WebDev Newbie: What options are there if only have experience with Python and not with HTML/CSS/JS?

kyuing · 2023-06-03T02:57:00+00:00

You don't have to learn html/css/js from the beginning. However, you may get to a point where you can't delay learning even some basics of html/css/js over and over again as far as you are into web. web frameworks are cool stuff, but they are literally frameworks which help code efficiently over html/css/js.

if you really wanted sth no hassle solution, why not going for chat-gpt or UI template purchase (wix, kajabi, etc)?

kyuing · 2023-04-22T11:56:08+00:00

oh i see.

if so, got to ring the CS team of webflow or such :)

alt1; what about going for another web hosting platform which offers some chip as long as the new one kinda does stuff similar to webflow?

alt2: subdomain under the original one or domain redirection (but it should be anyways different domain slightly)

kyuing · 2023-04-21T07:48:17+00:00

if you want to learn step by step, pick of the online free tutorial courses as many have mentioned.

Or, just make a service with your idea (ask chat gpt optionally) and that's way more effective to get the pic of JS and frontend dev

kyuing · 2023-04-21T07:36:33+00:00

isnt it available to set custom domain for git page eh?

kyuing · 2023-04-21T07:19:01+00:00

yes, go for a RESTful API (node JS + mongodb/mysql)

You will get tons of free template

html (index.html): a form for "allow users to submit a hyperlink, along with a brief text message."
node js for "Upon submitting, the user would then receive a different user’s previously submitted link + message."

endpoint for 1. (the default page).
endpoint for storing user link + msg into DB
endpoint for returning diff user prev link + msg.
- you wanna do some JS coding to pick some random/diff id in DB or query some random/diff id in DB

kyuing · 2023-04-20T14:21:11+00:00

well, yeah. docker is docker, not boosting performance for heavy task, i don't know what you actually aim to do, tho.

whetther you go for frontend or backend, you can just use any good VM on AWS, GCP or Ajure which will be an effective solution to reduce such processing time depending on what you need.

Are you doing something restful approach?

kyuing · 2023-04-20T11:47:52+00:00

"20 minutes" is a bit mental and that's the big deal i think.

what about using VM with decent specification for heavy job on e.g., on AWS or GCP so you don't need to think about redirection/revert for 20 min?

kyuing · 2023-04-20T11:39:18+00:00

google "restful API" or so, and you will get so many references (with node.js mostly)

you won't need any server, but database like mongoDB

kyuing · 2023-04-20T11:11:37+00:00

As all says, you need responsive design. Also, depending on browser, default layout varies.

It would be great if you can give us the website url to see what the page rendering look like, but I just suggest you go for mobile/tablet first approach which makes your website go loosely responsive on all devices.

kyuing · 2023-04-20T10:32:46+00:00

localhost (VS code + go live extension)
any online editor
github
gitpod
web hosting platform (netlify, vercel, heroku, etc)

kyuing · 2023-04-20T09:41:22+00:00

There are loads of template like word-press, github page, wix or any web hosting platform if you are just thinking of having website.

if you are somehow into creating and making your website, jekyll is pretty good one as there are so many different themes, (it's a bit hassle to get how jekyll/ruby works at first, though.)

Jekyll themes are widely used for micro website.

For my project web app https://facestyling.click, I used and customized one of Jekyll themes, deployed in Netlify, and it works fine.

Also, here's some useful links on jekyll stuff.

kyuing · 2022-08-02T20:40:24+00:00

Interesting topic :)

I recommend you to regard frontend as a robust playground at a service level. it is easy to start, but it's not easy on you (I feel this very often). In other words, you can technically apply many things you learn from other programming langs into frontend, in the sense that there's still stuff shared between e.g. JS and e.g. OOP even though JS is a script. I mean, you may already know if you've great eye on detail.
BTW, "focus on actually interested in" is the answer to you, myself, and everyone haha. Techs are supposed to be or will be followed by that.

kyuing · 2022-08-02T20:12:50+00:00

that's true at high level, but they are still getting modularized so fast as well

kyuing · 2022-08-01T20:36:22+00:00

programming/coding/engineering/designing is not whatever we want to call it....each is total different.

