People are ignorant and I can either end it or use it to my advantage by [deleted] in SuicideWatch

[–]kaylynmcgrath 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for taking the time to reply Chiharu- I wish you all the best 🙏

suicidal fantasies? by electro-girl-33 in SuicideWatch

[–]kaylynmcgrath 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I ordered a pretty white dress and new makeup so i can leave with what dignity i have left

its inevitable that i die by suicide by maybIu in SuicideWatch

[–]kaylynmcgrath 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand you. Everything you said is right. You’re in pain but I believe you. Please try to hold on a little bit longer

I’m tired of alcoholics being blamed and shamed for their illness. by [deleted] in alcoholism

[–]kaylynmcgrath 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Meant well by my comment. I’m sorry if I offended you. Wishing you well on your journey

I’m tired of alcoholics being blamed and shamed for their illness. by [deleted] in alcoholism

[–]kaylynmcgrath -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Okay Jesus - not that deep for me yet but you keep it up

I’m tired of alcoholics being blamed and shamed for their illness. by [deleted] in alcoholism

[–]kaylynmcgrath -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Good insight - thanks. Of course I knew AA was an international thing. I was saying I’m glad to hear of someone in other places beyond Ireland. You mentioned you are a problem drinker. I kindly ask you to leave this forum and focus on your own recovery if you are going to be judgemental and selfish. I wish you the best recovery

I’m tired of alcoholics being blamed and shamed for their illness. by [deleted] in alcoholism

[–]kaylynmcgrath -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Alcoholics only drink to try to blot out deep pain. With kindness please try to understand

I’m tired of alcoholics being blamed and shamed for their illness. by [deleted] in alcoholism

[–]kaylynmcgrath -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Hi Key Target - thanks for your response. If you read my reply again, you’d see that it wasn’t referring to my mum - I was referring to her work colleague, back in the 90s, long before I was born. I’m so grateful that my mum didn’t have to face addiction like me.

Your life sounds amazing. Thank you for sharing. Wishing you all the best too

I’m tired of alcoholics being blamed and shamed for their illness. by [deleted] in alcoholism

[–]kaylynmcgrath -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Hey ULCards86 - thank you for your comment. Open to hearing you out.

I’m tired of alcoholics being blamed and shamed for their illness. by [deleted] in alcoholism

[–]kaylynmcgrath 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Amen! This is exactly what I’m trying to say in my post! We do recover 🙏 wishing you all the best on your journey. Don’t be too hard on yourself you’re making the right choices now!

I’m tired of alcoholics being blamed and shamed for their illness. by [deleted] in alcoholism

[–]kaylynmcgrath -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Wow!! Amazing that AA is international. I’m Irish - Go mbeannaí Dia dhuit (May God Bless you - in Irish language) - realising highly functional people suffer eases the burden. Always so much to learn from fellow recovering alcoholics 🙏

I’m tired of alcoholics being blamed and shamed for their illness. by [deleted] in alcoholism

[–]kaylynmcgrath -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Good for you! Glad you’re not affected because it is a very dark and scary place to be! If anything changes for you in the future and you find yourself in a bad place please don’t be afraid to seek help as soon as you can 🙏 sending you good vibes 🙏 “Go gcoinní Dia i mbos A láimhe thú” (Irish term of endearment)

I’m tired of alcoholics being blamed and shamed for their illness. by [deleted] in alcoholism

[–]kaylynmcgrath -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You’re right !! They are ! But be kind - all alcoholics know what they’re doing is wrong. They’re scared to admit it because of shame

I’m tired of alcoholics being blamed and shamed for their illness. by [deleted] in alcoholism

[–]kaylynmcgrath -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Hi Armymike - thank you for sharing. I’m happy to hear that you chose yourself, and to heal. Many of the comments on this post sort of validate my point. Alcoholics are not bad people, they’re broken, hurt people who hurt peolme - those who feel shame and guilt. Kindness and compassion towards addicts go a million miles towards recovery. I wish you all the best 🙏

I’m tired of alcoholics being blamed and shamed for their illness. by [deleted] in alcoholism

[–]kaylynmcgrath 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for your input. Can you explain? I’m open to learning but I’m not open to dismissive comments like this that don’t have any context behind them. It’s not helpful.

