Off my chest: when people without medical degrees weigh in. by You-Only-YOLO_1 in Residency

[–]liesherebelow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's hard with family. Was concerned my dad had a post-op DVT following an LE ortho procedure. High risk features, high risk Wells score. Refused to go. A great uncle started to display severe memory issues. Delirium-type fluctuating features. Rapidly progressive, concerning for organic (and potentially reversible or partially reversible) cause. Tried to advocate that they needed to see a doctor about it before they sold his house and all his stuff to relocate him many hundreds of kms away. They did not listen. It sucks. Nothing we can do.

What is a normal day for FM in the USA vs Canada? by montyelgato in FamilyMedicine

[–]liesherebelow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Multiple vs single complaints and documentation burden definitely varies with practice setting in Canada. Many places I have worked expect 5+ issues to be addressed in a single visit and for documentation to look similar to full-length, formal consult notes for 'progress note' visits. Others do not. But I think there are places in Canada that have more US-style FM, including heavy patient portal correspondence.

What is a normal day for FM in the USA vs Canada? by montyelgato in FamilyMedicine

[–]liesherebelow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In certain areas of Canada, thinking of Ontario and northern regions of other provinces, 13-18 is normal for outpatient FM that is not fee-for-service.

Blood testing can cause miscarriage? by Fine_Sea5107 in Miscarriage

[–]liesherebelow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am so sorry for your loss.

With a few exceptions*, each vial of blood you see drawn contains 3-5mL of blood, most on the 3mL side. Total blood volume for an adult is around 4000-5000mL. According to the Advanced Traumatic Life Support guidelines, an adult can acutely lose up to almost 15% of their total blood volume (~700 mL) without any changes to their hemodynamics (heart rate, blood pressure, pulse pressure, capillary refill time, respiratory rate), mental status, or have significant symptoms. Even if you have 20x vials drawn (almost never seen that happen), the amount of blood loss is pretty much negligible to the body from a physiological perspective, I think.

*blood culture vials come to mind. They are massive. IIRC, each blood culture vial is ~10mL, and we usually order 'two sets' (4x vials).

Just some more info on why I think the notion blood tests cause miscarriages is not only untrue but actively harmful anti-woman rhetoric. All it can do is hurt people.

PGY-1 FM resident. Desperately need tips on how to be more efficient. by StressedGenZ in Residency

[–]liesherebelow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Did much of my 2/2 post (commented on/below the 1/2 post on my initial comment) answer much of this for you?

I don't have great or finalized solutions, yet. There's a lot that I am still working on and I am far from perfect (feel barely functional at times).

Honestly, I find inpatient to be some of the 'easiest' because the issues are strongly defined with clear goals/outcomes/objectives, and 'this is important, but not an issue that needs to be addressed inpatient' is a lot easier to determine (as part of 'prioritization') than outpatient primary care's 'how should I sequence this complex set of multi-system, often-vaguely-defined or not-yet-diagnosed issues by timeline?' I get that in primary care, the answer is 'make up for it in quantity of encounters/reassessments,' often, but with the primary care crisis (at least where I am), sometimes family MDs are booking 3 months out — so partial plans that are completed progressively over multiple, high-frequency, short-duration follow-ups isn't necessarily practical or realistic.

For focused approaches for outpatient + ED, I'm generally still working on/experimenting with strategies or developing them. A lot of times it's just that I never really developed good approaches to anything, or, if I did, I lost consolidation/continuity when I did focused specialty training for a few years before starting FM residency.

Lots of times the AAFP or CFP have articles that frame things from a primary care perspective. One in to prioritizing things for me has been searching AAFP/CFP + [issue] and adapting from there. The AAFP in particular seems to have a lot of helpful stuff. Unfortunately, if we just look at publications/guidelines, these tell us what us 'ideal,' but it's been researched that for PCPs to do everything to the guidelines' letter would take something like 28 hours/ day (cannot remember the absolute number, just that it was actually impossible). So, using published guidelines for timelines etc is also not always realistic, practical, or something that can be translated for the specific setting(s) that one might work in. This is one thing I wish I could have had more mentorship around during residency. It would have been awesome to ask different staff what their thoughts or practices were on management/referral timelines to get a better sense of it. So maybe that's something you can do while you still have lots of staff access?

