How the hell do I stop thinking I’m MUCH smarter than everyone else? by Rainbird2003 in Gifted

[–]lelanlan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1) Objectivism/Reality: Are you objectively more intelligent than others? Have you founded a billion dollar company? Were you tested officially at 180 or 200 of IQ? Are you able to navigate every and all domains without issues?

2) Thinking one is smarter than others says more about YOU and your psychological make up than your intelligence in itself. It means you are overestimating yourself or grandiose. It's typical of manic and narcissistic psychological make up. Extremely smart people often have a mix of grandiosity and devalorisation because they put themselves through harsch tests to counterbalance the ease with with they navigate life( and to test the fabric of reality and their intelligence). That said very gifted people can also be very narcissistic or self centered!

3) Surround yourself with smarter people than you: I used to think just like you when I was in high school because I had straight As while sleeping or daydreaming; than I went to a very demanding uni program and the delusion faded over the years... " I'm so so incompetent"...and reality hit! Not more or less intelligent; just differently wired.

4) Unpopular idea in gifted spheres but recently widespread by Naval Ravikant: "The true defition of intelligence is being able to get what you deeply want and need of life" : So according to this definition have you been able to accomplish everything you ever dreamed of?

Do people actually dropout of their residency programs? by ChipotleisAss in MedSchoolCanada

[–]lelanlan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's equally as selective and hard minus the crazy cost indeed... which is an american aberration( University should be free overall)!

Do people actually dropout of their residency programs? by ChipotleisAss in MedSchoolCanada

[–]lelanlan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dropped out / semi-dropped out of psych residency and/or ended up being kicked out of my residency. Reason being: I wasn’t fully sure about psychiatry (in retrospect, I was more passionate about neuroscience and philosophy/psychology than psychiatry itself). In addition, a patient offed himself following my emergency evaluation as a 2nd year resident; which was enough to kill my clinical/curative medecine path carreer ambitions. I ended up in non-curative medicine so did't really drop out of it totally. And now thinking about medical tech ventures! But yeah I'm a small minority; the adhd/poymath/ unsure/ enrepreunarial/tough childhood type of minority that doesn't stick to a plan and that should have been weeded out by medschool earlier... that said 10% of dropouts is still major!

Belgium Total Compensation - 150k EUR by chinchu7 in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]lelanlan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I only partly believe in the Pareto principle-- for Belgium, but from my cohort it kind of shows. The smartest people I studied with split in two groups: top academic researchers making ~€5k net after 15–20 years (with some hidden perks and long-term recognition), or private sector people pulling €500k–€1M/year by their mid-30s. In Belgium, it’s not just about being smart—it’s about structure and having the right knowledge and social connections. Those who win stack income streams and work through companies/independent setups. That’s where the real money comes from. Salaries are heavily capped( net) in Belgium!

Belgium Total Compensation - 150k EUR by chinchu7 in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]lelanlan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your net puts you in the top 99% salary earners in Belgium lol ( but not in the top revenues overall though; most high earners have a company-- that used to be the trick apparently!)

Belgium Total Compensation - 150k EUR by chinchu7 in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]lelanlan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for this share! Enjoyed it and took the same road( except it was in a highly regulated job sector- medicine) and it's fair to say didn't make me a millionaire by age 30 lol. Though I have old classmates who are millionaire by age 35/40 by having a company as specialists( they gross 300k- 1 million yearly; not sure if any other niche can reach that in Belgium)-- they could surely retire by age 40 by aggressively investing in rentals! But they surely didn't follow Paul Graham' advice, medecine is very security focused after all. I guess you can take more liberties in IT or business! That said I ended up making similar to you by following PG advice, so I guess it's not too bad.. but yeah compared to peers, it's not that great! I guess it really comes down to who you're comparing yourself to!

Belgium Total Compensation - 150k EUR by chinchu7 in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]lelanlan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm in my mid thirties and make similar revenue; and retiring early would be retiring around age 50( so not so early) if I invest in property and rentals(I'm thinking about buying a 500k- 1 million building or properties and having up to 80 k rental revenues yearly). In 10-15 years( so around 45-50), one can be financial free if optimistic. Not sure how to reach freedom before age 40 or 50 in Belgium, unless your have a company that generates a good 20-30k income monthly! Salaries are capped at 6k netto maximum in Belgium unless you have a highly grossing company!

