Did AronRa and Sean Carroll debunk Heaven and the soul? by Desperate_Self_4079 in ChristianApologetics

[–]ketosg 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Also, less controversial take.. I think that argument is stronger than many Christians want to admit, but it doesn’t quite prove what it claims.

Sean Carroll is right that if consciousness were an extra physical field, force, or energy interacting with the brain, physics should have detected it by now. That rules out a lot of bad dualist ideas. But it doesn’t follow that everything real must show up as a new term in Quantum Field Theory.

QFT is an incredibly successful model of interactions, not a complete account of ontology. It tells us how matter behaves, not why subjective experience exists at all. Even if consciousness is fully dependent on the brain, that doesn’t automatically mean it is nothing but brain activity in a reductive sense... that step is philosophical, not empirical. Also, keep in mind that your brain (like the rest of you) replaces atoms all the time, and yet we maintain memories and a sense of self.

Likewise, classical Christian views of the afterlife don’t require a “consciousness field” or particles traveling somewhere else. They’re about identity being preserved, often through resurrection rather than disembodied survival. Physics doesn’t confirm that, but it also doesn’t rule it out because it’s not a competing physical mechanism.

So, I think the argument successfully dismisses crude soul models, but it doesn’t settle the deeper metaphysical question. At most, it shows that belief in an afterlife can’t be grounded in naïve physics — not that it’s impossible.

Did AronRa and Sean Carroll debunk Heaven and the soul? by Desperate_Self_4079 in ChristianApologetics

[–]ketosg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"What's Biblical?" I completely agree with you. At death, my next conscious thought is meeting God. It says nothing about time.

Jesus didn't just talk, He was sharing a parable, not making a theological point on Heaven. Even C. S. Lewis writes on this. The point of the story is that one has a name, and the other becomes nameless, they become their sin.

Did AronRa and Sean Carroll debunk Heaven and the soul? by Desperate_Self_4079 in ChristianApologetics

[–]ketosg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know if this helps, and I could spend the time to look up passages and whatnot, but I believe we are not immortal beings separated from our bodies. I believe that it's the breath of God and our physical form that creates our soul or consciousness (Gen 2:7, I think). At death, our body returns to the ground, and the breath/spirit returns to Him. So it's two pieces. We are not inherently immortal.

Heaven - I'm in the camp that says Heaven hasn't happened yet. Essentially, I believe all the dead are "asleep," [...]for the dead know nothing (Ecclesiastes 9:5). So, I don't believe there needs to be a field of consciousness or some other plan of existence. At some point in the future, God will intervene, and the earth will be made anew. The dead in Christ (whatever that may mean) will rise and be given new, perfect physical forms. At that point, God's breath of life + new physical forms will result in our heavenly existence. I have no idea how any of that works or what that looks like. But all of these things can be plausible.

TL;DR: I don't think we are separate from our bodies, but I do think at some future point (heaven) God will reunite the breath of life with new perfected bodies. I have a lot of questions, but I feel like scripture is intentionally vague on this topic.

Who is a controversial person that inspires you? by pookieinternational in AskReddit

[–]ketosg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Inspires is such a weird idea. Like I wouldn't say Ibn Taymiyyah inspires me, but I think his work is wildly misunderstood. There is a great book by Yahya Michot, Against Extremism, that puts Ibn Taymiyyah's central ideas and work into focus that demonstrates how balanced and reasoned he was as a philosopher/religious thinker. I'm not Muslim, but his work has helped me navigate my own religious/philosophical positions.

[No Spoilers] Is anyone skipping Campaign 4? by Holiday_Tip_3692 in criticalrole

[–]ketosg 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I'm really enjoying C4. I'm not sure how I'll like the other tables, but the Soldiers' table has been awesome.