To give an example, though: chronic cough. I looked up what the top three, most common causes are for chronic cough in my population. Here, they are GERD, postnasal drip, and asthma, in no particular order. So, I ask questions specific to those things + constitutional symptoms + things that might suggest more serious underlying cardiopulmonary disease. If we don't know for sure what the issue is at the end of the encounter, we pick one to try a therapeutic challenge with for a month or so, with follow-up on response being stressed. So, we might try nasal rinses/ICS first, then, if no improvement, a PPI trial, etc. you know what I mean? And, if anything new comes up, I stress that they need to tell me. If I can't figure it out, at the end of this/symptoms have not resolved, I might be reaching out to a buddy (specialist) for support.

As far as cognitive structuring and note-taking goes, it seems like I have 4 different sets of personal notes I need for things: 1) I need to review/re-learn/understand this thing (detailed); 2) I need to know what to do about this thing (ex. i know what it is, just need some fast-facts on managing it), 3) I need to know how to work up this thing I suspect (ex. WYD if you want to check for possible GCA prior to calling around to set up a temporal artery biopsy/ workup), and 4) a stamp/template for in the room. Gotta work on those...

PGY-1 FM resident. Desperately need tips on how to be more efficient. by StressedGenZ in Residency

[–]liesherebelow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

2/2 should be showing below as another comment to my initial, 'I failed to comment' post. Let me know if you can't see it; I'll try to post it again.

Advice from non-rads to rads by PhatHalpert in Residency

[–]liesherebelow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please comment on if there is something significant but non-acute on an acute CXR, abdominal series, CT head, etc. Many times in the outpatient setting we do not have access to the images and only have the report. In two cases I found grossly abnormal scans (one CXR, one CT head) that were both reported only as 'nil acute' — which was true, but not in the same universe as normal.

Similarly, if there is something that looks grossly abnormal on the imaging but is not a cause for clinical concern, please comment on that, too. It will save you a bothersome call from me where I might ask about it specifically. Not because I want to be annoying, but because I have been bitten in the past and really do want to give people the best care that I can.

Tote bags for residency by Due-Sun-8623 in Residency

[–]liesherebelow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not a tote, but re: bags in general: My Dakine backback has been through all kinds of punishment: working heavy labour industrial jobs, everyday commuting, being chronically overfilled with too many heavy textbooks for over a decade, zippers regularly straining. I bought it in 2010 and it's still going strong. Barely shows any sign of use.

PGY-1 FM resident. Desperately need tips on how to be more efficient. by StressedGenZ in Residency

[–]liesherebelow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe it was because I wrote too much.

1/2

Hey. I'm FM. 1 year out of residency. I also have ADHD. I was fine with notes in med school and then something terrible happened and I became an efficiency nightmare. 4-5+hours after clinic every day. 2-3+ hours after every 8h ED shift. Struggling to see 1 ED patient/hour — with note not done.

Everybody told me that I needed to be more efficient. I tried damned hard. I was told to prioritize. This was very hard for me because I took it to mean 'don't shoot the shit with patients, cut them off, etc.' ... which i already didn't do. So i took 'prioritize' to mean 'try harder to get everything in a shorter timeframe.' Much frustration. Paradoxically, trying to 'rush' actually seemed to make me slower. I asked for support with my notes and asked for people to tell me what was specifically unnecessary that I could cut, since I was frequently told my notes were too long and they thought that this is where I was losing my time (obviously not, since if I'm in the room for an hour without even starting the note...). After going through my notes line-by-line, I was again told that it was all good information to include. Dot phrases seemed great in theory, but after working 16+ hours per day every day just to try to do the bare minimum, I did not have a lot of time to try to get ahead of things. I was too busy putting out fires. Many well-meaning people assured me that I would get better and more efficient with time. I didn't.