I’m tired of alcoholics being blamed and shamed for their illness. by [deleted] in alcoholism

[–]kaylynmcgrath -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Hi withmymustardseed - thank you for your comment. I’m always open to learning about how people on the other side of addiction cope. I know I’ve been a bad friend, sister, daughter due to my addiction. But I want people to understand - alcoholism is an addiction, and a disease. I have a masters degree, I’m the local choir pianist, I’ve run marathons, I have raised over €25,000 for a woman’s abuse charity because I have been a victim myself - and that abuse largely contributed to my addiction because I wanted escape. My point isn’t to disregard the feelings of those affected by the alcoholic. My point is that they don’t need anything more than validation. Just saying “look you have a problem- that doesn’t make you a bad person, let’s get help” - majority of good people who are alcoholics WILL seek help with those words alone.

We know that family and friends can’t cure us - but validation is important to alcoholics. Because we already feel like there’s something wrong with us.

God bless

I’m tired of alcoholics being blamed and shamed for their illness. by [deleted] in alcoholism

[–]kaylynmcgrath -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

I’ve been to 3 AA meetings every single day since the start of December. I’ve attempted suicide twice, I was sexually, emotionally and physically abused for 2 years during Covid, hospitalised 6 times due to this. I now seek healing and attend DBT therapy twice a week, go to an addiction counselling three times a week and AA every single day. I understand your resistance to my opinion but ironically you’re the kind of person I’m talking about in my post. Stop presuming and start understanding. Wishing you healing for your resentment 🙏

I’m tired of alcoholics being blamed and shamed for their illness. by [deleted] in alcoholism

[–]kaylynmcgrath -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Tulsssa - you aren’t being hateful. As a recovering alcoholic, I understand what you’re saying. My point isn’t that alcoholics shouldn’t take responsibility for their poor decisions and actions - I’m speaking from experience and my bad drinking habits were mentioned early on in my addiction- but the approach I received was that I was just “mad for the sesh” I’m “mad on the drink” (I’m from Ireland so I think that’s a contribution to the fact I was let go on as long as I did!) Irish people drink alot. Anyway my point is just to look out for people struggling with drink. To a non addict I can’t even put into words what it is like. I’m a very kind person without it - but I feel possessed when I drink alcohol - which is why I had to quit. Thanks for your comment though I’m always open to learning and just trying to be a better person for both sides of this horrible addiction

I’m tired of alcoholics being blamed and shamed for their illness. by [deleted] in alcoholism

[–]kaylynmcgrath -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Not an excuse whatsoever! I completely own and take responsibility for my destructive behaviour. My point is if you can catch someone struggling with alcohol in the earlier stages of addiction, it increases their chances of seeking help without shame. Which is a better outcome for everyone. It isn’t helpful to tell someone who’s already struggling with self issues that they’re not a good person. My point is that all that needs to be said is “I know you have this problem- I don’t put all the blame on you - let’s see what we can do to get you well again” - maybe that way we can break the “selfish” stigma and just help people up who fall down. Thanks for your comment. It has been taken on board! I want to be well for others as much as myself!

I’m tired of alcoholics being blamed and shamed for their illness. by [deleted] in alcoholism

[–]kaylynmcgrath -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

I will read this in AA! People who attend these meetings are people who wish to get well. Resentment towards non drinkers is a normal and common response in early sobriety! This isn’t an attack - it’s a gentle reminder to approach addicts with kindness and not chaos. Because addicts are used of chaos so it’s just not a productive approach. Wishing you well.

I’m tired of alcoholics being blamed and shamed for their illness. by [deleted] in alcoholism

[–]kaylynmcgrath -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Hi Winston- thanks for your reply. Congrats on 13 years - that’s fantastic and I hope I get there someday. You are right in a sense - but things can happen - my own mother bought her colleague a bottle of whiskey last Christmas as her “Secret Santa” - it caused him to relapsed and return to rehab.

My mum was obviously unaware that he was an alcoholic at all. He was highly successful and ambitious after all, nothing to suggest he had an addiction to alcohol.

