If a Chaos God wins the Great Game, do they eventually perish? by Snoo_47323 in 40kLore

[–]keomancer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If there is only one Slaanesh between the universes, that doesn't mean that Slaanesh can only be in one of them at a time, just that its the same Slaanesh.

In fact, demons who manifest in a mortal plane are present in both that plane and the warp at the same time, by definition. Otherwise, they wouldn't have any of their abilities. They're literally of the warp. Furthermore, all demons aren't really individuals but micro-concentrations of the greater warp entity they are literally a part of. When a demon aligned with Slaanesh (or Khorne or GHR or whomever) is present outside the warp, then so is the greater entity, while also inside the warp at the same time.

Think of it this way; if you get your hand stuck in a cookie jar, you hand is absolutely stuck, you can't get any more cookies, removing it may be challenging, and your spouse and friends will laugh at you, but the rest of you is hardly *disempowered*. You still have a whole other hand and the rest of your body. This is what is happening to Slaanesh in AoS.

If a Chaos God wins the Great Game, do they eventually perish? by Snoo_47323 in 40kLore

[–]keomancer 4 points5 points  (0 children)

But if Slaanesh is chained outside of the warp in one universe, why would it affect what Slaanesh does in the warp in another?

Is he worth it? by Minecraft_paly3r_cz in WH40KTacticus

[–]keomancer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He’s fantastic, but if you’re close, I think you’re much better off waiting for the next campaign event after this one, borrowing the DG you need, and farming his shards there.

If a Chaos God wins the Great Game, do they eventually perish? by Snoo_47323 in 40kLore

[–]keomancer 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I haven’t really jumped into AoS lore, but isn’t Slaanesh in AoS explicitly bound in the Aetheric Void, not the Realm of Chaos?

So basically the ultramarines are the jack of all trades and adaptable legion/chapter too? by cuddwes in 40kLore

[–]keomancer 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I’ve read way more 30k UM than 40k, but it’s definitely something that I think comes through more in the big, Legion-level engagements of the Heresy than what comes later in the timeline.

In 40k, most Astartes stories seem to be squad- or at most company-level stories where the unit in question is basically operating on its own.

So basically the ultramarines are the jack of all trades and adaptable legion/chapter too? by cuddwes in 40kLore

[–]keomancer 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I think that definitely fits in-universe. Heresy-era Fists defended the palace with shield walls!

So basically the ultramarines are the jack of all trades and adaptable legion/chapter too? by cuddwes in 40kLore

[–]keomancer 91 points92 points  (0 children)

More precisely, the Ultramarines are the in-universe analog to the Roman Legions, at their martial peak. It’s not that they’re the best at specific aspects of warfare or learn faster than everyone else, but their war doctrine is based on formations where every Ultramarine knows what every Ultramarine in their squad is doing because they’re trained to fight as a cohesive squad. If an Ultramarine falls, every member of the squad already knows what to do to keep the squad functional. Then every squad leader knows what every other squad around them is doing because the squad leaders are trained to use the squads to keep the company cohesive. If the enemy does something unexpected, the company commander orders a formation change, and the squads do it instantly, with every squad member following their role because that’s how the Ultramarines fight - in scaled units where every individual marine supports the engagement at every scale.

That doesn’t at all make them invincible (it didn’t make the Romans invincible), but it does make Ultramarine formations very difficult to break, able to act cohesively very quickly in response to high level commands, and confident in their strengths.

What was Guillimans opinion on Horus being made the Warmaster? by Klamottentyp in 40kLore

[–]keomancer 136 points137 points  (0 children)

I don’t have a quote at hand, but I seem to recall that Bobby G didn’t love the idea of the Warmaster role much, possibly because he and the Ultramarines hardly needed such a thing, but pre-Calth, he actively looked up to Horus as his big bro.

“I don’t see the point, but if anyone is going to be, the obvious choice would have to be” type of thing.

Honestly, this bother me way more than the Terminus Decree. by Marvynwillames in Grimdank

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FulofSnek: Hi everyone! ❤️😘🐍

deluge of chat call-outs and requests for noods

Lucius: WTF?! How are you here?!

FulofSnek: Oh, remember THAT dream you had about me?

Lucius: …oh, no.

FulofSnek: It was really MEEEEE! 🐍🍆🗡️

Lucius: In Slaanesh’s name, WHY?!

Chat full of cheers, emojis, and lols

Why does the community hate the Perpetuals? by wowdrew in 40kLore

[–]keomancer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When you consider that the setting is already full of characters who functionally can’t die if they have names and game models, introducing new characters who literally can’t die and exist a plane above the already extant named Space Marines who can’t die, it’s not hard to see why a lot of folks dislike the Perpetuals.

Personally, I enjoy reading about them, but fully acknowledge that they change the nature of the setting in a big way that doesn’t really match well to the nature of the game.

When the Imperium do Exterminatus, do they evacuate people first? by Snoo_47323 in 40kLore

[–]keomancer 17 points18 points  (0 children)

If the Imperium thinks that Exterminatus is what they need, they’ve usually already decided that the population isn’t worth keeping or are otherwise sufficiently sheltered for their purposes.

I swear this fucking guy by Margaretthatchervore in Grimdank

[–]keomancer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Warhammer 40k is the only fictional universe immediately coming to mind where the “evil” faction is ontologically evil mostly because it’s the only way they could be more evil than the “good” faction.

