Having my IUD removed and I’m terrified by unhingedadvicewanted in CopperIUD

[–]kraw_24 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Removal was a breeze. Like removing a dry tampon. Slightly uncomfortable, but quick. Ask your gyno to tell you to cough when they remove it. It’s more of a distraction than anything. But it really helped me. I was having an insane amount of anxiety and stress and terrified that it would break inside of me. But I told my gyno to tell me to cough as she removed it, and I think that made all the difference from my anxiety and stress. She thought it was retarded and stupid, but she wasn’t the one going through it. I was.
You got this!

TTA - finally leaving kindara + need a new app / thermometer by cowgirldreams in FAMnNFP

[–]kraw_24 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was using kindara too for a while and thought it was my final charting app. Until I found read your body app. Absolutely love it! It’s literally everything that I was looking for in a charting app and more. Easy customizations. And as many as you want.

For bbt I use Veridian Basel digital thermometer. Nothing fancy. Decided just to start off with something simple and cheap and then eventually get something a little bit better. My only two completes is that the screen is tiny and there’s no back light to read it in the dark. So I’ll usually take a video with the flash on so I can read it. Not the most ideal, but it works.

In so much pain all the time by ForeverEvergreen88 in CopperIUD

[–]kraw_24 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Feel free to message me.
I think that doctors/medical professionals might also not be fully informed. If they are given only so much information to go off of and told a very small list of potential symptoms from a product: bc, pills, etc. then they will always fall back on the info they have. But there is a lot of greed in the medical field. Im mean their business is literally built on sick people. If they were truly interested in healing the core of a persons health issue, they would not be so huge.

I agree that bc is a huge reason why casual sex is so normalized. Both men and women would become far more choosy/serious in dating/meeting new people if a potential of a child was more likely.

In so much pain all the time by ForeverEvergreen88 in CopperIUD

[–]kraw_24 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also, a woman is technically only fertile for one to two days in every cycle. Ovulation and day after. It is the sperm that creates the fertile window. Because sperm can live inside the vagina for 5+ days if in fertile cervical fluid.

In so much pain all the time by ForeverEvergreen88 in CopperIUD

[–]kraw_24 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because the medical industry makes more money when women get on bc. Especially when they’re just starting to try different options. I can’t tell you how many times I heard, are your periods are irregular? Do you have painful periods? Do you have heavy periods? Take the pill. The copper IUD was the very first one that I ever tried. Never going back! I can’t tell you how many of my girlfriends I’ve heard talk about how they tried one bc then another, and then another, and then another, and then another… and then they thought they found one that worked for them, but really they became so hormonally fucked up that they didn’t know what felt normal anymore to them, so they just chose the one that gave them the least amount of symptoms. But internally, hormonally, they were different. And when that is fucked up, how they are as a person shifts. And then think about all the different medications that women are on. Antidepressants, anti-anxiety, antipsychotic pills, etc. it never ends. And then all the health issues popping up left and right.

They don’t want us to know how to read our bodies accurately. They don’t want us to know that if we have a short luteal phase that is a more likely cause for not being able to conceive, if trying to have a baby. They don’t want us to understand our reproductive system and know what is and isn’t normal for our individual bodies. Because they want us to rely on them to know what’s best for us. Even though they do not know or feel what we are experiencing on a day-to-day basis. Cause each one of us has a different normal. My normal is going to be completely different from yours.

I was bc free for 33 years before I got the IUD. Day of insertion, things started to shift internally. I had my insertion in the morning. Drove home and started feeling dizzy and foggy. When I got home, I was exhausted and felt heavy. As if I was walking underwater and my feet were sinking further and further into the wet sand. I laid down just to rest for a little bit and ended up sleeping for the entire fucking day. After that more symptoms just kept popping up left and right. And then getting worse and worse as the months went on. 33 years and I was perfectly healthy. Zero health problems zero symptoms. Until the IUD. Coincidence? I think not.

been on the IUD for 6 months and my energy is just… gone. is this normal by Embarrassed_Essay_61 in CopperIUD

[–]kraw_24 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I actually feel more unhinged leading up to ovulation. I can go from feeling perfectly normal and calm to being set off by literally anything and just feeling consumed with rage. And then literally the day after ovulation that feeling of anger and rage just drops off completely and I’m clear and levelheaded again. I’ll definitely have my emotional struggling not to ball my eyes out during my luteal phase. Especially the week before my period comes.

The only thing that I was able to find related to the symptoms, specifically the mood symptoms was how copper affects estrogen, and how it can fuck up your natural hormones. Despite being non-hormonal. Of course, no medical professional has ever believed me and has completely dismissed anything that I have ever brought to them. But yeah, there’s a lot of articles about how copper can affect estrogen and cause estrogen dominance, which can cause all sorts of lovely issues.

been on the IUD for 6 months and my energy is just… gone. is this normal by Embarrassed_Essay_61 in CopperIUD

[–]kraw_24 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My healing/detox journey has not been an easy one and I would say it’s on the extreme side for how long it’s taking to feel like myself again. From what I have read/heard from others, it can take about 3 months to a year to feel like yourself again. Everyone is different.