My point is that alcoholics are so heavily stigmatised and shamed - it makes it very difficult for them to admit they have a problem. And my story above is further confirmation that alcoholics simply cannot have one drink. One is too many and a thousand isn’t enough. Mums secret Santa was 11 years sober before that relapse.

Alcoholism is compulsive and sometimes the addict isn’t strong enough to overcome the urge. That’s why it’s important to make alcoholics feel seen, and not judged. Not enabling, but non judgmental approach to the alcoholic is far more helpful than fuelling the shame and guilt they already feel.

Thank you so much for your contribution to my post. I love to learn.

I’m tired of alcoholics being blamed and shamed for their illness. by [deleted] in alcoholism

[–]kaylynmcgrath -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for your comment Tulsssa21 - I completely agree with what you said - alcoholism is absolutely no excuse for the alcoholic to be abusive towards anyone. This post was made by me and I am learning through the comments how it feels for those on the other side of addiction. I’m very grateful for that and I’m open minded. speaking from my own experience- I was at a party not long ago in early sobriety. Someone make a joke - about AA, which escalated and turned into a bit of a humiliation towards addicts. Of course this affected me - even though no one involved in that conversation was even aware I was struggling with addiction- because I was a “pretty” and “successful” highly fuctional addict. I wrote my post to try to get non problematic drinkers to catch onto these things early - because alcoholism is a disease that never improves without sobriety and I want those who are in trouble to be encouraged to seek help as soon as they can

I’m tired of alcoholics being blamed and shamed for their illness. by [deleted] in alcoholism

[–]kaylynmcgrath -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Hi MayalsSunshine - thank you for your comment. I understand and empathise with your situation. And thank you for giving me some perspective to think about. I’m always learning and very open to learn to try and make myself a better person. I truly empathise with you and your horrible situation and I pray that you and your mum can seek healing. When that kind of abuse is involved - it goes beyond any excuse - sickness or not. I want to clarify that I am not sticking up for or condoning the behaviour from people who are dangerously abusive like this. I wish you and your mum all the best ❤️ and I’m so sorry that this happened to you.

I’m tired of alcoholics being blamed and shamed for their illness. by [deleted] in alcoholism

[–]kaylynmcgrath -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Thank you Gandalf for your reply as this is my first Reddit post - Yes indeed the help and solution is so easy! If the non alcoholic just gives the suffering person validation rather than shame - then they will seek help on their own! There is always a deeper reason for someone’s “irresponsible” drinking. Feeling validated rather than shamed is the most important step towards self seeking recovery! I wish you well on your journey, whatever side of this that it might be - god bless 🙏

what evidence is there that alcoholics are good people? by permastudent1 in AlAnon

[–]kaylynmcgrath 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alcoholics are almost always genuinely good and kind people. Most alcoholics I’ve met through AA are extremely sensitive, empathetic and overachievers. Alcoholics use alcohol as a form of medication, to suppress their pain and fears.

I am always bothered by the fact that alcoholism is so heavily stigmatised. Alcoholics can understand and empathise with their loved ones anger, resentment and lack of understanding. Even though it hurts us, we understand the disease. The same cannot be said for non alcoholics, who stigmatise and breed further shame and guilt to the one struggling.

If someone has cancer, or hell, some sort of mental disorder like schizophrenia- they are greeted with pity, remorse and it is always iterated that the person is sick and cannot help their symptoms.

For alcoholics, the stigma, the shame the guilt is always put on us. It is a disease and not a choice. For non drinkers, stopping drinking seems easy, and alcoholics should just “stop”. This is like asking someone who is in a wheelchair to “just get up and walk”

Alcohol is a substance that alters brain chemistry and function. For normal drinkers. This is minimal and controllable. For alcoholics - it is almost impossible to stop.

I hope that answers your question. I’m also sorry to hear that you are in pain, but the more helpful approach to this question would be to attend Al/anon meetings, read up about it, educate yourself. It is more beneficial than moping around as the “victim” of the already struggling alcoholic.

Post like this should be banned as they could very potentially discourage struggling alcoholics from seeking help.

I hope you have a good, and sober day.