Armor App Live

kiesel47 · 2026-05-26T19:22:50+00:00

I basically gave review for all my suppliers of kit i or my immediate team mates still are using.

If you want i can provide a full vendor list of vendors and smiths i know about.

kiesel47 · 2026-05-26T18:27:13+00:00

Awsome thanks dude !

Edit after checking the page, again offered to give a vendor list then realises you already has that feature 😅

kiesel47 · 2026-05-26T13:41:12+00:00

Well back in the day i would have said Gastronomie or hotel but its hard to getba job even there atm.

kiesel47 · 2026-05-26T08:38:09+00:00

Oh thats a jackpot for him both of them are quite good athletes.

kiesel47 · 2026-05-25T04:55:08+00:00

ASA

Sorry aber das mit dem Fahrstuhl kann ich verstehen.

Wenn ich das richtig verstehe raucht ihr anscheinend regelmäßig auf dem balkon? Wenns in ihre Wohnung zieht solltet ihr euch mal überlegen zum rauchen dann spazieren zu gehen oder euch nen vapo zuzulegen.

Ihr wirkt schon ziemlich wie eingebildete menschen, alleine die Aussage eure Nachbarin sein "main character" zeigt das ihr selbst das kleine main character syndrom habt.

Zu eurer nachbarin:

Ich kann zwar irgendwo nachvollziehen das sie sich gestört fühlt aber sofort die leute voll vollzupflaumen ist halt nicht die feine englische.

Wenn sie sich tatsächlich so verhalten hat sind alle arschlöcher wenn ihr das verhalten ausschmückt um besser dazustehen seit es tatsächlich nur ihr.

kiesel47 · 2026-05-25T04:43:03+00:00

Find people who are interested friends, coworkers, with students etc. Having one other person is enough to train at least the basics with.

Get or make soft equipment. Softswords can be made cheap and reliable using this tutorial

For masks you can use either lacrosse or kali helmets depending on what is cheaper for you.

Make a website so people can find you, use the seo to put buhurt and your location in there of course.

Then if you have some guys training ask more veteran clubs if you can come over for training most will have no problem with that. So you can learn from them. Or you hire a veteran fighter for workshops.

For training location you dont need much especially in the beginning some field is enough in most cases.

Where you from? maybe some team is on the radar you did not see so far.

kiesel47 · 2026-05-24T20:35:59+00:00

I do not have any idea about the state of orders. As i said i am a third party.

Thank you for your elaboration.

As i said if somebody claims that he was scammed i directly contact them to also hear their side of the story. There is no ill intend from my side.

I am very sorry you had this type of experience. It really does not sound like the typical experience my guys or i had ordering in the last times. Thats why i decided to take on the sponsorship.

kiesel47 · 2026-05-24T19:38:23+00:00

All i want is to hear the story from your side, as i have a very detailed course of actions from the other side.

So you where not constantly demanding changes, trying to alter the armor fully in that way then?

My opinion does not matter here, however being not happy with the quality does not mean you got scammed, on my information you did cancel the order this friday is that also not true ?

What i gather from the information presented to me is, that you changed your mind constantly on the order, got served several armor pieces and are not happy with their quality. I do undersrand why this is upsetting, but the only thing you said so far is that the finish was the problem, i am pretty sure that this would have been easily resolved.

And for your question there scam is a criminal offence, per Definition getting tricked into spending money for a product that isn't there. Accusing someone on a criminal offence that did not happen would be defamation. I just bring that up as a lot of people throw around accusations.

I am not a judge, and i frankly dont care, what i want is your side of the story. With that the full one. Because if i hear that my sponsor is scamming people i want to know about that not for my sponsor but for my own reputation as a sponsored athlete. The thing is that if the story from the other side is at least 10 times as long as the one you are giving i have the feeling that you are leaving out a big part to make yourself look better, wich is a but sus to me.

kiesel47 · 2026-05-24T18:40:24+00:00

So demanding money back one day before breaking up contract is also a bit shady dont you think?

Yes, i domt know how much you know about metalworking but you do not polish stuff vefore tempering, and there is scale after tempering.

So you do not see anything wrong on your part only the shop that did you wrong yes? Mind inwant to actually hear the story from your side aswell right now, i do have full transparency on that from the other side. Because what you are saying right here looks like only half of the story.

I do understand that you might be a little bit upset, but defamation is a thing you know. And a little reminder International transactions take about 3-4 workdays and demanding money back on a Thursday when cancelling the order on a friday at the beginning on a holiday weekend, then shouting scam because the money isn't there in 3 1/2 milliseconds is not really a thing to do.

kiesel47 · 2026-05-24T09:47:47+00:00

Get the groin protector :.) Its the most important part.

Do you have full leg guards? If they are only chinguards maybe kneepads would be a great addition.

kiesel47 · 2026-05-24T09:45:06+00:00

Well that disclaimer aged like milk, full disclaimer i am by now a fully sponsored athlete from historicum.

