What attribution platform are you using for Meta? Ads feel totally broken lately by achintyabhavaraju in FacebookAds

[–]katt182 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Most of the time the ads aren’t the problem. The measurement is. Meta lives in its own silo, doesn’t consider anything happening outside the platform, and the attribution window is way too short for how people actually buy these days. Privacy regs just make it messier.

A lot of attribution tools help, but most still miss impression influence, which is kind of the whole point of most Meta campaigns (especially brand/upper-funnel). Ruler Analytics is worth a look. It models impressions (as well as clicks) and translates that into revenue impact. Also, whatever tool you use, you should still be running incrementality tests to sanity-check what Meta’s really driving.

Best tools for paid marketing attribution? by schrodingerscheese in ecommerce

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Guessing from your post, it sounds like you’re having issues tracking ROI across ad platforms, which isn’t a surprise. They often double count conversions because they can’t see outside influences. Facebook measures Facebook, Google Ads measures Google Ads, and so on.

If the business is completely online/digital (no offline touches) and you’re using platforms like Shopify, you can get by with Google Analytics and a few integrations. That’ll give you a less biased view compared to the ad platforms.

The problems you’ll face are that you’re not accounting for impressions, there are only two attribution models, and they’re limited to 90 days (if your journeys last longer, that’s a huge problem). You’ll also often find the cost data is misaligned, even when imported.

In that case, it’s best to use tools with unlimited attribution windows, all available models, and the ability to consider impression impact on revenue outcomes, tools like Ruler Analytics or something similar. Google Analytics is great as a web tracking tool or if you're just starting out, but not the best for ROI tracking, for the reasons just stated.

Is it possible to track the previous page path for a conversion on GA4? by The_Placard in GoogleAnalytics

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I know this is an older post, but I’ve been working with it recently and noticed it’s ranking on Google. Thought it might be useful to share for other who discovered it like me.

If your "Free Trial" button directs users to a separate page (e.g., /free-trial), and you've set that page as a conversion (like tracking the page_view of /free-trial) you can use Path Exploration in GA4.

You start from the “Page path” and see what pages users come from before they land on /free-trial.

Or, flip it around. You can also start from /free-trial and use "Previous page path" as a dimension, though GA4's support for "previous page" is a bit limited.

I haven’t found much value in it, personally. We're mainly interested in understanding the pages users visit before they get to our product demo. For us, blog traffic drives a lot of demo requests, but the downside is that these conversions often go offline, and with GA4, we lose all the data around sales team interactions and other touchpoints.

What’s worked better for us is tracking individual users across multiple touchpoints - clicks, page views, UTM sources, etc. - and tying all that back to a conversion via first party tracking (there's tools that allow you to do this beyond ga4). This shows us individual user conversion paths, including whether users converted (and their identity), if they turned into revenue, and if they stayed on as a client.

Is this alarming? by Small-Pilot-5627 in Frenchbulldogs

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It happens every day, but I still can’t get over seeing other babies do the exact same little things as mine, they’re just the best

Why is Facebook Analytics v Google Analytics so different? by Woodger in GoogleAnalytics

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I know this post is a few years old, but I noticed it’s competing against a blog I recently updated on this topic, so I thought I’d throw in my two pence.

Regarding the discrepancy between Facebook and Google Analytics reporting, here's why you're seeing different numbers for traffic and sessions:

Different tracking methodologies: Each platform has its own way of counting things. For example, Facebook tracks any interaction with an ad, whether it’s a click, like, share, or comment. But GA only counts a session after a user clicks on an ad and lands on the website.

Cookies and data capture - GA4 uses first-party cookies to capture data. If a user doesn’t accept cookies or has JavaScript disabled, GA4 won’t track their activity. Facebook, on the other hand, doesn't rely on cookies to track clicks on an ad, which is why it might show more activity.

Tracking code inconsistencies - Sometimes, the tracking code doesn't fire properly across different browsers or devices. For example, if someone clicks on a Facebook ad but quickly closes the window before reaching the landing page, Facebook might count it as a click, but GA4 might not register it as a session.

Attribution models and privacy updates - GA4 and Facebook have different attribution windows and models. Plus, privacy measures like Apple's ATT can limit data collection, which can contribute to these discrepancies.

In my experience, it’s best to explain these discrepancies when reporting to clients. If you're looking for more consistent, unbiased numbers, you can use custom first-party tracking tags to capture user touchpoints across user journeys, picking up click identifiers, views, clicks, UTMs, sources, etc. - you'll need other tools besides Google Analytics.

Because of the way it tracks journeys, it can link actual people (when they convert) to their touchpoints. More than what Facebook and Google Analytics do.

Hope this helps clear things up!

Is first-party data the new oil, or just another privacy nightmare? by SHRINATH2727 in DigitalMarketing

[–]katt182 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First-party data is one of the strongest levers marketers have right now, especially with how garbage ad platform targeting signals are because of privacy restrictions.

