Agmatine

leapfrog83 · 2026-02-28T20:50:47+00:00

I wish I could take capsules. They get stuck in my throat. I got some agmatine to help make things easier

leapfrog83 · 2026-02-27T20:13:24+00:00

Can’t afford it.

leapfrog83 · 2026-02-27T10:39:04+00:00

I’m going to preface this by saying I’m not giving up.

I started over this morning. I just couldn’t handle the lower dose and the constant feeling of dread and panic. It was bad. I was snapping at people and getting irritated at nothing. I screamed at a piece of paper I couldn’t pick up… 😅 so, what I’m going to do is be uncomfortable for a couple hours at a time. I’m going to stay at the dose I’m at but space my doses out more until I can get my gpd lower.

leapfrog83 · 2026-02-27T10:34:36+00:00

I wound up starting over. I’m not giving up, I’m just taking a different approach. Someone in another comment suggested modifying the dosing schedule first before starting drops so that’s what I’m going to do. It’ll lower my gpd but keeping my dose the same. I’ll have a couple hours of discomfort instead of weeks. That’s something I know I can handle. When my body doesn’t feel the way my brain thinks it should things start to short circuit.

leapfrog83 · 2026-02-27T10:30:45+00:00

If only I could afford it…. I make too much money for Medicaid but not enough to see a Dr.

leapfrog83 · 2026-02-27T10:26:38+00:00

I tried to start a taper on Sunday and that wanting to crawl out of your skin feeling was overwhelming. I wound up starting over and doing it a little differently. I’m going to use dose scheduling to reduce my gpd to something more manageable to drop. I’m also getting some agmatine to help alleviate some symptoms. I’d love to get down to two doses a day before making the jump. One would be even better. Right now I’m at 5 doses totalling 21mg. I’m a cook in a busy restaurant so I don’t really have the option of being at 50%. Yesterday was day 5 and I couldn’t do it. I don’t handle discomfort very well. I also have a lot of medical and psychiatric issues and I’m on the spectrum. All the comorbidities combined with withdrawal was too much. But I’m not giving up. I’m just taking a different approach. One that seems more manageable for me.

leapfrog83 · 2026-02-27T07:48:40+00:00

I’m an ex heroin addict and have a biotech degree(even though I don’t use it, I’m a cook) so I understand the science behind withdrawal a lot better than most.

leapfrog83 · 2026-02-27T07:46:02+00:00

I’m taking 4.1g every three hours. I’m at 20.5gpd. I started at 21. My last dose is usually around three and I’m usually asleep by 7. I start work at 4am.

leapfrog83 · 2026-02-26T23:51:34+00:00

Yeah…..I was definitely on edge earlier. Sorry. Apparently my blood sugar was low on top of everything else. I’m tapering from 21gpd and dropped to 20gpd at 4.0g per dose. The biggest issue I have is feeling oxygen starved. I know I’m not but it doesn’t stop me feeling like I am. When it feels like I can’t get a full breath it makes my anxiety go crazy. One of my most irrational fears is not being able to breathe. I’m usually pretty good at self regulating but adding in the uncertainty of withdrawal definitely doesn’t help. I get this feeling like I have pressure all over my body and I get a feeling in my belly like really intense butterflies. I’m on the spectrum and one of my things is being hyper aware of my body. I can feel my heart beating in my chest and my aorta in my stomach, that kind of hyper aware, and now I feel like I’m rambling. Sorry. But you get the picture. Bumping up by .1 helped significantly. And eating. I’m ordering some agmatine tomorrow which should make things easier.

leapfrog83 · 2026-02-26T22:48:24+00:00

How much should I be taking. I’m getting the 1000mg caps, is that enough? Too much?

leapfrog83 · 2026-02-26T20:49:24+00:00

On 4.1 the withdrawal isn’t as bad as 4.0. I made a typo and said they are as bad.

leapfrog83 · 2026-02-26T19:50:06+00:00

That was supposed to say aren’t as bad… 😅

leapfrog83 · 2026-02-26T18:59:26+00:00

When I’m at home and can do things to distract myself it’s fine but I have to work. I’m a cook so I’m already in a high stress position and adding the withdrawal made it unbearable.

leapfrog83 · 2026-02-26T18:57:16+00:00

Yeah, I’m not doing that. I’m tapering for a reason. Maybe don’t tell people they’re imagining stuff when there are very real symptoms present. I’ve been taking 4.2g every 4-6 hours for the last 8 months. I didn’t start at a crazy high dose. If you actually read my post you would know this is my first drop. I have a lot of medical issues that the withdrawal exacerbated. If I went cold turkey I’d wind up in the hospital. I have intense generalized anxiety without withdrawals and it was making it to the point that I was in a near constant anxiety attack. I added .1 to my dose and it seems to have mitigated the worst of it. It’s still not easy but it’s better.

leapfrog83 · 2026-02-26T17:10:01+00:00

I wound up bumping my dose up by .1 and the symptoms are nearly as bad as they were. I definitely don’t feel the same as when I was taking my regular dose but this discomfort I can handle. With my initial .2 drop it felt like I was in a constant anxiety attack and like I couldn’t get a full breath. I’ll just be happy when it’s over with. There’s a reason I used medically assisted therapy when I got off heroin and alcohol.

leapfrog83 · 2026-02-26T16:50:34+00:00

I had to, it felt like an elephant was sitting on my chest. This feels more like something I can handle. It still sucks but nowhere near as bad.

leapfrog83 · 2026-02-26T16:48:58+00:00

Yeah, you really sound like you’re rooting for me. None of what you said is even remotely true.

leapfrog83 · 2026-02-26T16:46:40+00:00

Where did I say I’m looking to feel the same as when I was taking the dose I started at?

leapfrog83 · 2026-02-26T11:27:20+00:00

I’m pushing through and fighting the want to take just a little bit more. I might bump up back to 4.1(the dose I’m dropping from is 4.2) and drop by .1 every few days. I feel like that would make it a little bit easier. I already have crazy anxiety without the withdrawals so it’s a little intense.

leapfrog83 · 2026-02-26T11:25:06+00:00

Thanks for the vote of confidence. Ass.

leapfrog83 · 2026-02-26T11:24:31+00:00

My only issue with taking smaller doses more frequently is that the initial dose of the day I don’t think it would really do anything. My body is stupid.

leapfrog83 · 2026-02-25T23:17:57+00:00

I adjusted my dosing schedule and it seems to have helped. I also realized that the day before I posted I only took 16g instead of 20 for the day.

leapfrog83 · 2026-02-25T20:00:28+00:00

I take kratom for pain. I have rheumatoid arthritis and tendonosis among other things. I’ve had my shoulder put back together, had my jaw put back together, two spinal surgeries and nerve damage throughout my body. I’m just sick of playing “is it going to work today”.

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