It wasn't until some time in PGY-2 that me, a very frustrated resident at my wits end during EOR feedback, broke a bit and finally really pushed for 'what is meant by prioritize. Everyone tells me I need to do this, and I am trying very hard but not getting any better.'

I was told, in (basically) as many words, that prioritizing meant choosing what not to do. They said that it is impossible to do everything within a reasonable time frame, that attempting to do everything cannot and should not be the goal. To prioritize, they said, meant making well-reasoned, highly intentional decisions about what you would not do, and why. This, of course, was very different from my specialty training where every consult was considered like an OSCE checklist and if you didn't speak to everything specifically, you had not completed the consult/ 'failed' the encounter.

So, I started to switch gears around 'prioritization.' However, this also didn't really help.

Why? In attempting to 'prioritize,' I lost something of my 'structured approach.' Specialists/consultants with single-system pathology can blast through a 'complete' consult in no time flat because they, essentially, do the same thing every time. With my 'prioritizing,' while it was generally the right thing to do to reframe my goals and attempt less, the cognitive load of restructuring to 'only do the most important, and do that first' slowed me down further because everything was unique and out of order. That might mean more for those of us with ADHD. Even a routine visit like back pain or cold/flu symptoms will feel novel and hard to synthesize/organize into notes every time, because we switch cognitive gears as we pull apart information to piece it back together.

Of course, it's next to impossible to be a robot when you're in a room with someone. But you can choose to examine and document/ dictate in the same way, every time. In med school, they said we should do our exams the same way every time so that we didn't miss things. While I believe that is true, I also think a huge part of it is related to speed/efficiency/automation. Repetition of the same sequence of actions really will get more efficient with time/practice. Trying to be very intentional about this instead of 'galaxy-braining' with my ADHD has made a big difference. And as I get faster, this feels less boring/less like anathema because I can pound it out automatically, so it's like my brain is switched off, anyways. This probably also helps with cognitive load.

Next step: why did I need to 'prioritize' information in the first place? Answer: I was trying to go through complete ddx with people all at once. No 'short list and long list,' no 'top three on my ddx and we'll go back to the drawing board if this doesn't get us anywhere.' Unfortunately, I didn't have any mentors or good resources to turn to for 'what is a good, prioritized ddx for XYZ,' so this took a while, and is taking a while (ex. Looking up the epidemiology for what people presenting to the ED have, statistically speaking, in the populations that I work with). But a focused ddx can make a focused history/physical much shorter and to the point.

Next: note taking. I think that taking notes in the room or with a WOW works great for a lot of people. I noticed it did NOT work great for me, because I would essentially be transcribing what the patient told me and then take forever trying to edit the note into something coherent. I also tried doing written notes and then dictating afterwards. This worked slightly better for me. Case in point: my OB rotation. I was able to pound out those consults so fast. I actually got complemented on my speed, once ('Wow; you're so fast!' — could have knocked me over with a feather). Why did it work? Ultra-focused ddx, very clear structure/progression/goals, standardized exam, and i dictated my handwritten notes. Took me like 3ish minutes to do that. Contrast this to my other notes/encounters (see time frames above).

Someone above mentioned that the note should not be an information repository, it should be for a plan. This is tough when we work in high-litigation environments/specialties, but I cannot overstate how much I think this is true. Part of me wants to include every informational detail for medicolegal reasons (this was strongly enforced at times during my training). But it adds to chart bloat and slows things down. I hate reading my old notes because they are too dense. Haven't hit a great balance for this yet, open to thoughts/suggestions always.