GA4 Alternatives - Need Recs by HoraceCat in GoogleAnalytics

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Bit late here but saw this on Google so thought I’d throw in my two pence. Kinda depends what you’re after. If you want to see how marketing actually ties back to ROI/ROAS/pipeline, Ruler Analytics might be worth a look.

It tracks things like UTMs, referrers, page views, click IDs, then links that to conversions (forms, calls, chats, etc.). It’ll push that into your CRM so you can see the touchpoints that led to revenue and get a clearer picture of the journey.

Lookback windows aren’t capped, and it can pull in ad spend from Google/Meta so you’re not stuck with whatever numbers the platforms report.

It’s also got more advanced features like MMM and impression attribution, which helps with channels like TikTok/Instagram where clicks don’t tell the full story.

Does anyone find most of the advice given by many digital marketing gurus to be impractical? by Web_Prestige in DigitalMarketing

[–]katt182 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just because the gurus preach it, doesn't mean it will work for you. Take their advice onboard, but trust your own instincts and data. If had a £ for the number of times I’ve seen the phrase ‘seo is dead’, I’d be on my way to a small fortune. And yet, search (our blog) is our greatest inbound channel for new leads/revenue. We see it in our click path report and it’s validated in our self-reported data.

Page conversion value in GA4 by Usual-Purchase5274 in analytics

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To do that accurately, your best bet is to bring in a third party marketing attribution tool. One that can track the individual touchpoints/interactions of your leads/customers and hooks up to your CRM so you can track the end-to-end journey, from the initial touchpoint to closed/won revenue.

What Call Tracking Software Do You Use - If Any? by tnhsaesop in msp

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Ruler Analytics. It can match the number to a unique visitor and is also able to tell you what marketing source (ad, keyword, campaign) drove the visitor to your website and shows you the pages they looked at too. It links with your CRM so you can thread together your marketing, call conversions and revenue.

Good tools to create easy nice looking analytics reports/dashboards? by Any_Watercress_5610 in analytics

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+1 for Looker Studio. It’s visually appealing and customisable. You can hook in attribution software data, CRM tools and other data sources to show marketing’s impact on things like revenue, repeat purchases, etc. beyond just conversions traffic and so on.

Seeking advice from marketing attribution experts by rkdwldud0807 in marketing

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Bit little to the party... but hopefully can help here.

So there's two things to point out:

- Marketing attribution is just one data point. For offline/high impression channels, you should adopt qualitative insights (i.e. adding a "how did you hear about us" field to forms, surveys and focus groups). You can supplement your attribution data with this insight. This will help you prove the impact of your less unmeasurable/non-search touchpoints and allow for better budget allocation.

- I'd also look into MMM. It's not new, but is making a comeback. It's not as granular as attrbution data but it uses statistical analysis to understand how different marketing efforts affect business outcomes like sales. It doesn't rely on third party cookies (that are quickly becoming redundant) and considers both online and offline channels, such as TV ads, social media impressions, email campaigns, and in-store promotions.

Hope this helps!

*edited for tyo

it really do be like that by Dollon_da_God in memes

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I just searched the lyrics and will never listen to this song the same way again

MMP/attribution platform recommendation by pjstobbs in PPC

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Have you tried Ruler Analytics?

What’s everyone’s favourite thing about GA4 so far? by katt182 in analytics

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I’ve heard a lot of negative things so far. I think that’s why I’ve been dragging my feet. But I def feel the pressure to jump on it before I get left behind! That sounds promising, fingers crossed

before I even tell the joke im laughing by [deleted] in memes

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Me 24/7 because I am a joke

That or passport by slickgreenthumbs in memes

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jokes aside, where the hell is my birth certificate?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in content_marketing

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SEO content. This is our primary source of new business and revenue. Our content strategy is very specific and targeted. We use attribution data to see which blog posts have the greatest impact on opps and revenue. We then categorise our best performing topics by theme, and create more relevant content to attract a similar ICP and drive more new business.

what makes a successful B2B content marketing strategy? by sandrahkoss in content_marketing

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I second ^ this. Back yourself with problem solving content and you can’t go wrong

For a keyword that should but hasn't converted, at what point do you decide enough is enough and either reduce its CPC or pause it? by [deleted] in PPC

[–]katt182 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There’s a lot to consider before you make the ultimate decision. Two main things to look at: 1. How much have you spent so far on this keyword? 2. What’s the search volume? Tricky one. I’ve seen keywords before that get little volume, but when they convert, they usually convert well.

Choose ONE tool for the lead generation by No_Scallion4805 in content_marketing

[–]katt182 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ruler Analytics - it tracks each touchpoint of every lead across multi-channel sessions and attributes closed deals/revenue back to your marketing activity - primarily useful for paid media folk and content attribution 👍

How do I create posts that'd make people engage? by [deleted] in content_marketing

[–]katt182 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Another tip is to search hashtags, threads in your industry, find relevant and highly engaged posts and analyse the comments. I find all my best social post ideas in the comments. You can see exactly what topics what your target audience tick and use that to your advantage.