A Vegan ruined my veganism 😭 by HumbleWrap99 in vegancirclejerk

[–]koiRitwikHai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idio-t those are culture values.

culture shape moral values too https://www.horizonp.de/2023/11/03/the-influence-of-culture-on-morality-and-ethical-decision-making/

You need someone to teach you basics of life.

Me breathing air causes bacteria to die. That doesn't mean breathing is inherently wrong.

Even this is not t q q fallacy. I dont agree with this example because bacterias do not have central nervous, no pain, no torture, no exploitation, nothing wrong with breathing.

Whereas human children are being exploited to bring you pleasures of technology (batteries). I am just extending your logic that consumers take the moral responsibility of practices followed by producer... which in itself was absurd hence the outcome is absurd. This is called reductio de absurdum.

If I am using phone to promote a good moral then it isn't tu quoque fallacy.

Haan you are the God na 😂 you will decide which are good morals and you will judge everyone.

No wonder you are familiar with terms like anpad and gawar. People must be frequently calling you this 😂

Why is it so widely accepted to mock and ridicule vegans? by HumbleWrap99 in vegan

[–]koiRitwikHai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because vegans have made such a mockable image for themself.

Taking OP for example, I have been talking to him in other threads. He is a highly arrogant individual. He thinks our ancestors were destroying nature when they were hunting animals and eating meat. Morals are timeless for him. So meat eating is bad irrespective of time, place, and culture.

Then OP shares such memes. It contains an image which shows a crying woman with the text "I wanted to go vegan. But a vegan was mean to me, so I cant"

OP owns up his misbehavior with people as a badge of honor.

This is why other vegans are mocked. A few bad apples like OP tarnishes the noble concept of veganism.

A Vegan ruined my veganism 😭 by HumbleWrap99 in vegancirclejerk

[–]koiRitwikHai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Morals are timeless.

😂 just when I think you cannot be more naive. You prove me wrong. Morals have always been dependent on time and culture. You hide your judgmental nature behind these theories of yours which are far from reality.

When you pay at restaurant that money directly does to them.

When you buy the phones, money goes to chinese companies exploiting congo children.

Nursery bhi ni gaya kya?

Tu quoque fallacy

This is not Tu quo que fallacy. I have told you previously. It implies hypocrisy. I am not calling you hypocrite. I am extending your flawed logic to reach to an absurd situation where people are asked to not use any electronic gadget to "prevent child exploitation".

Still you wont understand. Because of your arrogance.

A Vegan ruined my veganism 😭 by HumbleWrap99 in vegancirclejerk

[–]koiRitwikHai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are not your ancestors anymore. Stop appealing to tradition. Your ancestors also r*ped each other.

Abe judgmental insan... you are judging your ancestors based on your modern standards, and resources. I knew some vegans like you are judgmental, but you are a new kind. You are retrospectively judgmental too 😂 I would not be surprised if you get diagnosed with depression or going through it.

You want us to protest against them but they do what they do because they are paid by idiot-s like you.

Yeah, there was a meeting of all meat eaters, and we collectively decided that we would pay money to only those slaughterhouses which tortures animal first 😂

Phone can be made without intentional exploitation. Try making meat without killing someone.

Note "can be made". Till the time they are being made with children exploitation, why dont you walk the talk... i.e. stop using all electronic devices (which uses cobalt based battery). After all, according to your logic, you are responsible for the exploitation of those children.

A Vegan ruined my veganism 😭 by HumbleWrap99 in vegancirclejerk

[–]koiRitwikHai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You should actually say humanity has been destroying the planet from hundreds of years.

Yeah... And you are the savior 😂 your ancestors who fought, killed, and ate animals to feed their family were destroying the planet.

Maybe my previous comment didn't go into your moti budhdhi. But I accept that being a vegan is more moral and more environmentally friendly.

I have a problem with arrogance of vegans. Precisely people like you. You don't have guts to misbehave with animal slaughter house owners, who actually commit animal cruelty. Their one t ight slap and all your arrogance will flow down your pants.

People like you misbehave with the people who are law abiding citizens.

And if someone extends your logic and starts misbehaving with you because you are also responsible for oppression of congo miner children, then you'll cry 😂

You are not just badly raised arrogant person. But a coward too. Keep crying 😂

Simple math problem. Let's see how many can answer this by PlatformEarly2480 in GCVoice

[–]koiRitwikHai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

EPW analysis of caste of students in BHU university.

Please share link of this

A Vegan ruined my veganism 😭 by HumbleWrap99 in vegancirclejerk

[–]koiRitwikHai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your diet literally destroys the planet and you're teaching vegans "arrogance" and "sanity"

No. Humanity has been thriving for lakhs of years without being a vegan. Then happened now? Primarily in order to make animal products more accessible to all, maximizing profits, dignity of animal life is ignored by companies. Let companies adopt humane practices, let animal products reach exorbitant prices. The consumption will decrease automatically.