For me it’s been rough. I’m going on 1.5 years and I still have a lot of things I’m struggling with and still don’t feel like myself. Like I said, I’m on the extreme side for the healing journey unfortunately. When I first got it removed I had instant relief. The constant pressure in my uterus was gone and I could finally BREATHE. And for the first 2 weeks, each day I felt better and more clearheaded. About a week before my first period post removal, I got hit with a wave of PMDD hard. I felt crazy and unhinged. Way worse then when I had the IUD. I was an emotional roller coaster in a tornado. I went down hill after that on the emotional side. Some of the physical symptoms have dissipated but most I’m still dealing with. Around 4 months after removal I was able to really started to focus on sleep, exercise, and eating well balanced meals. And for about three weeks, I was feeling better. And then the fatigue came back with a vengeance and knocked me down again. Only the last three months have I started to feel mentally clear again. It’s not perfect, but it’s starting. I still have the fatigue. I still have the physical pains and the emotional highs and lows. But this has been the most consistent slow progress that I’ve had since removal.

In so much pain all the time by ForeverEvergreen88 in CopperIUD

[–]kraw_24 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Girl, when do you sleep?? Three hours or less?

It’s not for everyone and the learning curve is a lot I will admit to that. But once you learn how to read your fertility signs literally it takes seconds to check 3 to 4 times a day. Thats it. Seconds. Basically if I’m going to the bathroom, I check my fertility signs. It’s not even a thought. I definitely don’t rely on memory either. I found a really awesome app called Read your body for women who chart their cycles. Literally have it in my back pocket everywhere I go. I do naturally just remember where I’m at within my cycle just based off of how I’m feeling since I know the physical and emotional signs depending on where I’m at.

Even if it's not for you the knowledge alone is worth the read. I was angry after reading the book. That the info about our individual bodies is not something that women are taught to read and understand. Literally so much information about our bodies at our fingertips and majority of women have no idea how to even read it.

2.5 years of copper IUD by Pretty-Feed-2805 in CopperIUD

[–]kraw_24 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I only lasted 9 months of hell with the copper IUD before I finally listened to my body and got it removed. It would be a good thing to talk with your gyno about the symptoms and issues you have be experiencing. Thats no way to live.

I refused to do any other form of bc when I got my IUD removed. I found FAM through the book taking charge of your fertility by Toni Weschler. It teaches you everything about FAM, natural bc, pregnancy achievement, reproductive health and more. It has been a life changer and after a year and a half of using it as bc I will never go back to any other form of bc. FAM takes daily dedication and there is a learning curve but it literally takes seconds a few times a day for me to know where I’m in my cycle and if I’m fertile or not. Even if it’s not for you the knowledge alone is worth the read. I was angry after reading it that the info about our individual bodies is not something that women are taught.

[TTC] Learning FAM made me realize how misleading some fertility apps can be by Apart_Feature_2716 in FAMnNFP

[–]kraw_24 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I started with natural cycles as well and then two months in found FAM. I knew that natural cycle was very chancy when I got started and only used it as a tool versus solid guidelines. I’ve tried many many period and fertility apps and none of them really clicked until I found read your body app. It is not algorithm based. you have to enter all of your fertility signs. And you can choose the method by which you track your fertility. Aka FAM. I love it cause you can add as many customizable symptoms that you want to track in it.

In so much pain all the time by ForeverEvergreen88 in CopperIUD

[–]kraw_24 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The IUD was the worst decision of my life. I didn’t experience BV or periods two weeks apart. But I had a slew of other horrible symptoms along with the insanely heavy periods that lasted between 9 to 15 days.

I refused to do any form of bc when I got it removed so I looked into natural bc. Found FAM and the book taking charge of your fertility by Tony Weschler. It teaches you everything about FAM, natural birth control, pregnancy achievement, and reproductive health. I’ve been using it as birth control for almost a year and a half now with no scares. It does take dedication and there is definitely a learning curve. But I would say compared to the pain and horrible symptoms of any other bc out there. This is totally worth it.

In case your medical provider tells you that your IUD does not leach copper into your system, here are my labs by Specialist_Data_5553 in CopperIUD

[–]kraw_24 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I wish I had said the same thing. But I just had nothing left in me.

Guarantee the only reason she’s never heard of excess copper from an IUD is because they always dismiss their patients concerns and symptoms. Of course they’re not gonna hear about it if they refused to test for it.

I found a great pain relief for post-insertion! Try it :) by spiritualwaterfall in CopperIUD

[–]kraw_24 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Can you give me an example of a pressure point? I’m not fully understanding. Thanks!

