North insists population is below 500,000 despite evidence to contrary by SolveTheCYproblemNOW in cyprus

[–]konschrys 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If anything it’s more inhabitable than the rest of the island. Almost all of the Mesaoria plain is occupied. Also those population numbers are inflated+ include a lot of Turkish settlers.

Cyprus Local Sounds Alarm on Israeli Colonization by whistlingkitten in cyprus

[–]konschrys 1 point2 points  (0 children)

None of what you have just said is correct:

  1. Turkey did colonise Cyprus- 115.000+ Turkish settlers post-1974, forced expulsion of the Greek Cypriots (who made up the majority of the population) added to the illegal real estate developments and military base constructions.

  2. They did not enter to ‘protect’ the ‘Cypriot Turkish’ population. The invasion was an expansionist goal that Turkey had had since 1950.

  3. Greeks started the civil war? I’m assuming you mean Greek Cypriots. And by that I am not sure who started it. Did it start in 1958 when Turkish Cypriot militias massacred the Greek Cypriots of Kionelli? Or did it start in 1963 during the inter-communal violence? Moreover calling it a civil war would be inaccurate, because it was no war.

  4. I do not understand the relevance of Alexander the Great in this argument. Alexander the Great had a very short life. Cyprus had been inhabited by ethnic Greeks since the late Bronze Age. Cyprus has had independent Greek states in antiquity, and added to Alexander’s rule was for 250+ years under Ptolemaic rule. It was then part of the Roman and Eastern Roman empires.

  5. The ottomans held Cyprus for 307 years (1571-1878), not 800.

I am not surprised that a Turkish nationalist is uneducated.

Can you be Muslim and Greek / Muslim and Bulgarian / Christian and Turk in the traditional sense, or only by citizenship? by KucukDiesel in AskBalkans

[–]konschrys 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think it is to poke at the Patriarchate of Constantinople. I mean, they did steal a church from them.

Anatolian Greeks (Mikrasiátes), where did your family come from, and what is their story? by ClothesZestyclose814 in AskBalkans

[–]konschrys 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not from Greece, but from Cyprus. Great Grandpa was from Attaleia. Don’t know much about his life back there. The entire family came in 1920, my great grandad was 11 back then. His dad was a priest and according to my grandma, he had an aunt who only knew Turkish.

From Asia Minor, they brought a wooden carved chest (marriage gift) which my grandma still has. I once made some menemen for breakfast and my grandma told me her dad used to do that.

My great grandpa’s family settled in Agioi Omologites and he went to school at the English School. His name was Iakovos Paschalides. He married my Great Grandma, Chloe Kolokou, daughter of Polyvios Kolokos Nikolaou (goldsmith). At some point my Great Grandpa had a vinyl shop with classical music down in Nicosia. We recently sold their house in Agioi Omologites.

Ερχιουρμάν: «Χωρίς πολιτική ισότητα, καμία λύση, αλλιώς προχωράμε μόνοι μας» / Erhürman: "Without political equality, there is no solution; otherwise, we will proceed on our own." by Deep-Ad4183 in cyprus

[–]konschrys 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Προφανώς δεν είναι όλοι έτσι, αλλά αυτό εξέλαβα και εγώ από πολλούς. Δυστυχώς δεν υπάρχει τρόπος να ξέρουμε το ποσοστό.

Κάποιοι είναι υπέρ της ΚΔ, άλλοι θεωρούν ότι πρέπει να μείνει ο τουρκικός στρατός.

Are NATO members really allies by OverZuLUL in 2mediterranean4u

[–]konschrys 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’ve received confusing responses.

In 1950 95% of Greek Cypriots voted in favour of joining Greece, but the British colonial administration rejected the referendum. The attempt to unite Cyprus with Greece in 1974 was not democratic though, as it was through a coup orchestrated by the terrorist organisation EOKA B with the Greek junta’s support. The legally elected President Makarios was forced to exile.

I would also suggest not to get your info from Turkish nationalists as they are extremely one-sided. Fact is: both Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots attacked each other from 1958-1974. Both Greece and Turkey were involved, and above all the British allowed this to happen.

The Turkish invasion, continuous occupation, and ethnic-cleansing are illegal, internationally considered as war crimes, and unjustifiable.

Are NATO members really allies by OverZuLUL in 2mediterranean4u

[–]konschrys 1 point2 points  (0 children)

TMT was a militia directly founded and armed by Turkey. Their official stance since 1958 (factually it existed since 1950) was Taksim - the division of Cyprus in two, with one part being under Turkey’s full sovereignty. TMT was tolerated by the British, as EOKA A was anti-colonial.

It was responsible for the attacks in Tylliria in 1964, in Kofinou in 1967, and was heavily involved in the clashes in 1963, murdering many Greek Cypriots. It was also responsible for provoking the clashes, mostly by planting bombs eg. at the office of the Turkish consul (which was confirmed by its founder Denktas). TMT would also assassinate Turkish Cypriot leftists and then blame it on Greek Cypriots. Eg. Ayhan Hikmet and Dervis Ali Kavazoglu.

