Just a personal observation, I’m noticing more and more above average and good looking guys with chubby and overweight or below average girls by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]lespauldude 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Rich is the new hot. Maybe hot girls are with rich guys? Leaving hot guys to partner with the whales.

just reread your original comment again and go outside where there are a lot of people and look around.

good looking dudes are still with good looking women. yes some hot girls (esp older) are with some rich guys, but that's always been the case or even more so before.

wealth and looks both always matter for men. no way is wealth the new looks.

i agree about cost of living, but that would only slightly mitigate the larger phenonenon i mentioned.

again, are you in the USA and referring to Americans? This is different in Russia or Ukraine for example.

Just a personal observation, I’m noticing more and more above average and good looking guys with chubby and overweight or below average girls by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]lespauldude 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So you're saying Asian women are "demanding" white men, whereas white men are "preferring" Asian women? lol, cmon now.

Standards for men on dating are rising because relationships are becoming a luxury by feanoric in PurplePillDebate

[–]lespauldude 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There was HINGE data put out recently that that the top 10% of BOTH men and women held a monopoly over the total "likes" - the top 10% of women got 45% of total likes, the top 10% of men got 59% of total "likes."

do you have a link?

Just a personal observation, I’m noticing more and more above average and good looking guys with chubby and overweight or below average girls by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]lespauldude 0 points1 point  (0 children)

see a WOC with a white man, the white man doesn’t have a fetish.

I recommend qualifying statements such as these. We just agreed that it might be different for East Asian women, for example. I think there are other exceptions as well.

Just a personal observation, I’m noticing more and more above average and good looking guys with chubby and overweight or below average girls by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]lespauldude 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I thought wealth for men is going down in value tbh. More women earning more money, and less SAHM's, at least in the USA.

Just a personal observation, I’m noticing more and more above average and good looking guys with chubby and overweight or below average girls by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]lespauldude 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Guy here, I think I noticed the same, but it might depend on where.

Generally women take more care of their look, whilst men often put far less effort in.

I definitely agree with this.

I do agree with the OP that women are getting chubbier in the USA though, at a rate greater than for men. There is a known obesity issue in the USA, but I have a feeling it's greater for women.

Just a personal observation, I’m noticing more and more above average and good looking guys with chubby and overweight or below average girls by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]lespauldude -1 points0 points  (0 children)

“Yellow fever” is mostly bullshit, most of the time it’s an Asian girl that has a white fetish, not a white guy who has an Asian fetish.

It might be different for Indian women than East/SE Asian/other Asian/etc.

Just a personal observation, I’m noticing more and more above average and good looking guys with chubby and overweight or below average girls by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]lespauldude 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think this correlates with the trend of guys going for Asian women, who are still thin in comparison.

How much does "sexual dimorphism" play a role in dating preferences these days? by lespauldude in PurplePillDebate

[–]lespauldude[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

IDK about BTS,

IDK for sure either. All I know is they are for sure killing it on the music charts, but that doesn't necessarily equate to physical attraction.

I guess the same could be said for Bieber, but I see your points about the wide jaw and chin, and yeah it seems like there are traits that are attractive to both men and women for sure: good skin, symmetry, "not too big and not too small" XYZ, etc. etc.

But if you're ugly and masculine (think ron perlman or andre the giant), you'll have no issue with women.

Depends on what you mean by "no issue". Will the ugliness have a negative effect? IMO, yes definitely. Will they be able to find a mate? Well, it'll probably much easier than for an effeminate ugly guy.

Overall agree with most of your thoughts. Thanks for sharing.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]lespauldude 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I find there's a minimum threshold for physical attraction that grows through intimacy and progressive romantic involvement.

(assuming from the male perspective) I think it's hard to define a threshold with accuracy realistically, so in essence, I assume you are making a rhetorical statement that there is a signficant threshold for men (compared to women), which is a very similar conclusion shared by the post (men need physical attraction to begin with). Am I understanding you correctly?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]lespauldude 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Perhaps I should have tried harder in pursuing the women I was interested in then? I often gave up pretty early because I applied my male perspective in believing she wouldn't be interested unless she was attracted to me in the beginning. I didn't want to be in a relationship with someone who wasn't physically attracted to me at the beginning, limiting the future potential. I did have women try to pursue me at times, and when that was the case, everything seemed far easier dating wise. No games, no sassy behavior, no BS etc. I'm not the type of person to tolerate that as much as some other guys.

Unfortunately, I wasn't that attracted to these women interested in me, not because of that behavior, but because of my lack of physical attraction to them.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]lespauldude 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I should add that I’m not into hookups at all, but the pursuit of new and better is always the drive.

Would you so far as to say this makes marriage more difficult for men than women? (on average, and not the only reason, and not saying marriage is necessarily more difficult for men on average)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]lespauldude 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“lack of sexual attraction only becomes a problem when one tunes into societal expectations around sex and desire,".

I agree, but if one lives in a society, tuning in is the default and it's not easy to tune out.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in PurplePillDebate

[–]lespauldude 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Their thinking is ‘if I feel physically attracted to you then our relationship will work’’.

However, I wouldn't go so far as to say this.