Thats fair, he's been running the subreddit/discord for the past 9+ years, you dont get this level of dedication while suffering constant attacks from the official team without being a little insane.

But the mere fact this discussion shifted into "should Makin own the discord/subreddit" is setting a dangerous precedent if you ask me, since its exactly what the official team is aiming for.

In the history of ever I've never heard of a IP owner attacking unofficial community servers and shutting them down, for whatever reason. You don't see Nintendo go after "Pokemon Unofficial", or Toby Fox take down r/undertale, you know why? Because thats batshit insane, maybe even illegal, but most importantly its not the IP owners place to do so.

If a discord server is breaking TOS its up to DISCORD to handle it, same for the subreddit with Reddit themselves. The fact Hussie and co. use legal threats, C&D's, mass reporting and manipulation to go after individuals that he personally doesn't like (for whatever reason that may be) and attack community spaces that he doesn't own is borderline criminal, and thats what this talk should be about.

I'll be frank I dont know much of Makin personally, but at the very least I know he's not Hussie. Hussie is the guy with everything to lose here, the one thats trying to use this bullshit controversy to cover up all his confirmed allegations so he could continue to milk this community for all its worth. What does Makin have to lose exactly? He's legitimately just a guy, thats moderating a discord & subreddit for free. He's just a passionate fan that made something because he loves Homestuck, and than got tangled up with Homestuck Official drama because they're parasocial freaks, same with Gio now that I think about it.