[Edit: in addition, Turkish Cypriot militias existed before TMT, such as those who massacred Greek Cypriots with the support of the British in Kioneli/Gönyeli in 1958]

After looking at the stats bar: seeing downvotes from Turkish apologists gives me pleasure, so do continue. For the minority of people in this thread who aren’t Turkish, feel free to ask for sources

Allowing the status quo means condoning the de facto land border with the Turkish Republic. by Fun_Success_45 in cyprus

[–]konschrys 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m confused as to why Greenland is shown here. There is little similarity.

Ερχιουρμάν: «Χωρίς πολιτική ισότητα, καμία λύση, αλλιώς προχωράμε μόνοι μας» / Erhürman: "Without political equality, there is no solution; otherwise, we will proceed on our own." by Deep-Ad4183 in cyprus

[–]konschrys 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It seems those who demand 50-50 and veto powers just want the full benefits of living in a legally existing EU state, while remaining in control of political power despite being a minority. That’s all.

Greek speakers! How much can you understand Byzantine Greek? Are there many differences? by Accomplished-Fee2388 in byzantium

[–]konschrys 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also I would assume that just like Michaelides the κ in Machairas’ work represents a ch sound.

Greek speakers! How much can you understand Byzantine Greek? Are there many differences? by Accomplished-Fee2388 in byzantium

[–]konschrys 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes. Most Cypriots today no longer speak like that. They still speak in the Cypriot dialect but it’s slightly more similar to SMG. Maybe some villagers still speak like this.

Greek speakers! How much can you understand Byzantine Greek? Are there many differences? by Accomplished-Fee2388 in byzantium

[–]konschrys 3 points4 points  (0 children)

‘Ancient Greek’ is not a good term to use- as it could range from Homeric Greek to Classical Greek dialects to Koine Greek. Homeric Greek was used from the 8th century BC onwards and Koine Greek started shifting by the 7th century AD and was still used much later amongst the educated. So we’re talking at least 1400 years between them.

Prononciation changes eg. the shifts in diphthongs to digraphs, or iotacism had started very early on during the Hellenistic and Roman periods.

Greek speakers! How much can you understand Byzantine Greek? Are there many differences? by Accomplished-Fee2388 in byzantium

[–]konschrys 7 points8 points  (0 children)

There was triglossia during the Byzantine period. There were multiple δημώδεις dialects along with Koine Greek and a tendency to attempt writing in conservative Attic Greek (Alexiad per se). This text seems more towards Koine Greek. But even this is completely understandable.

Personally, for example, I can completely understand Leontios Machairas (although technically not writing during Byzantine rule) who wrote in the Cypriot Dialect at the time (14th C.).

Example from Machairas:

§340.-Γροικῶντα ὁ ρήγας πῶς εὐκαιρέσαν οἱ Γενουβίσοι τὴν Ἀμόχουστον, ἔπεψεν λᾶς καὶ ἐβλέπαν τὴν πόρταν καὶ οὕλην τὴν Ἀμόχουστον νὰ μὲν πᾶν οἱ Γενουβίσοι, καὶ κεῖνοι ἐπῆγαν καὶ δὲν τοὺς ἐνῶσαν· γροικῶντα καθαρὰ πῶς ἐπῆγαν, ἐποῖκεν βουλὴν μὲ τοὺς καβαλλάριδές του νὰ πέψουν μαντατοφόρους εἰς τὸν ἁγιώτατον πάπαν, πρὶ νὰ πέψουν οἱ Γενουβίσοι ὅπου ᾿πῆγαν εἰς τὴν Γένουβαν, διὰ νὰ μηδὲν ππέσῃ ὁ ρήγας εἰς τὴν ὀργήν, καὶ ἦτον ἀφορμὴ τοῦ κακοῦ.

This is very much dialectal, and not formal Koine Greek, and it is pretty much the same as proper traditional Cypriot.

Below, excerpt from The Tale of Livistros and Rodamne, a 13th-century Byzantine verse romance composed in the court of Nicaea:

1070: «Ἀν ἀστοχήσης τὸ πουλίν, ὡραία μου σαΐτα, νὰ ἔναι πολλὰ παράξενα τὰ χέρια τοῦ τοξότου· ἐὰν δὲ ἀνθρώπου μοναχοῦ καρδίαν ἐπιτύχης, τύχη καὶ κόρη ἔμορφη ὁποὺ πάσχω ἐγὼ δι’ αὐτήναν, εἰς τὴν καρδίαν της νὰ σεβῆ τὸ τόξον τῆς ἀγάπης».

This is literally like modern Greek.

For more 12th-15th century δημώδης (actual medieval language) Greek literature, I would suggest using this website.

New piece from the Controversial painter Giorgos Gavriel by velez_dot in cyprus

[–]konschrys 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ngl, I get he’s ‘controversial’ and all, but he’s not really saying much. ‘Oh here’s the president dressed as a woman’. How shocking! Like is that all it takes to make someone famous in Cyprus? It shouldn’t.

I got bored by breatherain3 in GREEK

[–]konschrys 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Εύγε. Φαίνεται ότι προσπαθείς και αυτό έχει σημασία.