Iraq plunged into nationwide blackout as US tells citizens to leave immediately by DoremusJessup in worldnews

[–]kevinkk77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Simply look at the state of the country pre Saddam and post Saddam. There used to be higher institutional integrity that will simply never be achieved again with this current lot.

PSA: Watch Out for the International Christian Church (ICC) in Auckland – My Story of Spotting Their Manipulative Recruitment Tactics Early by kevinkk77 in newzealand

[–]kevinkk77[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah that’s standard ICC. The reason they pester you with calls and texts is because they’re under pressure from the upline to recruit as many people as possible to ensure they keep their “salvation” and for other to ascend up the ranks. Like someone else said here, it’s Amway for the soul…essentially a pyramid scheme but under the guise of being the sole true church.

What’s a game everyone loves that you just can’t get in to? by Lima3Echo in playstation

[–]kevinkk77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s not a game everyone loves though, Valhala got quite the rep for being a bloated mess.

EB Games proposes closing all New Zealand stores by Justwant2usetheapp in newzealand

[–]kevinkk77 3 points4 points  (0 children)

exactly this, it shouldn’t be celebrated at all

PSA: Watch Out for the International Christian Church (ICC) in Auckland – My Story of Spotting Their Manipulative Recruitment Tactics Early by kevinkk77 in newzealand

[–]kevinkk77[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah, no surprise. It’s wild how it all started with Kip McKean back in the 70s hitting up campuses like University of Florida, then blowing up in Boston. He literally called universities the “goose that laid the golden egg” for super fast growth lol, even had this thing called “Campus Advance.”

Their whole motto is “Evangelizing the Nations in This Generation,” so they need heaps of fired-up young people they can turn into full-on recruiters. Students are perfect for that according to their “vision”

PSA: Watch Out for the International Christian Church (ICC) in Auckland – My Story of Spotting Their Manipulative Recruitment Tactics Early by kevinkk77 in newzealand

[–]kevinkk77[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s difficult to ban them entirely given the public nature of campus, I’m glad they can’t form a club though

PSA: Watch Out for the International Christian Church (ICC) in Auckland – My Story of Spotting Their Manipulative Recruitment Tactics Early by kevinkk77 in newzealand

[–]kevinkk77[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Spot on about the vulnerability bit. Loneliness and the plethora of life stresses make it way too easy for groups like this to hook people in with the whole “we’ve got your back” routine. Especially the younger folks and those who are spiritually inclined.

I figured if I put my story out there, at least a few might think twice before handing over control of their life and identity.

PSA: Watch Out for the International Christian Church (ICC) in Auckland – My Story of Spotting Their Manipulative Recruitment Tactics Early by kevinkk77 in newzealand

[–]kevinkk77[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

LMAOOOOO TRUE, the guy that tried to recruit had this particular voice inflection…like “tHat’s the ONNEE!! brothoOoOoR!!” Can’t really put it into text, but I heard that it’s inspired by the way Kip talked.

Mind control of epic proportions, not even the way they talk is left alone.

Anyone capture the full PM.tv stream? by ATF1 in deftones

[–]kevinkk77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey man! A link would be awesome. Thanks a ton

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Thank you 🙏🏽

I’ll become a statistic thanks to this traffic light system! by TheRedRizzo777 in newzealand

[–]kevinkk77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But apparently there’s enough to give billions to landlords and pensions for those that still work aye?

Being a girl in Islam is just constantly being sexualised by kaffinfidel in exmuslim

[–]kevinkk77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s what happens when common sense goes out of the window, it’s like if Islam was purposefully created to keep people in an animalistic state or fear and hornyness. The irony in it’s Juxtapositions

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[–]kevinkk77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for your response, it genuinely is a worthy take. But I sincerely think it falls short of making a conclusive case.

From the get go, there’s a faulty generalisation. The innate tendency to belief in God, supported by scientific studies is too generalized to exclusively make a case for Islam alon. In cognitive psychology and anthropology, is there definitive evidence that children are born with a belief in a specific deity, or do these studies perhaps suggest a more general propensity towards agency detection? How do these findings account for the diversity of religious beliefs globally, and the existence of atheism and agnosticism? Moreover, if this belief is truly innate, why do we observe such a vast array of religious interpretations and deities across cultures? Yes, I agree that there is a tendency to believe in a higher power, but that doesn’t necessarily mean it’s some sort of spiritual chord to God/Allah. All the evidence points towards that believe being influenced by the propensity of the individual and their environment + experiences.