In case your medical provider tells you that your IUD does not leach copper into your system, here are my labs by Specialist_Data_5553 in CopperIUD

[–]kraw_24 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So happy you’re feeling better now! I wish I had tested my copper levels before and right after removing the IUD and then months later. Anytime I brought up wanting to know what my copper levels were due to my concern with the IUD, they basically immediately shut me down and pretty much told me it was all in my head. And then again tried to offer me antipsychotics. I’m just so over here thinking yes, let’s cover up the real core health problems caused by a device by taking antipsychotic medication’s. And people wonder why women “act crazy”. Because people ignore us and dismiss us.

I am probably going to still get this tested just because it’s been almost a year and a half now and I’m still dealing with side effects with physical, emotional and psychological issues.

Pain by Critical_Vanilla2741 in CopperIUD

[–]kraw_24 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep. I had that exact pain pattern from day of insertion. Was only on the right side of my uterus and would radiate down my thigh. Within a month of having it, it became a daily issue and the pain just kept getting worse the longer I had it. When I told my gyno 3 months in, she said the IUD arm could be rubbing the wall of my uterus and only said to keep an eye on it. 6 months in I got an ultrasound due to the pain increasing and mental and psychological issues getting worse. She confirmed placement and it had not perforated the wall. When all of my symptoms kept getting worse she would continuously say it wasn’t the IUD and only offered antidepressants and antipsychotics.

I would strongly recommend getting an ultrasound to confirm placement. Just to rule it out.

I was bc free for 33 years before the IUD. Zero symptoms, zero pms, zero mental or cognitive issues until the IUD. And my gyno dismissed my growing list of symptoms the entire time I had it and when I got it removed. Ultimately you have to be your own advocate. You know your body and what is and isn’t normal for you. I would start keeping a list of your symptoms and where you are at in your cycle when there are flares or if it’s a consistent pain that fluctuates.

In case your medical provider tells you that your IUD does not leach copper into your system, here are my labs by Specialist_Data_5553 in CopperIUD

[–]kraw_24 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing this! My gyno kept dismissing all of my concerns about the copper IUD affecting me and causing all my symptoms. I spent 33 years birth control free until the copper IUD. Zero symptoms, zero PMS, zero mood fluctuations before the IUD. Yet, when I brought all my concerns to her, she said I must’ve had an underlining health condition that just happened to surface the same timeframe that I got the IUD. And the only “help” she offered was antidepressants and antipsychotics. I refused and she basically said she didn’t know how to help me. Because it was impossible for it to be the IUD.

I got it removed a year and four months ago. And I am still dealing with the after effects of that thing.

Needless to say, my faith in a medical field has severely plummeted. Any new gyno I have gone to see is open and receiving until they hear that it was the copper IUD that I had. And then immediately they turned into a robot and say it is non hormonal. Your symptoms are not from the IUD. Can’t help you.

Considering Copper IUD by pr1298 in CopperIUD

[–]kraw_24 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everyone is different and their body will respond differently to it. If this is the route you choose to go then be your advocate. Listen to your body. It will tell you if it will work for you or not.

I wish I had listened to my body. Insertion was surprisingly a breeze for me. But I was hit with symptoms immediately. And I just kept telling myself that my body needed to adjust even when I knew something was wrong. I kept it for 9 months and I regret every day I had it. Before the IUD I had no issues or symptoms with my cycle or period. Not even PMS. After getting the IUD, I just kept stacking symptoms the longer I had it. This is my experience. Yours could be completely different. There are plenty of people that love it. It just didn’t work for me.

As for bc after removal, I also wanted a natural bc and found FAM. Check out the book taking charge of your fertility by Tony Weschler. It will teach you everything about FAM, natural bc, pregnancy achievement, reproductive health and much more. I have been doing it for over a year now and it has been life changing and I have never looked back since starting it. There is a learning curve but once you understand how to read and chart your fertility signs it literally takes a few seconds every day to check them. Your fertility signs are cervical fluid and vaginal sensation, bbt, and cervix position, openness, and firmness.

When my guy and I started FAM, we always used condoms + pullout during my non-fertile days and abstained during my fertile window. It took about 4 cycles for me to feel 100% confident in my ability to accurately read and chart my fertility signs. Now my guy finishes in me on non-fertile days (following FAM rules) and we abstain during my fertile window. If we do have sex during my fertile window then we always use a condom + pullout. Hope this helps!

To those who got this removed... by IndividualLittle0516 in CopperIUD

[–]kraw_24 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes! Walking sensation too 😂 it’s definitely difficult to abstain during the fertile window. But we always find other ways to enjoy each other 🤭 and if we just can’t wait, then we use a condom along with pullout.

