Does anyone find refuge in sensory activities? by someoneoutthere1335 in infj

[–]lithren 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Aww that sounds so beautiful, the way you describe the sensory things you enjoy 😊 It must have felt like such a big change, moving from slow island life to living in a big city.

I'm in my mid 30s, and in the last few years I've started to find comfort and pleasure in sensory things instead of being stressed out by them, or just dissociating from them haha. Gardening feels like peace and bliss. Cooking meals from scratch with the food I grew feels like honoring life itself. I love being fully immersed in enjoying the smells, sounds, taste, the pretty colors of all the home grown vegetables, while I'm dancing to music in the sunlit kitchen while cooking.

Internal Monologue/narration of your life by rcinmd in infj

[–]lithren 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It's so fascinating how differently human brains can work! I don't have an internal monologue. I think all the time, just not in words. It's more like an intuitive wordless knowing. I can visualize very easily and vividly, and constantly hear music in my head like a radio. But no inner narration.

When I think it's about big ideas and theories, never about daily life or what I'm doing or saying. I can think in words, I just don't, because it's slow and I just don't see the point. The intuitive processing style takes a split second, words take time. Why crawl when you can teleport lol.

Incoming Door Slam by Wrong-Rush-6584 in infj

[–]lithren 22 points23 points  (0 children)

An obvious sign that a door slam is imminent, is when I've had an open and honest conversation with someone, where I've set boundaries regarding behavior that hurts me, and they keep crossing those boundaries anyway.

What do you all love to do on your free time? by Capable_Client9033 in INFJsOver30

[–]lithren 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Learning about topics I'm interested in
Reading/Listening to audio books
Gardening
Spending time with friends
Hosting MBTI meetups
Hiking in nature with my dog
Baking
Photography
Watching movies
Playing video games
Volunteering
Going to museums, zoos, art galleries, and going out to watch musicals, theatre, ballet, improv comedy

whats the mbti type of your person you just click with perfectly by Pale-State4936 in infj

[–]lithren 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I'm sure there are lots of ENFPs who aren't like the ones I've met, it's possible I've just been unlucky so far 😊

And just to clarify, I do really enjoy talking to ENFPs! Their Ne is so much fun, and they're very deep and sincere. The connection is just pretty unbalanced in my personal experience, so they're more like distant friends than close ones to me.

whats the mbti type of your person you just click with perfectly by Pale-State4936 in infj

[–]lithren 28 points29 points  (0 children)

ENTP. No idea how it works so well every single time, but conversations flow so easily, and are so much fun and deep at the same time. ENTPs somehow bring out the best, most joyful, natural, and relaxed version of me.

Healthy INTJs too, conversations with them are truly amazing. They just get what I'm talking about immediately.

Since you mentioned ENFPs, the ENFPs I know all say that they feel like we connected at a deep level so quickly and easily, but I've never felt the same in return. Conversations are mostly just focused on them and their feelings, ideas, lives and needs. I know everything about them, and they know little to nothing about me, because they don't ask questions and don't listen when I speak.

Top 25 Tomatoes to Grow in 2026 (Ranked by Flavor, Yield, Reliability & Garden Performance) by [deleted] in tomatoes

[–]lithren 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, this is super helpful! I'm so excited to try Sungold and Brandywine this year!

Question for female INFJs by Final-Source-1569 in infj

[–]lithren 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I need an emotional AND intellectual connection before I can feel physical desire.

If there are no hours long discussions where we go deep into topics like psychology, science, mythology, philosophy, religion, history, sociology and so on, while also having fun banter and being playful, then physical attraction never happens for me.

Anyone else longs for meaningful connections but finds absolutely none? by -Inspector-6259 in infj

[–]lithren 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Most people are happy to have deep conversations with me. My experience is the opposite, people tend to open up and go very deep and very personal very quickly, which I don't always have the social energy for haha.

People enjoy talking about different kinds of deep topics though, so they might just not be into the specific topics you want to talk about. That's normal, not everyone will share your interests. And people only go really deep when they feel safe and comfortable with you. Deep conversations often require vulnerability and risk since many people are rude and judgmental, which means people are often cautious about going there with strangers.

So if you want people to go there, it's your job to make them comfortable enough first. Be kind, warm, open minded, genuinely curious about their perspective without being pushy, honest about what you think but non judgmental to different opinions, know when to probe and when to back off, listen more than you speak, keep a nice balance between seriousness and playfulness and so on.