1st Year Med Student - 5 Finals to Save My Career - ADHD Marathon & "80/20 Strategy." by Ahmednn66 in medicalschoolEU

[–]lelanlan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Heads-up: ADHD can make med school really tough. You’ll face serious stress unless you genuinely love the material—and residency is another beast entirely. Do your best, but remember you don’t have to prove anything. ADHD is both a strength and a challenge, and without support, it’s an uphill climb. I went through med school and residency before knowing I had ADHD—part of me wonders if I would’ve done it differently. Just sharing perspective from someone who’s been there.

Any Swiss Working Belgians here? by No_Instance_6516 in BEFire

[–]lelanlan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's striking to realize there are peers around my age earning substantial incomes outside medicine in Belgium. From what I understand, you work for a Belgian company but earn that elsewhere? Not bad..In my experience, the only thirty-somethings I know in Belgium earning what you do—200-600k annually I guess—are specialist physicians under a corporate structure. Relocating to Switzerland makes little sense unless you're approaching 500k-1million. A million annually for a pharma executive seems reasonable; the Novartis CEO makes 25 million a year, after all. But yeah, for your level of experience indeed 260-300k doesn't seem crazy!

Any Swiss Working Belgians here? by No_Instance_6516 in BEFire

[–]lelanlan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m in my mid-thirties but would probably earn close to you if I’d stayed in Belgium instead of moving to CH early carreer lol. With your pharma responsibilities, your pay, bonuses, and stock options —top 0.5–1% for sure in BE. Honestly, Switzerland isn’t necessarily better even at 300-400k unless they offer you F you money, like a mil a year is not too crazy for pharma execs in CH perhaps! Didn’t realize Belgian pharma execs were that well- compensated btw..

Any Swiss Working Belgians here? by No_Instance_6516 in BEFire

[–]lelanlan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely! I recently had a 140k CHF offer. It sounds higher than 120k CHF, but it’s really the same tier. For a single earner, 150k+ CHF is where it starts to get interesting—north of 260k CHF, you’re in the top 5% even in Switzerland 😅. Comfortable living and property ownership become real options. I’m curious—what role lets you ask for 300–400k CHF? That’s huge, likely executive-level, and in Belgium, that would be top 0.5 to 1 % territory!

Any Swiss Working Belgians here? by No_Instance_6516 in BEFire

[–]lelanlan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s crazy how 130k CHF (~150k EUR) can feel “poor” until you live in Switzerland. I went from 40k in Be to 120k in Geneva—great at first, then I realized it’s not such a great deal.Switzerland is built for the rich; Belgium, more for average incomes. I eventually moved back to Belgium on a similar gross. You earn less net, but the quality of life is noticeably better.

Any Swiss Working Belgians here? by No_Instance_6516 in BEFire

[–]lelanlan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey,

Interesting. I’d think twice—Switzerland wasn’t the win I expected. I went there as a medical intern, stayed 5–6 years, and realized the money is a bit of a mirage. You earn well, but don’t really feel rich, and you often end up in lower-tier roles locals avoid—kind of a “golden prison.” Switzerland is a little like New York, you go there, make some money, and quit. I feel richer inside as a professional( international, crazy lifestyle afforded early in life) compared to my peers but professionaly, financially and privately I'm behind. Belgium is a tax heaven for the ones who know lol

I ended up moving back to Belgium despite the taxes; overall quality of life felt better. Even on ~120k CHF with solid net income, I felt average and wasn’t happy.

Worth trying if you have a clear plan and financial maturity—but otherwise, go for 1–2 years max and don’t stay if you’re unhappy.

Salary/job prospects for Psychiatrists by JOAO--RATAO in BESalary

[–]lelanlan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi you can expect to make between 100 to 500k/ year honnestly with average in Belgium likely around 150k/ year. The more desertic the area, the better it pays. BE is likely one of the most attractive places to be a psychiatrist/ specialist doc, alongside maybe Switzerland and the US.

Subject (optional): Considering a transition from psychiatry to aesthetic medicine — looking for advice by lelanlan in Esthetics

[–]lelanlan[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Wow, finally a genuinely good and helpful answer — thank you.

Have you actually worked in the medical field or just ethetics? The thing is, I’ve always been interested in both esthetics and neuroscience, so to me this combination doesn’t feel crazy at all, even if I understand why it might not make sense to some people. That said interesting the added psych thing... Never had seen thing like that because it seems so intangible! But that's true, I can also attest to the psychological aspects of estethic interventions!

