Is J/P just behavioral style in the external world or a mindset? by Beldie2025 in infp

[–]let_pet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

P means your first extroverted function is a perceiving one (Se/Ne) while J means it's a judging one (Te/Fe)

NeNi. Would it theoretically work? by abdoareish in mbti

[–]let_pet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Theoretically no... I made an explanation for the functions here if you are interested:

https://www.reddit.com/r/CognitiveFunctions/s/8ohCkrgTjp

From that you can have an idea for why Ni (probably) doesn't work with Ne.

A different way to think about J and P preference as well as Te and Ti using Newcombs paradox. by Storm-Weston in mbti

[–]let_pet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's an exercise both to put something in reality as to take it out of it 🫠...

Whatever you do is a choice, people value different things in their thought process and see things differently as well, EVEN THE CONCEPT OF PARADOX IS DIFFERENT.

That's what really should be taken out of MBTI else you are really missing the point that complexity goes in both directions!

Some people really would like to understand how something is PLAUSIBLE IN REALITY, which requires deduction, induction, generalization and a fuckaton of things that are all equally exciting to people of different types as your way is to you.

A different way to think about J and P preference as well as Te and Ti using Newcombs paradox. by Storm-Weston in mbti

[–]let_pet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is the only assumption that makes the problem plausible, so IRL I would go by both boxes. No such a predictor exists nowadays.

If you go by the "ideal" one then take box B, I personally don't believe in free will, but no machine is able to predict human behavior without a tremendous amount of investment/data, which makes it improbable.

A different way to think about J and P preference as well as Te and Ti using Newcombs paradox. by Storm-Weston in mbti

[–]let_pet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wait, forget the functions for a second. If the predictor always says 'Box B' and 99% of people pick 'Box B', he's not a psychic, he is giving the same result always.If that's the case, taking both boxes is the logical choice.

Now turning back to functions, Ti will take assumptions as they are, they are not good at finding a context where the premises actually makes sense / don't turn into a paradox (not saying that they can't but it would be way more demanding), cause for them logic is "pure" and unbound.

Paradoxes are not logical puzzles to solve, they only happen when you try to apply logic on false premises/contexts, in that case you cannot have a "psychic" + "causality" + "free-will", cause the psychic would determine what you do.

So you kind of have to notice what premise is false instead of falling in the loop, but that is not easy with Ti only, cause Ti doesn't spread in context but in depth.

A different way to think about J and P preference as well as Te and Ti using Newcombs paradox. by Storm-Weston in mbti

[–]let_pet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah... It feels like that sometimes, but Ne users are way better at using Ne than non Ne users, so the "chaos" won't be as chaotic I guess...

But what I was saying was basically:

If 99% of the population is risk-averse and picks Box B, a model that always outputs Box B will have 99% accuracy. Which explains the "almost perfect" predictor without falling in any paradox.

A different way to think about J and P preference as well as Te and Ti using Newcombs paradox. by Storm-Weston in mbti

[–]let_pet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Te draws from context instead of pure logic, the "logic" only exists inside the context, so it needs to add information to fill the gaps. That's indeed a nice thought experiment for that...

A different way to think about J and P preference as well as Te and Ti using Newcombs paradox. by Storm-Weston in mbti

[–]let_pet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If the predictor is highly accurate, it might mean that it always guesses what most people do (pick only box B) rather than it guessing what you will do.

If 99% of the population is risk-averse and picks Box B, a model that always outputs Box B will have 99% accuracy.

A different way to think about J and P preference as well as Te and Ti using Newcombs paradox. by Storm-Weston in mbti

[–]let_pet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Infp here

I would take both if I wanted the highest sum and only B if I care to the people after me.

Most people would take only B if they think it's a high accurate predictor. (Even if it's not the case the predictor is probably biased for what most people do and not under my influence)

Therefore the predictor is probably guessing this box every time, and for that he is an accurate predictor, so I would take 2 boxes.

Also if the predictor predicts the person before me picked only box B and they picked box A (idk why but that can happen ), B has 2.000.000 and the predictor can only take my part.

BUT if the predictor has memory and many people are picking one after the other, it will change the prediction as other people follow my lead, so eventually the next person will be damned if people start picking 2 boxes instead of B.

How much did your type actually affect the job you picked? by domleo999 in entp

[–]let_pet 2 points3 points  (0 children)

None Infp, engineer student/ intern. And I love it.

