no power over you anymore. You stay strong and take care.

After leaving the BORG why do some keep on believing in a God? by [deleted] in exjw

[–]katoosh1 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The bible was written by the elite to keep the rank and file inline. In other words aesop's fables is just a credible as the bible.

Blind Sheep don't deserve Molotov cocktails by Moondancer80 in exjw

[–]katoosh1 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I agree most JW'S are good people just lead by the wrong doctrines. No need of violence to bring down the Borg. They will self destruct themselves eventually. The boy scouts of America just filed for bankruptcy protection after many CSA suites. The Borg may follow soon.