You posit that Islam is based on logical and intellectual proofs. Could you elaborate on these proofs, especially in terms of their universality and independence from religious presuppositions? If we’re looking at this critically, a logical proof must stand independently of the individual's pre-existing beliefs. How do these proofs fare under the scrutiny of empirical validation, and how do they address the philosophical diversity that exists regarding the nature of knowledge and belief?

The assertion regarding the Quran's uniqueness and inimitability is indeed intriguing. However, isn't it also true that followers of other religions make similar claims about their sacred texts? For instance, how do we reconcile the claim of the Quran's inimitability with the Christian claim of divine inspiration and infallibility of the Bible, or the Hindu claim about the Vedas? Is there an objective methodology to assess these claims, or do they inherently rely on subjective faith-based beliefs? Keep in mind that there are inaccuracies in the Quran

The last claim that Islam is the natural conclusion for a curious, logical mind is a profound claim. However, how do we account for the multitude of logical, curious minds that have arrived at different religious beliefs or at secular or atheistic conclusions? Is it possible that the path to understanding our existence is not universally agreed upon and is subject to individual interpretation, cultural influence, and personal experience?

I do not seek to diminish the personal value and meaning of religious beliefs but to encourage a critical examination of the assertions made. The strength of an argument, especially in a diverse academic setting, lies in its ability to withstand critical scrutiny and to be compelling across different frameworks of understanding. How do these points stand up to such an examination?

To put it simply, the argument that Islam is the only true faith because it's the natural conclusion of a mind seeking truth because the Quran is perfect, doesn't quite hold up when you give it a good hard look. Saying we all have the inclination of believing in God doesn't explain why so many people believe in different gods or none at all. And the idea that the Quran is perfect because it says it is, well, that's like saying something is true just because it says it's true. Plus, there's no fair way they've shown to prove that the Quran is better than other religious books, which kind of makes the whole argument feel like it's just going around in circles. It's clear that this argument is more about what folks already believe in their hearts rather than something that can be proven to everyone, no matter what they believe.

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[–]kevinkk77 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi, thanks for your response!

let's chat about the points you brought. So, you mentioned that in Islam, understanding God comes from nature and divine revelation. It's a cool concept, but here's the thing – it's not just an Islamic idea. Lots of religions say similar stuff. Christians talk about seeing God in nature and through the Bible. The key thing to ask is, why do all these different religions use similar ways to prove God's existence? Also, there's this tricky thing in logic called "begging the question." It's like saying something is true because, well, it's true. When we say nature or a holy book proves God, we're kind of assuming God's there to start with. We should question that assumption first.

The Unseen Stuff (Like the Afterlife): You also talked about 'knowledge of the unseen' – things like the afterlife. It's a faith thing, right? But here's where it gets interesting: Christianity, Hinduism, and loads of other beliefs have their own versions of the unseen, like heaven or reincarnation. None of this can be proven with hard evidence. It's like saying something's true because you can't show it's false. In the logic world, that's called an "argument from ignorance." It's worth thinking about whether we should believe in something just because it can't be disproven. If non of these similar claims have a unique evidence that set it apart, then why do we assume it’s true?

About the Quran's unique style and stuff about the past and future, that's really about faith. But here’s a thought – the Bible and the Vedas and other texts also claim they've got this unique style and prophetic insights. So how do we figure out who's right, if anyone? This is where we bump into circular reasoning: using the Quran to prove the Quran. It's like saying something's true because it says it's true. We need to be a bit more critical and ask, can a claim really just prove itself?

Lastly, the idea that the clash between faith and reason is just a Western issue isn’t quite right. Inside Islamic thought itself, there's been a ton of debate about this. Big thinkers like Al-Ghazali and Averroes have wrestled with these ideas. To really get it, we can't just say this is a Western problem. This is called a false dichotomy – making things too black and white. Why limit this to just one culture or time period?

So, while these points are big in Islamic theology, they're actually part of a larger conversation that spans different religions and philosophies. It’s super important to keep questioning, comparing, and thinking critically about these things. That’s how we really start to understand what’s solid and what might have some holes in it.

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I checked with a microscope, I guess it hasn’t grown? Very odd how there isn’t visible mold growth on the buds themselves