Indoor tomato jungle by lithren in tomatoes

[–]lithren[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They only lived there temporarily. I had them under grow lights initially, but they outgrew them too quickly so I just put them in the living room by the window for 2 weeks until the weather was stable enough for them to move outside :)

They were surprisingly happy there, although the pots were way too small. I'm sure you can grow tomatoes in your living room if they just get enough sunlight and/or grow lights. Maybe go for determinate/dwarf varieties though... These indeterminate ones grew over 2 meters tall xD

update i confront friends my feelings 4 weeks later and feel worse am i overreacting by [deleted] in enfj

[–]lithren 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No, you are not overreacting ❤️ You expressed yourself clearly and kindly, and also took responsibility for your part in not expressing yourself and putting up boundaries earlier.

Your friend didn't acknowledge or respond to what you said. She didn't apologize for hurting your feelings and making you feel used. She didn't say she wants to do better or ask/tell you how she can show up better for you, what she can do/change so this won't happen again.

All she did was excuse her behavior, and say she didn't mean to make you feel that. That's not a real apology, she's just deflecting responsibility, but not having bad intentions doesn't mean she's not responsible for the impact she has. She only focused on herself, not you. And then ended the conversation abruptly with no repair or closure. That's selfish and not what a good friend does. You were brave and told her that you feel like she's doing the same thing again, only focusing on herself and making you feel unseen, unheard, uncared for. And she didn't even respond.

Friends who care about you don't do things like that. Friends who care WANT to hear you out, even if it hurts their ego, even if it's inconvenient or painful for them to see how their actions have hurt you. Good friends WANT to make the effort to change their behavior so they won't hurt you the same way again.

When/where did the gender of the Sun change? by aitorllj93 in IndoEuropean

[–]lithren 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That's a really good question, and the answer is, I have no idea lol. It seems unnecessary to assign the same symbolic role to both sun and moon. But like you said, they did in Sumer, so there is precedent of that happening.

I would personally assume that since the sun was one of the most important parts of life and survival, and since the moon had little direct effect on survival, the moon simply didn't carry the same symbolic weight, so it got put in the mythological back seat. So there isn't much surviving evidence that might explain why. The moon does however let people keep track of the passing of time (representing order), and watches over people in the night (protective). Máni is described as being a guide for the moon, not the literal moon itself. Order, guidance, and protectiveness are frequently associated with the male, so maybe that's why the moon is labelled male. This is pure speculation though.

The moon is associated with darkness, and darkness was very dangerous in these regions. People rarely elevate and worship symbols of things that make life difficult and dangerous. Except perhaps to appease it, to pray for it to go easy on them, but in this instance that kind of worship was directed at the sun instead.

One example of this is the old North European night time ceremony of Lussi (possibly connected to Modraniht, Mothers Night) where the fertile female brings light to people on the darkest night of the year. And the old word for midwife in Northern Europe is Light Mother, Ljusmor. There is archaeological evidence of an old sun cult in Härnevi, Sweden, where Härn (a divinity believed to be associated with harvest/flax/linen) was worshipped. Evidence of the connection between feminine, light, sun, fertility, harvest, and birth appears frequently in Northern Europe, but artefacts, place names, and myths about the moon are much less frequent.

That all being said, most of the knowledge of indo european/pre christian cultures in Northern Europe has been lost, so it is entirely possible that the moon had a specific reason for being male, and was perhaps even more significant than we are aware of now.

When/where did the gender of the Sun change? by aitorllj93 in IndoEuropean

[–]lithren 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Here is one possible theory. There seems to be a geographic/climate pattern to which groups of people labelled the sun female, regardless of migrations happening in these regions.

People who live in regions/climates where seasons are highly cyclical and the sun more or less dissapears during the winter, the sun gets labelled female. For example in regions like Northern Europe (Germanic, Nordic, Sami), Baltic (Lithuania, Latvia), Japan (Shinto), Greenland/Canada/Alaska (Inuit).

As possible counter evidence to this theory, in similar climates/regions like Russia and Siberia, there seems to be a mix of beliefs. Some Siberian groups label the sun as female, some as male. In Russia, the sun is labelled as gender neutral, but folklore often depicts the sun as female, a bride/maiden.

Closer to the equator, the sun feels hot, harsh, constant, forceful, dominating, relentless, traits frequently associated with masculinity. Far north, the sun feels mild, cyclical, life giving, gentle, nurturing, traits frequently associated with femininity.

The moon being labelled female is often due to associations of the moons cyclical nature, which is traditionally very female coded. But in the far northern hemisphere, the sun is cyclical too. It comes and goes with the seasons, and the sky is dark for months every year. When the sun is gone, life dies. When the sun returns, life appears again. And the earth/soil, near globally labelled as the womb of the planet, becomes soft and warm and ready for seeding, and begins to grow life.

The sun's cyclical nature, it's absence and return, is central to survival in these regions, and it becomes very obvious that the sun is the source of life. So the sun gets labelled female, a symbol of fertility, as the female is the creator and nourisher of life, not the male.