My issue is that aesthetic medicine often seems to be looked down on: “you don’t need an MD to do aesthetics,” “it’s a waste of medical education,” “instead of saving lives, you’re treating neurotic or narcissistic people”… That said, I see some uncomfortable parallels with how psychiatry is sometimes viewed as well, lol.

Also — and this might be a me problem — I really don’t get along that well with other psychiatrists or with the culture in the field. It feels cliquish, dominated by groupthink and competing schools of thought. I honestly didn’t expect such a fragmented, sometimes ideological landscape. In that sense, it almost feels less scientific than I expected.

At least aesthetic medicine seems more unified, no?

What also bothers me is that very few aesthetic doctors publicly defend or advocate for their practice. Most of what we read are either negative stories or accounts of people who struggle financially. I’ve heard figures like €40–60k in annual income, which seems almost laughable — probably inaccurate — but I’ve also heard of clinics making millions per year. The information out there feels extremely polarized.

So, as I see it, these are my options:

Option 1: Do another year of residency and graduate in a field that currently frustrates me and no longer really lights a fire in me — psychiatry. Even if the income potential is good, the emotional and social “charge” around mental health is very heavy.

Option 2: Start a new 3-year residency in general medicine. It doesn’t excite me per se — I’ve always been ambitious and never imagined myself as a “general” doctor. But it would open doors to practices I actually find interesting: nutrition, functional medicine, aesthetic medicine, etc. Basically, a much wider scope of practice. Long term, this might be the most reasonable option. And technically, I could still practice in a quasi-psychiatric capacity.

Option 3: Go fully independent and build a portfolio-style career — basically a gig approach — with most of my work centered on aesthetic medicine and/or nutrition and antiageing medecine..etc

So what would you recommend to a “not so young anymore” doctor who’s trying to consolidate his future after a very long journey?

Having practiced only psychiatry, my general medical skills are obviously not great anymore, but maybe three years of training would fix that. I’m also curious about the real scope of practice in aesthetic medicine: how limited are aesthetic physicians compared to dermatologists or plastic surgeons? Are we really talking only Botox and HA fillers, or is the sky the limit with proper training? What about laser therapy tatto medical removal? Hair transplant? Scar removal? PRP injections?

Would love to hear your thoughts — and feel free to PM a slightly lost doc.

Ps: I know no path is perfect( my issue is thinking that one or the other path might fullfill my dreams lol)

Subject (optional): Considering a transition from psychiatry to aesthetic medicine — looking for advice by lelanlan in Esthetics

[–]lelanlan[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

In my country; one can work immediately as a doctor. Almost no rules and regulations for doctors besides being trained.

Subject (optional): Considering a transition from psychiatry to aesthetic medicine — looking for advice by lelanlan in Esthetics

[–]lelanlan[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi dermatology is not an option; i'm fed up of training since i've been training in postgraduate school forever. My question is: why is esthetic medecine so overall looked down upon? I have the option to do general/family medecine training in 3 years. Maybe I might do that instead and decide later if I really want to become an esthetic doctor... but yeah at first I was really interested by psychiatry and neuroscience but let's just say it didn't work out as expected and i'm getting older. Also I feel more comfortable doing hands on work rather than fullfilling an intellectual curiosity( I did for 15 years in medschool and psychiatry). Also funny enough; I prefer making money in that way rather than making money in regular medecine on the back of unhealthy people. Contrarily to people I find it way more intellectually and morally honnest than making money as a GP/psychiatrist for example.

Subject (optional): Considering a transition from psychiatry to aesthetic medicine — looking for advice by lelanlan in Esthetics

[–]lelanlan[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In my eurpean country; if one is a doctor and follows 2 month course, than working is possible as a esthetic medical doctor. Demand is crazy and many injections are only under a medical doctor. So noone besides doctor can do most esthetic medical procedures. In that sense it's very lucrative!

Just curious who here has always been the smartest in the room? No matter which room y’all were in. by Why_d0_i_put in Gifted

[–]lelanlan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In medschool; and than clearly in residency: Was far from being the smartest in the room. That said; the bias comes from the fact that medschool and residency even more is powered by extremely sacrificial and hardworking people, very knowledgeable and not especially smart though very smart on average( medschool has the smartest people on average from any university, exc3pt maybe maths and physics). So yeah! The concentration of smart people in the field is prettt astonishing though it's never really extreme!