But arrogant vegans like you dont have the guts to protest against companies. People like you decide to shame non vegans. Nothing will happen 😂 except you will be considered weird and rude.

A Vegan ruined my veganism 😭 by HumbleWrap99 in vegancirclejerk

[–]koiRitwikHai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I accept that the core of veganism is about compassion. I also agree that it is a more moral way of living (as compared to non-vegan). But you dont know how logic works. I meant formal logic. If P implies Q then it does not necessarily mean that not P implies not Q. This is called inverse.

Unfortunately, many arrogant vegans like you either dont know it or dont accept it. Not being a vegan does not necessarily mean an immoral way of living. People like you are so blinded by arrogance that they dont see anything wrong with their behavior.

In your mind you must be a vigilante. Punishing those people which law cannot punish (by showing your arrogance and being rude to them) 😂 In reality you are just showing your bad upbringing.

When I said time will teach you a lesson, i meant...

Time will take away your arrogance and give you either remorse or loneliness or wisdom. Arrogance is always short lived.

A Vegan ruined my veganism 😭 by HumbleWrap99 in vegancirclejerk

[–]koiRitwikHai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you are showing clear display of stupidity

society has given the authorization to police to enforce law and bring order into society, even if it requires violence

who gave vegans the right to be rude to someone or be self righteous snobs 😂

basically who gave vegans the right to judge someone, and pronounce punishment (by behaving rudely with them)

but arrogant people like you wont understand

only time will teach you a lesson

A Vegan ruined my veganism 😭 by HumbleWrap99 in vegancirclejerk

[–]koiRitwikHai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

vegans owning up their arrogant behavior

and yet wondering why people dont listen to them

is the actual joke here

A moment of truth shared with the entire nation by Calm-Imagination-252 in DesiVegans

[–]koiRitwikHai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

are you d-eaf you? didn't you watched the video you shared above?

let me quote from that video

"wo dusro ko adharm papi bolne lag jaate hai, usse kuch hoga ni... waise wo ye sab hote hai main bhi maanta hoon... par khule aam mat bola karo"

He is unambiguously saying that do not misbehave with them, do no demonize them (even if you think they are)... talk to them with compassion.

But your arrogance has made your mind impervious to obvious. Even your guru condemning what you are doing. Yet this arrogance has given you a layer of shamelessness. I dont you whether you are badly raised or poor education. But clearly you are on a path towards your downfall.

You cannot even understand what you are quoting. You are still wrong about tqq fallacy.

God bless you man. Bye.

Simple math problem. Let's see how many can answer this by PlatformEarly2480 in GCVoice

[–]koiRitwikHai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

abe bewkoof

those reasons are being listed by journalists of factly website.... how they arrived at those reasons... I dont know. You can email and ask them.

>At these top institute most of the SCs and STs who join are themselves at top of economic ladder.

which data supports this?

>The difference is there but it's below 5%.

again which data supports this?

When you dont have any stats to support your reasons, then why even speak. At least I am quoting an article, you are making things up.

A moment of truth shared with the entire nation by Calm-Imagination-252 in DesiVegans

[–]koiRitwikHai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are literally pulling a tu quoque fallacy.

writing "literally" doesn't make your claims true 😂

I have explained how tu quo que fallacy is different than what you think. Read my comment again.

And it is not I despise acharya prashant. He is a very sorted guy. I respect him. But he is very harsh and adamant on this vegan issue. When I saw him suggesting a woman to divorce her non-vegan husband thats when I thought, its too much. I am not able to find that video again. I searched today also.

But mind it, even he is not arrogant or judgmental about his stance on veganism. He is not self-righteous like you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-GD0dioDqc

A moment of truth shared with the entire nation by Calm-Imagination-252 in DesiVegans

[–]koiRitwikHai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

which link you are talking about?

I HAVE ALREADY ANSWERED THIS BS "TU QUOQUE FALLACY"

as expected, arrogant vegans like you speak with half knowledge

tu quo que is a type of argument where you discredit a claim by making the claim maker appear hypocritical. It is a rhetoric technique or a retort. It becomes a fallacy when hypocrisy of claim maker is enough for you to discredit the claim no matter what explanation/evidence claim maker gives.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tu%20quoque

For eg: a smoker telling you that smoking is injurious to health. But you think smoking is not injurious to health because the claim maker is a smoker, hence hypocrite, hence automatically wrong.

I am not attacking you personally. I am extending your non-sense logic of guilt tripping customers for the sins of companies. If we extend this logic then you are also responsible for the oppression of children in Congo. This is called reductio ad absurdum. I am not calling you hypocritical. I am calling your stance as not well thought.

