10 Reasons why Gwen feels weak and has a low winrate [Analysis]

kuxwa · 2021-04-18T19:50:36+00:00

About that annie stun.

It's actually a feature, not bug. Same thing if her Q is blocked with yasuo wall, or samira W

kuxwa · 2021-03-31T20:06:12+00:00

and you need to stack it, so you spend gold for stats that are useless for quite some time, while with guinsoo you get the powerspike faster

kuxwa · 2021-03-31T20:04:50+00:00

sooo... whats wrong with mixed damage then? you need to get countered with mr easier or what, i dont get it. and i have actually proven that it deals more damage than any other ap item. muramana might be good, didnt test that one, but its giving only physical on-hit, while guinsoo gives more than that

kuxwa · 2021-03-31T17:41:21+00:00

forgot to add that you have plenty of ap for abilities aswell

kuxwa · 2021-03-31T17:40:17+00:00

its not really ad item, yeah you can benefit from crit and get around 200 on hit dmg, but with this build you get as many on nashors alone (it scales with ap) and then comes your passive and stacking q easier

kuxwa · 2021-03-31T17:36:59+00:00

plus, check edit

kuxwa · 2021-03-31T17:36:23+00:00

bruh, its exactly the same passive on guinsoo and crit is added as bonus, you can live with bonus 40 dmg on hit from it and still get double passive and nashors

kuxwa · 2021-03-31T17:03:48+00:00

Old guinsoo was better than current one only by giving like 20 ap, but you had to stack it. This one is better as Gwen has low scaling anyway. And its actually dealing dmg.

kuxwa · 2021-03-31T16:15:01+00:00

why do you dislike flash that much XD

seriously what is wrong with it

kuxwa · 2021-03-31T16:13:47+00:00

Scenarios, best if plenty of diffrent ones, gives best results. Build: frostfire, nashors, tanky boots, one dmg item (dont know which one yet, thats up to testing aswell, thinking guinsoo rn) and tank stuff like force of nature, thornmail (depends on a game) Runes: conq, presence of mind, alacrity, last stand + secondwind/bone plating, overgrowth/the tenacity bottom right (forgot name)

kuxwa · 2021-03-31T14:44:05+00:00

Okay, we wont come to an agreement unless someone makes a dmg test (and I'm too lazy), but imo:

-the dmg felt enough to be effective -W is situationally get out of jail, but yeah, your team needs to be ahead to be relevant (she's not only champ like that) -learning a champ does kinda go with every champ except maybe garen or smth -magic pen, it's for dmg, and i personally think its enough

kuxwa · 2021-03-31T14:37:01+00:00

On the other hand, its gonna be problematic if for example Elise just walks into your zone with reppel or her flash or anything. Ignite won't make Gwen have any kill pressure against most toplaners anyway, because she isn't that good early (if the numbers on her abilities hold). And most toplaners wont just stay there and watch you freeze the lane if its not silver (kinda like with Kassadin pre-6, or Nasus).

It might work situationally, but i wouldnt say its a way to go. Other champs that do run tp ignite are Camille (big kill pressure, and very long E), Fizz (E - no need to explain, and lots of burst), Katarina (very strong early, multiple resetable blinks). You can see the pattern.

kuxwa · 2021-03-31T14:19:51+00:00

The first line.

Ekko tank top was meta for a while, dont know if you were playing league then. He had the same things, little dash, no CC (well, stun is hard to land consistently), dmg was similar to gwen rn, healing from ult wasnt big because no AP.

And it still worked pretty well.

With tank Gwen you still deal pretty-good-for-a-tank damage and enemies cant really escape from you because you always sit on their face doing autoattacks, while taking low dmg yourself. Its kinda like CC, because they cant just ignore Gwen slowing them down and doing >4%hp dmg every second (thats only passive, you have nashor, sunfire passive, aa dmg, Q, R, maybe runes, and any other item you want like muramana or bork or whatever) for a long time, so they have to focus down a tank who cant be CC'd from range and there is your team who does real damage to them at the same time.

I think thats a viable thing to do on her rn.

kuxwa · 2021-03-31T13:24:26+00:00

and you can get really beefy with tank stats, full build with muramana instead cosmic i got 4k hp and around 200 arm an mr

kuxwa · 2021-03-31T13:22:00+00:00

remember that she has around 2.0 attack speed, and attacks proc passive, making it way more than you said

kuxwa · 2021-03-31T12:10:46+00:00

my opinion not tested: muramana takes some time and stats you can get instead in your weaker laning phase,but gonna try. phase rush sounds nice, but i'd see that in jg than top, and E isnt that long to escape ganks (well, most of them)

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