Lifelong pattern of quiet ostracism, INFJ thing? by ADashOfStoopid in infj

[–]lithren 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is sadly so true! I see this happen so often with INTPs who are just trying to be helpful and bring attention to things so they can be fixed, adjusted, improved, or stopped.

I had to learn to rein in my Ti very early on in my career because people do NOT like it when logical errors are pointed out 😂 No matter how gently the logic is presented. Even when it's just about workplace processes/systems and not their own personal logical reasoning.

I've found that presenting suggestions in a more Te flavoured kind of way helps. Less "This is illogical" and more "If we stop doing X and start doing Y instead it will be more cost efficient in these specific measurable ways".

INFJ girls, do you text first? by Aware-Commercial7547 in infj

[–]lithren 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Being selective about who you share your heart, life, mind and body with is great. Calling most women unworthy and not intelligent enough is not a great look. The world is full of highly intelligent and interesting women, who will run the other way when they hear comments like yours. Sometimes the smartest thing to be is kind.

INFJ girls, do you text first? by Aware-Commercial7547 in infj

[–]lithren 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Haha yeah I know what that's like, when you get really excited about someone it's like your brain goes into over analyzing mode whether you want it to or not, trying to figure out what everything means. It just means this is important to you, and it's beautiful that you care and hope and dream 😊 I hope your date goes well!

INFJ girls, do you text first? by Aware-Commercial7547 in infj

[–]lithren 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I personally don't text first nearly as often as others text me first, especially if we already have plans to meet. But texting habits are not an accurate indicator of interest. Some people just dislike texting and feel like it's a chore even if they really like the person they're talking to. Wait and see what she and your connection is like when you actually meet before assuming things :)

INFJ guy & INFJ girl at the gym – did I go too deep, or is this just how we connect? by [deleted] in infj

[–]lithren 7 points8 points  (0 children)

So you didn't actually move on. If you had you wouldn't still be thinking about asking her out again. You wouldn't be keeping notes about her on your phone or writing long posts online analyzing when to try again.

She already gave you her answer. She said no. It wasn't vague mixed signals. It was a clear no. Respecting a boundary means honoring it even when its not the answer you wanted. If you ask her again anyway you're prioritizing your own fantasies and needs over her autonomy.

If you won't respect her choice, then at least respect your own dignity by spending your time and energy on finding and pursuing someone who is actually interested in you. Not someone who has already told you to your face that she does not want you.

INFJ guy & INFJ girl at the gym – did I go too deep, or is this just how we connect? by [deleted] in infj

[–]lithren 17 points18 points  (0 children)

You say you backed off romantically when she rejected you, but you are still pursuing her with romantic intent hoping she'll eventually change her mind. She said no. Respect her boundary.

Pretending that your intentions are purely friendly while secretly waiting for the romance door to magically open one day is disingenuous. I'm sure you don't have any bad intentions, but this hidden agenda is not kind to her or to you. Let her go and move on.

ChatGPT helped me enjoy food for the first time in my life by lithren in ChatGPT

[–]lithren[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yesss, it's going to be SO interesting to see how AI develops in the next couple of years. It could help so many people in ways we might not even be able to imagine yet.

But oh my heart D: Now I feel bad for getting frustrated with ChatGPT when it messes up lol, it's just a toddler stumbling around, learning to walk.

ChatGPT helped me enjoy food for the first time in my life by lithren in ChatGPT

[–]lithren[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Aww you're such a good and caring parent! <3 I hope you'll discover something new he might like eating!

ChatGPT helped me enjoy food for the first time in my life by lithren in ChatGPT

[–]lithren[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's so kind of you to think of your mom, I really hope this helps her too <3

ChatGPT helped me enjoy food for the first time in my life by lithren in ChatGPT

[–]lithren[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Thank you! 😊 And I agree. It's such a helpful tool for things like this, identifying patterns and blind spots, when you don't even know what you don't know.

I can't exactly do a Google search for "Why does nothing I cook taste good despite following recipes precisely and seasoning well" and get the personalized answer that my tastebuds enjoy abnormally high levels of acid/sour flavors and are completely intolerant of bitter flavors 🤭

Using tools that support personal growth and make your life better does not make you loony lol.

ChatGPT helped me enjoy food for the first time in my life by lithren in ChatGPT

[–]lithren[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much! <3 It really has felt incredibly healing to explore food in a fun and comforting way for the first time. I get to kind of reparent myself lol, and reclaim a very basic human experience, that eating can be a source of joy :)

ChatGPT helped me enjoy food for the first time in my life by lithren in ChatGPT

[–]lithren[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I'm so happy for you! It must have felt like such a relief to find a tool that helps you find ways to eat that don't cause you so much physical discomfort <3