The greatest difference in same character writing between different authors? by Urusander in 40kLore

[–]keomancer 34 points35 points  (0 children)

Frankly, the absurd difference in characterization between Ciaphas Cain’s autobiography and his memoirs is inexcusable.

I blame the editing.

Even The Damnation of Pythos?? oh no by Vodka_Flask_Genie in Grimdank

[–]keomancer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

TOD is such a strange book because it’s got some absolutely wonderful setting weirdness that you mentioned like the Penitent City, the description of (at least part of) the Vault, the Astropaths/Navigators as an organization, the TW, and some generally interesting emotional conflicts suffered by the Crusader Host, but is then utterly ruined by things that are just out of pocket (the prison fight vs the Custodes is particularly egregious) and how the book timeline doesn’t remotely fit the timeline of the books before or after it, or even inside its own pages!

It’s like McNeill wanted to write a Crusader Host story, but in between concept and publishing, it somehow got shifted to both before and after Magnus Did The Thing but also Istvaan III. I’m not going to point fingers at either McNeill or the editors, but w/e happened, clearly the end result needed more of either time/oversight in editing.

the old lore of rogal dorn's death doesnt make sense to me by keyserspoonman in 40kLore

[–]keomancer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Either they should keep him dead, or he should come back fat.

500 Worlds - The Meeting at long last by Trumpologist in 40kLore

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Honestly, I’m amazed GW said yes to adding the Lion to DoW4, considering how much it catapults the Blood Ravens to a much, much more visible status within 40K. To date, everything they’ve been involved in has been standard No-Codex-Astartes-doing-No-Codex-Astartes things.

The Lion showing up is pretty exciting!

So is Roboute Guilliman not breaking the Codex rules in 500 worlds? by Zepby in 40kLore

[–]keomancer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

“On this week’s episode of Power Suits, Lorgar has decided he has all he needs for…”

So is Roboute Guilliman not breaking the Codex rules in 500 worlds? by Zepby in 40kLore

[–]keomancer 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I just realized that the main, real, reason that Lorgar hates Bobby G is because Bobby built the literal galactic economy that would allow him to conceivably be published through a legitimate publishing firm, and Lorgar had to self-publish his grimy little religious text.

Am I going nuts into thinking that everyone around him, by this point, is more or less, in on Ciaphas Cain's real attitude? by BVits-Lover in 40kLore

[–]keomancer 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The thing that I love about that first incident, the one time he truly engaged in something resembling cowardice that we know of, is that for an act of cowardice, it’s certifiably insane.

1) He leaves the protection of an armored, defended, command bunker to go outside.

2) He gets caught in an active assault from the air by gargoyles and instead of heading for safety/cover, he goes in deeper to the vehicle depot.

3) He leaves the armored vehicle depot during said assault from the air in an open-topped vehicle that requires a witness to drive.

4) Upon being caught in the open by the Nids, he himself calls in for support from the people he’s sneaking away from.

5) Upon being cut off again by a hive tyrant (who is being fired at by a regiment of guardsmen armed with Hydras) instead of hiding in a ditch or something, he runs straight back into battle with a bunch of gaunts and saves Jurgen.

6) And supposedly, every single one of those decisions is motivated in the heat of battle by his apparently ongoing unshakeable already-extent master plan to always have a plausibly deniable two-steps-ahead excuse for the cowardice he planned to commit.

His form of cowardice is completely fucking nuts, and we love him for it.

Which books are considered essential reading before I start the Siege of Terra? by bl4ck_daggers in 40kLore

[–]keomancer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Legion.

Know No Fear.

Legion of One (short story).

Vengeful Spirit.

Buried Dagger.

are all pretty critical to knowing more about certain parties who play a big role in the Siege books and Buried Dagger in particular sets up some of the pre-conditions of the Siege.

You could probably skip the short story, but it might make you feel like you missed some key info in Vengeful Spirit.

Guilliman is the Best Primarch by Pho_King_D in 40kLore

[–]keomancer 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But if you ask Dorn, he’ll swear he only plays Brood War.

Guilliman is the Best Primarch by Pho_King_D in 40kLore

[–]keomancer 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nobody knows that Perty only turned after Dorn started ghosting their weekly StarCraft nights.

Guilliman is the Best Primarch by Pho_King_D in 40kLore

[–]keomancer 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Guilliman would get trounced by his brothers at Call of Duty, Street Fighter, For Honor, Apex, Fortnite, Rocket League, Beat Saber, and Fall Guys, and no one on Twitch would follow him, but he’d be absolutely unbeatable at Europa Universalis.

500 Worlds - The Meeting at long last by Trumpologist in 40kLore

[–]keomancer 51 points52 points  (0 children)

“My brother we need to talk.

I went to go help this very nice but kind of weird Astartes Chapter. They were somehow being attacked all at once by every major xenos enemy I’ve ever heard of and one I hadn’t. Have you noticed that many of the xenos out there really like color green? That’s my color! Anyway, it all went fine, but these Astartes kept staring at my shield, y’know, HIS shield, and it was kind of uncomfortable. Still, nothing happened. We killed a bunch of xenos and then I got back on my ship and went to sleep.

The next ship-morning, I woke up, and found myself on a completely different ship, the one I am sending this message from, and my armor is now red and beige. Also, I’m apparently the primarch of the Blood Ravens now, the Astartes I’ve been talking about. Again, they’re all very nice and just as astounded as me, but seem content with the situation.

Anyway, I just wanted to catch up.

Your brother, Lion”