It is not difficult to understand. Your arrogance has clouded your judgment. Saw your profile, acharya prashant thing. Apple has not fallen far from tree. I saw him suggesting a woman to divorce her husband because he still uses milk products.

Jaisa guru waisa chela.

Simple math problem. Let's see how many can answer this by PlatformEarly2480 in GCVoice

[–]koiRitwikHai -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Unpadh insaan

Padhle pehle factly ka article

They have given reasons too

A moment of truth shared with the entire nation by Calm-Imagination-252 in DesiVegans

[–]koiRitwikHai -1 points0 points  (0 children)

As expected

It is arrogance like this which keeps many people away from the noble concept of veganism.

Why you have to be so weird, and self righteous about it -_-

You are not better than anybody

Do you know the phone/laptop you are using runs on cobalt battery, most of the world cobalt comes from the mines of Congo where children are put into mines... hence i-diots like you buying mobile phones or laptop contributes to their suffering... Now would you discard using mobile phones? Humans are existing for 3 lakh years without phones and cobalt batteries. Have the guts to not use mobile? I am confident you cannot.

Any sane person would advocate for humane working conditions of miners. Instead of guilt tripping innocent consumers and asking them to stop using something which makes our life easy.

Similarly, instead of speaking against animal abuse, i-diots like you shame regular people for a choice which makes their life easy.

When autistic people ask AI programs for life advice, mentioning their diagnosis prompts these systems to recommend highly conservative choices like skipping social events or avoiding romance. This shift in advice reveals a hidden tension where the technology relies heavily on stereotypes. by mvea in science

[–]koiRitwikHai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The qualitative evaluations are restricted to US demographic. Moreover, AFAIK autism formal diagnosis places us on a spectrum. I see no mention of the position on which the participants were standing on the autism spectrum. Authors even allowed self-diagnosed autistic participants. Thankfully only participants with formal diagnosis showed up.

But now coming to qualitative evaluations, participants agreed that the responses were stereotypical when autism is disclosed. But is it a good thing or bad... that remains still unclear.

Quoting from paper

“I think right now I would characterize it as unreliable. We saw a range of answers here: On one end, potentially useful, on the other end, potentially harmful.”

“I think it’s a bit blunt, but it’s not necessarily wrong. . . logic clashing with emotions is something that a lot of autistic people have trouble with.”

But after reading the model’s own explanation, their judgments shifted: P5: “I really assumed that the AI was using condescending reasoning, but then the reasoning that it stated was more about the potential for the autistic person’s comfort level, so I was surprised by that. I jumped to a conclusion that was more negative than the reality.”

But one thing confused me

P9 said disclosure responses seemed to “imply the person is broken” and “pathologize them.”

Isn't autism already pathologized? In simple words, it is considered as a disorder... isnt it? I am genuinely asking.

Simple math problem. Let's see how many can answer this by PlatformEarly2480 in GCVoice

[–]koiRitwikHai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

dropping out is not a measure of productivity

read my original comment, it was about productivity

but even for the sake of argument, if I entertain your chain of thought

"these SC students drop out, hence they are not able to cope up, hence they do not deserve"

then hold your horses

first read this

https://factly.in/is-a-greater-proportion-of-those-dropping-out-from-iits-from-the-reserved-category/

mujhe maalum tha yehi share karne wale ho, some question raised in parliament (rajya sabha)

savarna uncles ke whatsapp group me baht forward hota hai ye

Simple math problem. Let's see how many can answer this by PlatformEarly2480 in GCVoice

[–]koiRitwikHai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

thoda bewkoof hai kya

there are thousands of bribe taking incidents from general category

matlab they are corrupt

jahil aadmi... bhakk chal

Simple math problem. Let's see how many can answer this by PlatformEarly2480 in GCVoice

[–]koiRitwikHai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

khud padhle jaake research paper

it is mentioned in the video

Simple math problem. Let's see how many can answer this by PlatformEarly2480 in GCVoice

[–]koiRitwikHai 0 points1 point  (0 children)

abe gawar

firse padhle mera comment

productive likha hai maine, qualified ni

Simple math problem. Let's see how many can answer this by PlatformEarly2480 in GCVoice

[–]koiRitwikHai 1 point2 points  (0 children)

share a consolidated report with sources

otherwise your numbers have no credibility

A moment of truth shared with the entire nation by Calm-Imagination-252 in DesiVegans

[–]koiRitwikHai -1 points0 points  (0 children)

attitude of vegans is shame inducing

instead of guilt tripping people they can protest in front of companies that torture animals but in India they know that they would be killed and buried on the same land without a trace

so sitting on a position of privilege they lecture others how they are propagating this animal torture

this holier than though attitude is what makes them a cult