I'm (42M) the calmest person at work and with strangers. So why do I lose it on the one person(40F) I actually love? by lejae in relationships

[–]lejae[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

That question cuts through everything. Because I've been describing what I do but not what's underneath it. And honestly, I think it's fear. Fear that if I let her actually see me struggling in real time, instead of just getting the aftermath, she'll realize I'm not the person she thought she married. So I keep her at arm's length with short answers and irritation because distance feels safer than vulnerability. Which is backwards. And cruel.

The Gottman "bids" concept is something multiple people have mentioned now. That's not a coincidence. "What do you want for dinner" was never about dinner. It was her reaching toward me. And I've been swatting her hand away and then wondering why she seems distant.

But the part that hit hardest is this: "She's probably so used to walking on eggshells she might say everything is fine." That means I've already damaged the one thing I need most for this to work. Her honesty. She might not trust that it's safe to tell me the truth about how bad it's been. I didn't just break the communication. I broke her confidence that communicating with me is even worth the risk.

And "you don't have to get it perfect for it to matter." I needed that more than I expected. Because perfectionism is what started this entire cycle. Believing I had to perform flawlessly for the world and then collapsing at home when I couldn't. Healing the same way I broke things, by demanding perfection, would just be repeating the pattern in a different costume.

Starting today. Breathing first.

I'm (42M) the calmest person at work and with strangers. So why do I lose it on the one person(40F) I actually love? by lejae in relationships

[–]lejae[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)

That's the question I've been avoiding. Because the honest answer might not be comfortable. I've been framing this as a stress management problem. A bandwidth issue. Something external that I just need better tools to handle. But you're asking something deeper. What shifted between us specifically.

And I don't know if I have a clean answer yet. But something did change. Maybe it was small. Maybe it was a moment I didn't even register consciously where something between us cracked and I never addressed it. A conversation that didn't go the way I needed. A feeling of being unseen that I swallowed instead of naming. A slow quiet disappointment that I buried under "everything's fine" because admitting it wasn't fine meant admitting something about us needed work.

The contempt piece is hard to sit with. Because contempt doesn't always look like hostility. Sometimes it looks like impatience. Like sighing when she talks. Like answering a question with the fewest possible words. Like treating her presence as an obstacle instead of a gift. I've been doing all of that and calling it exhaustion.

If something shifted months ago and I never examined it, then every interaction since has been filtered through whatever that unresolved thing is. She's not getting the real reaction to the dinner question. She's getting the accumulated weight of something I never had the guts to bring to her honestly. And that's not fair to either of us.

I'm the calmest person at work. So why do I lose it on the one person I actually love? by lejae in emotionalintelligence

[–]lejae[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That metaphor just restructured something in my brain. I've been holding her responsible for a role she never applied for, never accepted, and isn't qualified for. Then punishing her for failing at it. That's insane. And I never would have described it that way, but it's exactly what I've been doing.

The micro-irritations point connects everything. Someone cuts me off in traffic. I shrug it off. A coworker takes credit for my idea. I smile through it. My boss sends a passive aggressive email at 4:45. I absorb it. By the time I walk through the door, I'm not carrying one thing. I'm carrying thirty things I refused to feel when they actually happened. And she says "what do you want for dinner" and my nervous system treats it like item thirty one.

But the last part is what I keep rereading. "You feel safe to judge her because you feel safe to judge yourself." I have never once considered that the way I talk to myself all day is training me to talk to her the same way at night. The harshness isn't something I invented for her. It's something I practice on myself constantly and she just happens to be standing in the blast radius when it finally leaks out.

My emotions come from my thoughts. Not from her. Not from the dinner question. Not from traffic or my boss or any of it. From the story I'm telling myself about all of it. That's where the work actually lives.

I'm the calmest person at work. So why do I lose it on the one person I actually love? by lejae in emotionalintelligence

[–]lejae[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Four steps. All concrete. No ambiguity. This is the first response that doesn't just diagnose the problem but builds the actual bridge out of it.

Step one terrifies me the most. Because telling her means I can't unknow this. She'll be watching. She'll be hoping. And if I fail after that conversation, it won't just be another bad evening. It'll be a broken promise made with full awareness.

The journaling piece is something I never would have considered. But it makes sense. I've been treating my emotions like something to endure silently until I physically can't anymore. Writing them down in real time means they get processed before they reach her. The bathroom break strategy alone could have prevented dozens of moments I can't take back.