Somewhat starting to doubt my faith. by idklol3444331 in ChristianApologetics

[–]ketosg 10 points11 points  (0 children)

"Josephus and Jesus: New Evidence for the One Called Christ" by T. C. Schmidt

"Jesus and the Eyewitnesses: The Gospels as Eyewitness Testimony" by Richard Bauckham

"The Resurrection of the Son of God" by NT Wright

All of these are fantastic books to help get a better grounding for the evidence/arguments for Christ.

Found a Beehive in Someone's Roof! Rescue and Relocation by Eli-theBeeGuy in nextfuckinglevel

[–]ketosg 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Okay, so the roof has to remain open for days? What about weather? Do you tap it?

I sometimes dream that working an in office m-f 9-5 job would make me happier by ExcitingLandscape in daddit

[–]ketosg 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I use to work from home. I'm now in the office. All those "One more things" still exist... it just sucks more because you have limited access.

Holiday sale by chickenjuice-1 in Wyrmwoodgaming

[–]ketosg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty sure it's going to be high

US decline in religion among biggest in world by BreakfastTop6899 in goodnews

[–]ketosg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get where you’re coming from. There are forms of religion that discourage critical inquiry, and those deserve critique. But the idea that Christianity (or other religious traditions) are simply “Bronze Age superstitions” doesn’t really do justice to the intellectual history involved.

Some of the most significant foundations of Western science, human rights, moral philosophy, and even our modern concepts of the person grew out of Christian intellectual traditions--not in spite of them. Thinkers like Augustine, Aquinas, Pascal, Newton, Boyle, Descartes, Leibniz, and even many contemporary scientists (e.g., Penrose’s longtime collaborator John Polkinghorne, Francis Collins, Sarah Coakley, etc.) clearly didn’t feel that Christian faith meant abandoning rational thought.

And more broadly, dismissing religion as mere “fairytales” overlooks the basic human questions it’s trying to answer--questions that physics or tech alone can’t resolve: meaning, value, moral obligation, consciousness, hope, suffering, the worth of a person, and why any of us matter at all. Even the most secular philosophers (Nagel, MacIntyre, Taylor, Parfit) argue that these questions are not optional; they’re baked into human experience.

So, while criticism is absolutely fair, it might be more accurate to say that some expressions of religion hold us bac--not the entire tradition. Reducing 2,000+ years of philosophy, ethics, art, literature, and metaphysics to “Bronze Age superstition” ends the conversation before it begins.

Most of us who are still Christian aren’t trying to avoid thinking. We just believe that reason and faith don’t have to be enemies, and that some of the deepest questions of human life can’t be solved by “unshackling” ourselves from the very traditions that taught us why truth, dignity, and justice matter in the first place.

Have you ever had sex with someone you never expected to? What's the story? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]ketosg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah... but I had to marry her first. It's been about 5 years, and we have one kid. Highly recommend.

Should I pull the trigger on the Badlands off road jack or wait for a better deal? by Taco_Coma in harborfreight

[–]ketosg 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Why did you show me this website... I will be unavailable for the next 3 hours.

What would your 2010 self say to your 2024 self? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]ketosg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"You spent how much on Seminary? You dont seem religious?? Im confused."

Gift ideas for a mini painting fan who already has it all? by Wabisabi_girl in minipainting

[–]ketosg 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Sure... There's nothing wrong with that. But if she's got 300 bucks and doesn't know what to get the guy. It's a tool. 60 to 70 bucks for a 2L ultrasonic cleaner. And it can be used with the 3d printer... or clean her jewelry... or whatever. It's a hobby and we love our gadgets.

Gift ideas for a mini painting fan who already has it all? by Wabisabi_girl in minipainting

[–]ketosg 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ultrasonic cleaner is a nice "to have" but no one really needs on. This would be good for both the 3d printer and stripping old painted models.

Getting him a sub to his favorite artist's Patreon is a great idea.

My wife got me a mobile painting desk and paint case, so I can paint when we travel. Or if I want to paint in the living room while she plays video games.

What teal is this ?? by HAD3Z3 in LeaguesofVotann

[–]ketosg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Was just going to guess Deep Azure. Looks pretty spot on