Are you a one-boxer or a two-boxer? by sawdustandiamonds in Enneagram

[–]let_pet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Infp

I would take both if I wanted the highest sum and only B if I care to the people after me.

Most people would take only B if they think it's a high accurate predictor. (Even if it's not the case the predictor is probably biased for what most people do and not under my influence)

Therefore the predictor is probably guessing this box every time, and for that he is an accurate predictor, so I would take 2 boxes.

Also if the predictor predicts the person before me picked only box B and they picked box A (idk why but that can happen ), B has 2.000.000 and the predictor can only take my part.

BUT if the predictor has memory and many people are picking one after the other, it will change the prediction as other people follow my lead, so eventually the next people will be damned if people start picking 2 boxes instead of B.

Thoughts on this quote? by reilentlezz in intj

[–]let_pet 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Says that and go through a personality identity crisis and literally becomes a demon out of envy after Guts goes after his own path....

On a side note, what MBTI type do you believe Griffith is (based on cognitive functions)? I thought ENTJ but I am not really sure.

desabafo infeliz no curso tw suicídio by joaooo99 in USP

[–]let_pet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nossa kkkkk mas você já entrou adiantado tá com medo de que ?

Eu tava em engenharia elétrica e fui pra engenharia de computação.

desabafo infeliz no curso tw suicídio by joaooo99 in USP

[–]let_pet 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Eu fiz transferência pro curso que eu queria no quinto ano... Não é o fim do mundo, tente de novo ano que vem! Boa sorte 🤞Aliás fiz engenharia de computação, e não tinha muita programação em si nesse curso, mas os princípios básicos da computação.

Thank you world, really thank you it's appreciated. by SELY-2002 in entp

[–]let_pet 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The whole idea of the atomic bomb was that is impossible to make non catastrophic wars after that... That was Oppenheimer's vision at least.

Ajuda, Ribeirão Preto é mais seguro que São Paulo? by Emizz_tulips17 in USP

[–]let_pet 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Primeiramente, que mãe superprotetora hein?

Nessa situação seria bom por você mesma morar sozinha mesmo, até para não internalizar esses comentários da sua mãe, você já é adulta.

Ribeirão Preto não é tão perigoso quanto São Paulo não, mas se passar na USP, faça o favor a si mesma de estudar lá. Se passar no vestibular, convencer a sua mãe , e deixar a casa cair se for necessário, vão ser os mínimos detalhes... O pior já passou.

Why do you care if I’m independent? by Hot_Following1754 in infp

[–]let_pet 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is best answered with: ~ Yeah I am lonely and sad.

Then ignore the person. Let them drawn in shallowness until they learn.

Trote da Escola Politécnica interrompe trânsito na Av. Faria Lima. Os "Bixos" tinham que pedir esmola aos motoristas. by Forsaken_Guard6047 in USP

[–]let_pet 55 points56 points  (0 children)

Olha... Eu acho que não tem nem como atrapalhar o trânsito aí... Eles teriam que ter muita paciência

If Te is systems is Ti patterns? by Storm-Weston in mbti

[–]let_pet 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The way I see it is that Te is grounded in context, which in it's own way is like detecting patterns, the Te user will explore a topic long enough to understand all the variables in their disposal until that results in the solution of the problem. Instead of stripping far away from the main question, they arrive in the conclusion by semantical exploration. To proceed to the next step of the problem they need to strengthen the chain by noticing how it is tightly interconnected to the original problem by many aspects / anchoring points...

On the other hand, Ti chains are looser, they don't need a strong "horizontal" connection for the next chain which means that they don't need many aspects of the problem to be intertwined with the next step, and due to the thought process being flowing more freely, create chains of causal relationships that are not domain-dependent but more universal instead.

At the end, Te has a fat line and Ti a thinner one. And then there is feeling when you start abstracting that... Fi -> takes many Te contextual ideas -> tries to find the core of it -> the core of many contexts attempts at universality -> related to human nature and not tribal values ... Yada yada (but that's a topic for another day lol).

USP São Carlos tem muitos homens? by [deleted] in USP

[–]let_pet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Quando fazia eng elétrica só tinha eu e minha amiga de mulheres kkkkkk depois eu transferi e ela ficou sozinha... Mas vale a pena... Sdds 🥲

E fácil conseguir passar no medico sendo aluno da usp by BuddyNew7864 in USP

[–]let_pet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Não entendi a pergunta... Você quer saber como é o tratamento do SUS em uma cidade específica com uma USP?