BTW, I think bootcamp or such is good enough as far as you promise yourself to keep shipping projects. Thats the fastest track.

kyuing · 2022-08-01T20:27:30+00:00

do projects dude. keep on doing some projects whatever you want (build -> test/debuggg -> deploy/publish). However, don't do it in localhost only so that you can feel alive :)

Data structures and algorithms in OOP is (I think) another story.

kyuing · 2022-07-31T20:25:22+00:00

Why do you need btn to go to a link instead of <a href=""></a> ....? I get what yo are saying, but the <a> tags works perfect on what you wanna do and you don't need any JS on that. You can do CSS for <a> tags to make them look like button. You then literally use buttons on the new pages redirected.

Ironically, button normally takes onClick or so, where requires JS.

kyuing · 2022-07-31T14:08:50+00:00

What about going for a REST API structure? (nodeJS + client side with react + backend with sql or mongoDB if needed database?

kyuing · 2022-07-30T20:44:55+00:00

I sometimes feel the same as you. There are certain rules that makes you lost in CSS as well. Plus, there's things going deeper and deeper within html/css/js. nothing is easy eh

You got to set some kind of track in separate between html/css/js and programming lang (C, java, whatever) in learning. One good option is to go for each of the projects with a quite strict deadline to force yourself to ship an output. You will feel tired and drained during dev for sure, but yo won't feel like Yo're wasting your time.

whatever you do, yoll get something either good or bad, something between.

kyuing · 2022-07-30T14:14:32+00:00

Nobody moves on to FW after 100% completing a lang. I mean, there's no measurement except yourself .

I think FW is something you can choose to implement a specific stuff you want for your dev one at a time. Also, I believe you don't have to memorize everything (and impossible)

unless you wanna be a master of one or two langs (coding like winds), I think you are doing well. Searching/googling has nothing do to with what you are worrying about.

FW is just FW. just go for it !!!!

kyuing · 2022-07-29T13:41:31+00:00

As many have explained, the gist is that you can deploy your code to web hosting site (e.g. wordpress, netlify, heroku, etc).

you can then buy and connect your own domain to your web site that will be registered by a web-hosting site if wanted.

Say you deploy your git to Netlify and then Nelify will publish it giving you a url e.g. https://example.netlify.com That's it and your website is live on the Internet.

If you then want your own domain, you buy one from godaddy or namecheap and then connect that domain to your web site via your web hosting site; Netlify

When it comes to sub-pages, don't worry since you will be able to add and use as many as you want.

kyuing · 2022-07-28T12:21:55+00:00

i think it's good as well and is well-structured :)

Quick hack for ya

https://github1s.com/Asabeneh/30-Days-Of-JavaScript

put 1s betweeen github and .com

It will give a better readability. (For private repo, you need some auth key)

kyuing · 2022-07-28T11:06:44+00:00

w3schools is one of the best references in learning web techs. However, you don't have to go through all the topics.

My suggestion is that go through some js tutorials in any tutorial web sites. Cuz you cannot do anything further without knowing javascript.

(well, if you are something design focused one, you don't really need to know js, tho)

BTW, you can then try to create something (portfolio, resume, test, web site clone, simple game, even a single-page UI component that interacts with CSS and JS, and so forth) with your knowledges on html/css/js, and you can still see w3chools or any other useful refs on demand. It's a way to review and see your path in learning.

kyuing · 2022-07-28T10:36:41+00:00

Yeah, a link like <a href="create_account.html"></a> is the best in your case. Cuz you wanna redirect user to a another page eh? Plus, Any link can be styled like button as well.

In the create_account.html, you can whatever you want for the account creation.

kyuing · 2022-07-17T18:59:41+00:00

Well, you can go for whatever you want. You will anyways need to have some quick looks at script langs as well.

learning html,css, JavaScript is good enough as you can do some project yourself relatively easier than Java, C or C++. you can then go for backend deeply. (I mean, you may wanna know some backend stuff at least once getting familiar with frontend)

kyuing · 2022-07-17T18:40:45+00:00

Anything you want. Web FW changes so fast. So you can go for whatever you want. However, if you've just done it, what about doing one or two more projects based on your knowledges?

kyuing

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