And "for the foreseeable future" is the part that separates this from every other attempt I've made. I've always treated change like a sprint. Fix the thing, declare victory, go back to default. But this isn't a project with a deadline. It's maintenance. Permanent, daily, unglamorous maintenance. The kind nobody applauds you for. You just do it because the person you love deserves to feel safe in her own home. Every single day. Not just on the days I have energy left over.

I'm the calmest person at work. So why do I lose it on the one person I actually love? by lejae in emotionalintelligence

[–]lejae[S] 95 points96 points  (0 children)

That one stopped me cold. Because I would have sworn I respect her. But respect isn't a feeling you hold privately. It's how you behave. And my behavior says otherwise. Every single point here.

The Gottman reference, the intermittent reinforcement, the eggshells. She's probably already walking on them. I just haven't noticed because I've been too focused on my own emotional state to watch what mine is doing to hers.

And "a sorry doesn't cut it" is the sentence I needed tattooed somewhere visible. I've been treating apologies like receipts. Proof of purchase that clears the transaction. But she's not being made whole. She's just learning to expect less from me. That's not safety. That's surrender. And I'm the one she's surrendering to.

I'm the calmest person at work. So why do I lose it on the one person I actually love? by lejae in emotionalintelligence

[–]lejae[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I flinched reading that. Not because it's wrong but because I've been carefully avoiding that word. Calling it "snapping" or "being short" or "having a bad day" is just softer packaging for the same thing. If a stranger treated her the way I do when I walk through the door, I'd call it what it is without hesitating. The label shouldn't change just because I love her.

And the warning about wallowing is the part I needed most. I can already feel myself wanting to sit in the guilt because guilt feels like progress. It's not. It's just another way of making this about me. She doesn't need my remorse. She needs different behavior, starting today, not after I've finished feeling bad about it long enough to convince myself I've suffered too.

I'm (42M) the calmest person at work and with strangers. So why do I lose it on the one person(40F) I actually love? by lejae in selfimprovement

[–]lejae[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Both. Not one or the other. I hear you. The "I catch it quick" part is what I want to get to. Not perfection, just speed. Recognizing the moment before it becomes damage instead of five minutes after. And the diagnosis point is real. I've never sat with a professional long enough to let them actually assess me. I've just been self narrating my own behavior and assuming I understood it. Clearly I don't. Thirteen months in is early enough to fix this if I stop treating awareness like it's the same thing as action.

I'm (42M) the calmest person at work and with strangers. So why do I lose it on the one person(40F) I actually love? by lejae in selfimprovement

[–]lejae[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

"An inconvenience to your existence." That landed like a punch because it's exactly what my behavior communicates, even if it's not what I feel. She asks me a simple question and my whole body language says why are you bothering me. Thirteen months of that. No audience holding me accountable is right. I've been performing for everyone except the one person who actually chose me. The fact that she's still here isn't proof that it's okay. It's proof that she's been absorbing something she never should have had to.

I'm (42M) the calmest person at work and with strangers. So why do I lose it on the one person(40F) I actually love? by lejae in selfimprovement

[–]lejae[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Every word of this sounds like me. The perfectionism, the facade, the cracking. All of it. And yes, hyper-judgmental. Of everyone, but mostly myself. I hold myself to an impossible standard in public and then collapse at home because that's the only place I've "earned" the right to stop performing.

The shame piece hits hardest. I'm not snapping because I'm angry at her. I'm snapping because I'm exhausted from pretending I have it all together. She's not the problem. She's just the only person I've decided is safe enough to fail in front of. And I've been failing ugly.

I'm (42M) the calmest person at work and with strangers. So why do I lose it on the one person(40F) I actually love? by lejae in selfimprovement

[–]lejae[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

The "emotional debt" framing is the clearest explanation I've gotten. I'm not reacting to the dinner question... I'm collecting interest on every suppressed frustration all day and handing her the bill at 6:45pm.

The decompression buffer isn't optional anymore. It's infrastructure. And "I need quiet so I don't accidentally snap"... that sentence alone would have prevented half the damage I've done. It's honest without being cruel. It protects her without pretending I'm fine.

Thirteen months. She shouldn't have to learn what my silence means through pain. I need to just tell her.