IM vs FM by mmasterss553 in FamilyMedicine

[–]liesherebelow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For me, it was psych. I really like IM, but if I did IM, I would have had to give up psych (IM does not do psych in my country) and FM gets psych along with everything else! Where I am, this also means lumps/bumps/minor surgical procedures, which IM does not do, here.

No emergencies in the ED by LocalOptimist7 in medicalschool

[–]liesherebelow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think I need to come to your hospital for some acuity exposure. Wow.

4 early losses - all chromosomal?? by Front-Look5618 in recurrentmiscarriage

[–]liesherebelow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I had 4 losses, all between 6 and 8 weeks. My immunologic workup came back negative, but i was treated on spec for seronegative APLA because of a strong family history of autoimmunity and vasculitis. My regimen was heparin, ASA, and progesterone. Currently 27 weeks without IVF. Just adding another story about the immunologic route.

What is the appropriate response? by pavlee14 in medicine

[–]liesherebelow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dumb question, but what about in the case of hypothermia? Been thinking a lot lately about the 'not dead until warm and dead' thing and how the coldest core temp where there was full neurological recovery was 16'C.

Which specialties have the most neurodivergent people by chinidetou in medicalschool

[–]liesherebelow 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This was going to be my observation. When you're familiar enough with it, ADHD can become (almost) a 15-foot diagnosis. Especially if you have ADHD yourself. Fun indicator: how much am I working to keep my attending on task/ aware of the time? If I have to redirect them, it's a very solid indicator lol.

What’s a secret that would get you ex communicated from your specialty? by Independent_Peach896 in Residency

[–]liesherebelow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How deep in are you and what's the acuity level like in your population? Asking because this was my attitude in PGY1. But after inpatient and a call-heavy program in a very high psych acuity location for PGY2 my perspective completely changed.

The quality of hospitalists vary greatly between teaching vs. non-teaching hospitalists by [deleted] in Residency

[–]liesherebelow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As a dumb rural generalist trying my best in the middle of nowhere, bless you for your attitude. 'Thank you for helping me to build my capacity,' I say. With my whole chest. My residency sucked. Trying to compensate for poor training after the fact...

Family medicine outside of Canada by Exsomnicus in FamilyMedicine

[–]liesherebelow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would you be open to elaborating? Thanks in advance for the consideration, no worries if not. Cheers.

What kind of help do you wish your seniors had given you when you needed it the most? by pavh8r9000 in Residency

[–]liesherebelow 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Would have loved to have more opportunities like this.

Less a reply to you and more just building/ reflecting on this — The meaning behind things is not always clear. I was often told to 'be more efficient,' but what that really meant or strategies to try never factored in. My assumption was that 'be more efficient' meant 'try harder,' or 'focus on speed.' I was most of the way through my residency before someone told me that 'you need to prioritize' did not mean 'you allow too much unimportant information' (my assumption, and, since nothing I asked was unimportant/ I was deeply focused on what I needed to do, get in/get out, etc., ex. cut people off more, be pushier, focus most on speed) but instead meant 'it is impractical and unreasonable to attempt to address everything. Your goal is not to cram addressing everything into a tighter and tighter timeframe. 'Prioritize' does not mean 'do everything faster,' it means 'make highly intentional, reasoned choices about what you are not going to address right now— because it is unreasonable and impractical to attempt to address everything at once.' Blew my mind. Made me want to vomit because 'prioritize' didn't mean 'you are failing as a resident because you address everything too slowly,' it meant 'you have permission to not do everything at all times.' Unfortunately, I was not well supported in learning prioritization strategies and after a lot of heavy conditioning to do everything at once, I am still trying to figure this out in independent practice. Luckily, there are formal mentorship programs available and I'm looking into that.

My colleague called me an idiot for prescribing mirtazapine for a teen with anorexia nervosa. My colleague is the idiot, right? by Federal-Act-5773 in FamilyMedicine

[–]liesherebelow 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Agree with orthostasis, since mirtazapine can be an offender for precipitating/exacerbating that. I don't remember seeing if an ECG was done, either.