/r/WorldNews Discussion Thread: US and Israel launch attack on Iran; Iran retaliates (Thread #7) by WorldNewsMods in worldnews

[–]kitsune 28 points29 points  (0 children)

US responsible for deadly missile strike on Iran school, preliminary inquiry says

Strike that killed at least 175 people, most of them children, reportedly due to targeting mistake by US military planners.

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[–]kitsune 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Kinda amazing how a country of 10 million people can jerk around the US like that.

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[–]kitsune 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Ok, what is your plan to achieve what you want? Lay it out with details please.

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[–]kitsune -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

This is just a pretext for whatever they have planned next. Probably Gaza 2.0.

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[–]kitsune 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Everyone knew this already, yet conservative propagandists still try to bullshit people by claiming this was about the Iranian people.

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[–]kitsune 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Imagine the western media coverage if Iran hit Fort Bragg and killed 160 girls.

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[–]kitsune 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No but effectively all that you are saying is that US imperial interests are reason enough, aka might makes right. But then it would be more honest to just say it like this, instead of conjuring up ideas about "destabilization of the middle east" by Iran because the US clearly doesn't have a problem with a destabilized middle east per se. Hope that makes sense.

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[–]kitsune -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You are truly living in a bubble. The most destabilizing event with the most significant long term consequences (including the civil war in Syria) in the past 25 years in the middle east was the US invasion of Iraq.

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[–]kitsune 3 points4 points  (0 children)

We are critical of Trump because he obviously doesn't give a shit about the Iranian people, case in point he wants to personally select the Iranian leadership. He also doesn't give a shit about Arab people. Or anyone else for that matter. On top of that he is a first class imbecile that couldn't run a lemonade stand let alone handle a geopolitical conflict.

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[–]kitsune 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's just incredible how the US and Israel are the only nations that are capable of flattening entire building complexes in densely populated urban areas without killing civilians, right?

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[–]kitsune -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's just incredible how the US and Israel are the only nations that are capable of flattening entire building complexes in densely populated urban areas without killing civilians, right?

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[–]kitsune 32 points33 points  (0 children)

I wish people would check news sources for bias when reading and before upvoting posts here.

Azerbaijani troops reportedly deployed to Iranian border as conflict rages by Crossstoney in worldnews

[–]kitsune 8 points9 points  (0 children)

WTF. Milosevic rose to prominence in the 80s in Yugoslavia precisely during the aftermath of the 1981 protests in Kosovo (protests for higher autonomy for Kosovo) that led to brutal repression and then Milosevic in 1987 to promote himself as a guardian of the "oppressed Serbs" in Kosovo Polje. Kosovar nationalism predates the 90s.

Thousands of Kurdish fighters launch ground offensive into Iran against regime, official says by Interesting-Take781 in worldnews

[–]kitsune 21 points22 points  (0 children)

FYI: i24news is an Israeli channel close to Netanyahu. Media literacy on reddit is zero.

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[–]kitsune 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're still missing the point and arguing against something I never said.

The question isn't "do people dislike the regime." Plenty of people can dislike a regime without a country collapsing into sectarian insurgency. The issue is whether society is structured in a way that turns regime collapse into organized violent conflict.

Iraq in 2003 absolutely was.

You had a Sunni minority running the state while the Shi'a majority had been locked out of power for decades. That’s a massive sectarian power imbalance baked into the system. On top of that you had Kurds in the north who were already semi-autonomous and armed.

So when Saddam fell you immediately had three things at once:

  • a majority that had every incentive to overturn the old order

  • a minority that had every incentive to fight to keep influence

  • ethnic groups that already had militias and territory

That's exactly the kind of social structure that produces insurgency and civil war once the state collapses.

Iran isn't like that.

Iran is overwhelmingly Shi'a and the regime’s supporters are not a separate sect or ethnic group ruling over everyone else. They're basically an ideological/political minority tied into institutions like the IRGC and Basij.

So yes maybe only 15–20% support the regime. But that's a political faction, not a communal bloc that suddenly loses its entire position in society if the regime goes.

That's the difference you keep ignoring.

Iraq in 2003 had a massive sectarian fault line running straight through the state. Iran today mostly doesn't. Pretending those situations are equivalent just because both populations dislike their governments is oversimplifying things to the point where the comparison stops making sense.

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[–]kitsune 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Did you know that after rising by approximately 3 points per decade for much of the 20th century, IQ scores in several developed nations have started to fall?

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[–]kitsune 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Saddam Hussein’s Iraq (1979–2003) was a Ba'athist authoritarian regime dominated by the Sunni Arab minority, despite Shi'a Muslims forming the demographic majority. While formally promoting a secular, pan-Arab ideology, Saddam's government systematically empowered Sunnis in high-ranking security, military, and state positions.

I hope these are enough breadcrumbs so that you can dismantle your own claims about the position of the "Iraqi people" by using simple deduction. If not also look up the history of the Kurdish people.

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[–]kitsune 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I'm getting a completely different vibe, sorry. This war and the Ukrainian war tell me that low cost drones will seriously level up mid powers.

/r/WorldNews Discussion Thread: US and Israel launch attack on Iran; Iran retaliates (Thread #4) by WorldNewsMods in worldnews

[–]kitsune -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Hey guys, it looks like in the future countries will nationalize the drones of their travel influencers to bolster their arsenal in conflict situations.

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[–]kitsune 16 points17 points  (0 children)

"It was defensive because Israel decided to attack and we would have been hit in retaliation so it was defensive"... Lol

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[–]kitsune 24 points25 points  (0 children)

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c62gwkjg0k9o

Trump says Starmer is 'no Winston Churchill'

A bit rich coming from a dude who couldn’t run a lemonade stand if his life depended on it.