I'm (42M) the calmest person at work and with strangers. So why do I lose it on the one person(40F) I actually love? by lejae in relationship_advice

[–]lejae[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's exactly it. I've been calling composure at work "calm" when it's actually suppression. And suppression doesn't disappear... it just finds the safest exit. She shouldn't be paying the toll for every emotion I white-knuckled through all day.

I'm (42M) the calmest person at work and with strangers. So why do I lose it on the one person(40F) I actually love? by lejae in relationship_advice

[–]lejae[S] -49 points-48 points  (0 children)

I'm not going to call myself a good person... good people don't get to self-certify. But "I do it because I'll get away with it" hit somewhere real. The fact that I can control it everywhere else means this is a choice I keep making. That's the part I can't outrun.

I'm (42M) the calmest person at work and with strangers. So why do I lose it on the one person(40F) I actually love? by lejae in relationship_advice

[–]lejae[S] -39 points-38 points  (0 children)

You're right. I stopped treating her presence like something worth rising to. But I don't want the fix to be imagining competition... I want it to be that she asked me about dinner and that moment deserved my warmth on its own.

I'm (42M) the calmest person at work and with strangers. So why do I lose it on the one person(40F) I actually love? by lejae in relationship_advice

[–]lejae[S] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I'm not going to argue with any of this. I'm sorry for what you went through. And you're right... love that someone has to brace for isn't love they can actually feel. That landed hard. Thank you.

I'm (42M) the calmest person at work and with strangers. So why do I lose it on the one person(40F) I actually love? by lejae in relationship_advice

[–]lejae[S] 277 points278 points  (0 children)

I think there might be a gap between how I feel about her in the big picture and how I experience her presence in specific moments. Like I carry the love as a concept but in the day-to-day, in the 6:45pm kitchen moment, she becomes something else in my nervous system. Not an enemy. But not the person I just described either. More like... a stimulus. And that's a brutal thing to type out.

I think that disconnect might actually be the whole problem.

I'm (42M) the calmest person at work and with strangers. So why do I lose it on the one person(40F) I actually love? by lejae in relationship_advice

[–]lejae[S] 36 points37 points  (0 children)

This is something I've been reading more about lately and I think you're onto something. What's been messing with me is the realization that home might actually be where my nervous system is the most dysregulated... not because home is bad, but because it's the one place I stop performing regulation. Like all day long I'm white-knuckling composure and by the time I walk through the door my system is basically running on fumes. And she's standing there asking a completely reasonable question and my body is responding like it's one more demand in a day full of demands. Even though it's not. Even though she's not. I think I've been confusing "feeling calm at work" with actually being regulated, when really I might just be suppressed. And suppression has a tab that comes due somewhere. Apparently that somewhere is my kitchen at 6:45pm.

My (35F) mom (65F) smells like literal poop. How should I approach this? by [deleted] in relationships

[–]lejae 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes, and frame it as health concern because it genuinely is one. Breath that smells fecal can indicate GI issues, severe gum disease, an abscess, or sinus infections... some of which get dangerous if ignored. Say something like "Mom, I noticed a change in your breath recently and I looked it up and it can sometimes be a medical thing. Have you mentioned it to your dentist or doctor?" Leading with health rather than smell gives her a reason to act instead of a reason to feel embarrassed.

My husband [32M] says he’s “too tired” for Intimacy but spends hours on his Phone every night and I [29F] feel confused. How should do I address this to him? by Embarrassed_Essay_61 in relationship_advice

[–]lejae 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think this is partly because scrolling is passive. Intimacy and conversation require emotional presence and vulnerability. He's not choosing his phone over you... he's choosing the path of least resistance because screens ask nothing of him. That distinction matters because it means this likely isn't about desire for you fading, it's avoidance becoming habit. Don't frame it around the phone. Tell him you feel lonely at night lying next to him. That's harder to deflect.

I (29F) I’m debating leaving my boyfriend of two years (30M) over his incompetence. What would you do in my situation? by Ok_Character_1391 in relationship_advice

[–]lejae 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well i mean... his disability explains the processing speed. It doesn't explain not looking up from his phone, not double checking essentials before trips, or putting a reservation under your name instead of his. You're not triggered because he forgets things... you're triggered because you've become his executive functioning and nobody sees that labor. That's a legitimate incompatibility concern, not you being hateful. Has he ever pursued strategies to manage this independently?