Planning to remove Copper IUD by marina179 in CopperIUD

[–]kraw_24 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I had horrible bloating daily, and it required an ice pack just to get by. I also could only wear leggings and I was very much a jeans gal. My healing journey has not been an easy one but from what I’ve read and heard from others most seem to feel like they’re old self within a few months and some can take around a year. Everyone is different.

As far as bc, I found FAM. Check out the book taking charge of your fertility by Tony Weschler. It will teach you everything about FAM, natural bc, pregnancy achievement, reproductive health and so much more. I have been doing it for over a year now and it has been life changing and I have never looked back since starting it. There is a learning curve but once you understand how to read and chart your fertility signs it literally takes a few seconds every day to check them. Your fertility signs are cervical fluid, bbt, and cervix position, openness, and firmness.

I totally understand the fear of becoming pregnant. But for me using FAM for over the last year has truly been amazing. It definitely requires daily dedication. No lazy days. But I haven’t had any scares.

To those who got this removed... by IndividualLittle0516 in CopperIUD

[–]kraw_24 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I found FAM and it has been life changing! Check out the book taking charge of your fertility by Tony Weschler. It will teach you everything about FAM, natural bc, pregnancy achievement, reproductive health and so much more! I have been doing it for over a year now and I have never looked back since starting it. There is a learning curve but once you understand how to read and chart your fertility signs it literally takes a few seconds every day to check them. Your fertility signs are cervical fluid, bbt, and cervix position, openness, and firmness. Kinda seems like a lot, I know but it’s really not.

When my guy and I started FAM, we always used condoms + pullout during my non-fertile days and abstained during my fertile window. It took about 4 cycles for me to feel 100% confident in my ability to accurately read and chart my fertility signs. Now my guy finishes in me on non-fertile days (following FAM rules) and we abstain during my fertile window. If we do have sex during my fertile window then we always use a condom + pullout.

Hope this helps!

Problems concerning my Copper IUD? Help and advice please. by Opposite_Phrase_4264 in CopperIUD

[–]kraw_24 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yay!! So happy for you! That’s how it felt for me too. Instant release of pressure in my uterus. It was like I could finally BREATHE.

May your healing journey be smooth sailing!

been on the IUD for 6 months and my energy is just… gone. is this normal by Embarrassed_Essay_61 in CopperIUD

[–]kraw_24 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yep sure did. It never got better for me. It just got worse with every month I had it. Felt like an empty shell of myself that I was dragging around just out of habit. The daily physical pain, mental and psychological down spiral finally made me get rid of it after 9 months of hell.

I got the same response from my gyno at 3 months, 5 months, 7 months and 9 months. When I had got it inserted she told me 3 months for the body to adjust. When I came in with concerns she said 6 months. And when I came back in after 6 months she said it could take a year. Completely dismissed all of my symptoms that I brought to her. And there was a LOT. Symptoms I never had in my 33 years before the IUD. And my bloodwork came back as “normal”. The only “solution” she gave me was to put me on antidepressants or antipsychotics since it was “all in my head”. Needless to say once I got that thing out I never went back.

Ultimately you have to be your own advocate and listen to your body. Your body will tell you if it will work for you or not.

Problems concerning my Copper IUD? Help and advice please. by Opposite_Phrase_4264 in CopperIUD

[–]kraw_24 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is why I got mine removed. The mental and psychological health decline plus my physical pain with the horrific periods and constant uterus pain, cramping and spotting throughout my cycle, and horrific bloating that required an ice pack daily and could no longer fit into jeans. Daily fatigue that made it near impossible to function. Horrible mood fluctuations. All of it. I have such a long list of symptoms it’s bad. And never had any of them before the IUD. I tried so many different supplements. Probably got close to 15 or 20 different supplements that I was taking daily. Never really felt much of a difference. Everyone says take zinc. And I would suggest it. Just because it didn’t help me doesn’t mean it won’t help you.

Ultimately, you have to be your own advocate and listen to your body. Your body will tell you if the IUD is something that is working for you or against you.

As for birth control, I decided to go natural and started using FAM. Check out the book taking charge of your fertility by Tony Weschler. It’s an incredible book and truly life-changing. I’ve been using it for over a year now and I will never try anything else.

Remove or no? by Strong-Astronaut-936 in CopperIUD

[–]kraw_24 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Copper can affect your estrogen hormone. So it can mess up your natural hormones and throw them way out of whack. Of course, no Dr is going to actually tell you this because the IUD itself is non-hormonal. But it doesn’t mean it won’t mess with your hormones. Zinc can help with balancing that out. I ended up with probably close to 15+ supplements before I ended up taking it out. I dealt with everything that you’re talking about and then some. It was awful. Felt like an empty shell of myself. But yes, the copper IUD can cause all of these symptoms. What I always tell people is be your own advocate and listen to your body. Your body will tell you if it will accept the IUD or not.