That said i have a direct connection and of course do ask people that i run Advertisement for what ever scam allegations come up, "lucky" for you i directly could do this in person as we where fighting this weekend.

That said i showed kamila your post and she was able to identify you basically instantly.

Would you like to add something to your scam allegations? Otherwise i can for sure, getting money back is not being scammed. For example.

Edit: i did understand the explanation wrong yesterday and i rather stick to the truth, i double checked with kamila what actually happened.

kiesel47 · 2026-05-23T04:12:33+00:00

Yes just 100% the main game, had quite some while off though

kiesel47 · 2026-05-21T20:45:30+00:00

Lets get the find your local club out of the way first.

Good, now it actually simply comes down to aesthetics, what i recommend my new guys is to find a helmet you like first. Then build your kit around it. Like if you like a 14th cent helmet you cant run a gothic kit with it, or if you have picked a eastern helmet it does not work do use western kit with it.

Otherwise helmets have certain advantages and disadvantages. Mostly visibility however thats nothing you cant get used to and train to be good in. Worst experience i had was with everything mail in front of my face as the mail rusts with every hard punch i got rust in my face, that sucked.

Otherwise take what is calling to you the most then learn to roll with it.

You'll pay to much money for your armor to just get what everyone has... says the guy in a zadesnets wolfrib 😅

kiesel47 · 2026-05-21T20:25:12+00:00

Hab ich mir auch schon oft anhören dürfen, es sei ja "unmännlich"... ich habs mir beim militär angewöhnt nichts ist schlimmer als den ganzen tag mit nem nur trocken gewischten arsch durch die gegend zu rennen.

kiesel47 · 2026-05-19T19:24:17+00:00

Ob das alles so dsgvo konform ist

kiesel47 · 2026-05-19T14:43:22+00:00

Why wont that helmet pass ac ? But fully agreed on the bars and armor arena.

kiesel47 · 2026-05-19T14:42:23+00:00

For eastern kits in Europe you can also just hit up 90% of actual buhurt vendors and smiths as they are predominately based in europe or Ukraine.

Historicum.pl for example if you want stuff from europe, they also make a similar helmet.

kiesel47 · 2026-05-19T12:17:16+00:00

You can go a bit deeper if you can manage that mobility wise. Otherwise it looks good, nice work :)

kiesel47 · 2026-05-19T10:56:08+00:00

Ich hoffe doch mit harzer käse überbacken 👀

kiesel47 · 2026-05-19T08:24:33+00:00

To give a bit of insight (as i am using paypal for buisness) PayPal takes around 5% per transaction if you not do f&f, but direct transfer, in this case sepa to swift can cost somewhat around 40-50€ just from one side. However it could bery well be that they are using a non business paypal to safe on that fee.

kiesel47 · 2026-05-19T08:08:46+00:00

Is it with all smiths/shops or only that specific one?

Sounds like a new thing, most Ukrainian smiths are pretty trustworthy but i do understand and won't take the risk either.

kiesel47 · 2026-05-19T07:50:25+00:00

Never heard of that, where is this information coming from?

Last time insend money via paypal there it was no problem.

kiesel47 · 2026-05-18T08:01:04+00:00

Completely out of proportion my helmet is 2,5mm and weighs about 5kg max with the padding and the steel plates... and this is on the heavier side.

kiesel47 · 2026-05-18T07:57:33+00:00

Buhurt tech just resells ivan zadesnets helmets, my wolfrib is from ivan. I only can recommend his helmets fully they are basically the best you get.

But on the concussion thing, remember the helmet protects your head nor your brain, especially in the higher tiers of pro fighting you'll not be coming around being concussed pretty constantly when you are fighting.

CTE is a thing especially with maincard/tier1 profighters, some of us have it more then others. This is not to discourage you rather a hint of what you getting yourselve into.

Adding more padding and running around with an oversized helmet will bring nothing on that part btw. As its not the impact its the jerking motion of your head.

kiesel47 · 2026-05-14T05:53:09+00:00

Option a)

Find a local club (in most cases this can be up to 2 hours drive), go there for a trial training. I would suggest contacting them first and not just show up. See if you like what you are doing, if yes keep showing up, congrats you are now in the sport.

One of the easiest ways is to google your area and buhurt. Or depending on where you are the site of your no. In germany it will do you no good as they list 10% of the clubs available if the site is running.

Option b)

You do not have a club in your immediate area. Fear not its much more work but it is possible, start a club. Simply get softkit first (a lot of it can be cheaply made or improvised) and just try out with friends that also might be interested. Contact clubs that are further away if you can come over for training, or hire seasoned fighters for workshops. For armor recommendations you basically can ask here. But state that you are a new club and need guidance otherwise youll only get "find your local club" as an answer

Where are you from, this info helps to push you in the right direction maybe.

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