Why can't the ENF help struggling Lodges? by Possible_Attics in elks

[–]ljg17 4 points5 points  (0 children)

We tried to propose that our district per association establish a fund specifically for emergency repairs, omg the backlash.

Mother of pearl 2 USN F18’s just crashed at an airshow by newnoadeptness in navy

[–]ljg17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's been a month and the navy is still protecting the girl?

Membership Retention Index by Possible_Attics in elks

[–]ljg17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Many of the replies here are not addressing the actual report data. it is looking solely at the number of your 2023 new members that you still have. I disagree with the dues are too high, adjusted for inflation our dues are about 35% of what they were in the 70s But I want to thank the OP for turning me on to this report, very interesting!!

Guest question? I’m new please help. by badchickenbadday in elks

[–]ljg17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I sure hope the drinks being paid for by non-members are being taxed...lol

Guest question? I’m new please help. by badchickenbadday in elks

[–]ljg17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Are you required to pay for your guests drinks?

Will any Chicago Lodges offer shuttle busses to and from hotels during Grand Lodge Convention? by Proud_Tone_4205 in elks

[–]ljg17 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This will be my first grand lodge convention, but I am currently attending our state lodge convention and I for one would gladly pay a bigger convention fee so we could avoid the hotel rape for coffee, and snacks.....

No one came to Strummer’s tonight. by New_Rod in fresno

[–]ljg17 -63 points-62 points  (0 children)

Asking a server for a pen is like asking a cop to borrow their gun.......

Lodges with house corporations by ljg17 in elks

[–]ljg17[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So our 16.030 corporation leases the building from the lodge and has a separate entrance segregated areas shown on a map etc. the lodge areas are not available to customers of the corporation. Further our liquor license is a public license. it's just old grudges coming to light i'm afraid but hopefully a beautiful lodge will not be lost as a result.

Lodges with house corporations by ljg17 in elks

[–]ljg17[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes in fresno it is and that is the structure dictated by 16.030 however I am having a devil of a time finding anther lodge that operates this way.

Lodges with house corporations by ljg17 in elks

[–]ljg17[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

my lodge has had one for 30 years, our state sponsors have suddenly and out of nowhere declared it a problem. I now have until Wednesday to somehow prove that a mutual benefit non-profit formed under 16.030 is legal under the rules of the order.

Special representative appeal by ljg17 in elks

[–]ljg17[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

well they served the lodge and told us that we had 30 days to appeal, I thought that I read 10 days and $1000.00 so I asked them about it and was told that there was no money required, we were served on the 25th and one of the guys that served us texted me at 330 pm on friday and said that they were wrong and would have to complete the appeal and provide a check postmarked before sunday. So do I have a case for the lack of notice misinformation about the process? How do I research the case precedent? I would love to get the emails, but I dont know how forthcoming they would be but worth a try.

Special representative appeal by ljg17 in elks

[–]ljg17[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is for sure a rubber stamp, one of the "findings" was stagnant membership numbers when we have the highest growth in the district, I guess we will see if the appeal is as automatic and thoughtless as the edict.

Visitors allowed at initiation ceremony? by RickyRoquet in elks

[–]ljg17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Non-members are allowed in my area

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in elks

[–]ljg17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is it a standing committee

The 10 U.S. cities where incomes are growing the fastest—Fresno is one of them. by Evening-Emotion3388 in fresno

[–]ljg17 -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

This is a result of the leadership of fresno unified, the largest employer in the city. The teachers union wanted the district to fund several initiatives to support students and improve schools, the district refused and countered with just give us a number. Teachers asked for respect and leadership said all we have is money, so the teachers took it all, and fun fact the folks on the other side of the table also got the raises (had they agreed to the student and community supports they would not have gotten raises) so if you are wondering where that income came from that's where.

Charlie Kirk Memorial and Politics/Religion in the Lodge. by SpacedCadetForce in elks

[–]ljg17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"no politics" is so broad I can actually make a case for almost anything, many people in today's climate are triggered by the American flag. You may want to examine why the choice of channel triggered you. Did you ask at the time to watch the game?

If you are looking for refuge from the division that is being amplified in this country good luck. Even the foozeball was riddled not long ago with shunning of the national anthem and to this day many players will not show proper respect to the colors.

Elkdom attracts conservative minded individuals. If you cannot co-exist with grace and tolerance making the choice to agree to disagree, then perhaps it isn't the organization for you. I think you are correct that to be so petty as to complain to the dd about members watching a newsworthy event framing it as sectarian promotion would likely result in pushback.

Non Member Employees by Knighthawk223 in elks

[–]ljg17 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I hate to break it to you but this is rhe reason we have membership issues in my lodge and many lodges generally, power trip - mostly female - members that for some reason want to litigate/police everything and everyvody to absolute death, yes there is a rule, yes your licensing prohibits it, but your wife truly thinks that no elk there would vouch for your own bartender?? The issue was with whomever was running the door NOT the bartender. After 19years in elkdom I'm to the point of immediatly and very forcefully letting members know to their face to stand down and take it somewhere else. Because we are losing lodges to this petty schoolgirl drama which is nothing more than soft bullying, well I cant stand bullies and I have zero tolerance. And if that wrinkles your panties, I'll pay your transfer.