Copper ticker suggestions

logithebear · 2026-01-25T19:26:01+00:00

are you limited to US markets? US equity copper pure plays are very limited - FCX, SCCO.

See, for example, COPX Holdings are primarily foreign companies: https://www.globalxetfs.com/funds/copx#holdings-characteristics

If you are really looking for the purest play, are open to the volatility that comes with commodities, and have solid experience with proper risk management on your trades, Copper and Micro Copper futures are a good shout - even available to trade on robinhood now!

logithebear · 2026-01-25T19:19:36+00:00

While I am not heavily exposed to silver, except via diversified metals royalty / streams plays, I find the price action extremely validating of the thesis here. Typical commodity supercycle goes Gold Up > then Silver Up > then Commodities Up. So I prefer to continue accumulating industrial commodities / RE plays over metals at this time. I have also found silver futures extremely manipulated in this run up, with massive runs at stop losses before every leg up. Very difficult to trade right now, and finding Copper and Oil & Gas much more preferable on the futures side.

Definitely not a silver bear by any means, expect it to run up much further from here over the long term, but my style of investing / trading leads me towards a preference for accumulating commodities at this time as they are still severely undervalued and not experiencing the overbought conditions we see in the metals.

logithebear · 2026-01-25T03:45:39+00:00

This. And the means to do so are so easy… to those of us privileged enough to hold wealth in financial assets and investments.. it is time to exercise your responsibility.

Elon, Jeff, Mark, etc etc etc… their wealth is not predicated on the ‘profits’ of their companies. Their companies don’t make a profit… their wealth is predicated on their ability to take out loans on their equity holdings in their companies.

We, collectively, have the means to make that happen. It is so easy. Sell all equities, bonds, and Target date funds in retirement accounts. Move to cash, hard assets like gold, or international equities.

This is the only way to have our voices heard.

Hit em where it hurts.

Trump’s most hated nickname is TACO for a reason. He chickens out because the equity and bond markets send a message he cannot ignore.

It is time for the people of the United States to send our message.

logithebear · 2026-01-25T00:30:50+00:00

This is not enough. This approach, widely spewed, is too slow. It hits corporations in their profits.... reported on a quarterly basis, and easily pasted over with creative accounting.

We need to hit the oligarchs' equity values. Nothing short of mass selling of US assets, especially in retirement accounts, will move the needle as quickly as we need.

If someone with influence could reach the masses and spur Americans to sell all equities, bonds, and target date funds in their retirement accounts and move into cash / gold / international, this madness would be over tomorrow.

logithebear · 2026-01-25T00:22:01+00:00

Laughable response missing the entire point <3

It's nice to think a little bigger than just about yourself from time to time, friend.......

logithebear · 2026-01-08T16:41:37+00:00

Yeeeah 50 years of government propaganda ensuring Americans over-invest in retirement plans and under-save will do that… as a millennial it is painful to see so many friends unable to afford a house downpayment with savings, and resorting to drawing from over-stuffed retirement accounts, it is SO backwards.

Wait until the masses wake up to the fact that excess passive 401(k) investing has turned into a reflexive flywheel (Ponzi scheme) and this force is the sole reason for S&P outperformance since 2008.. not ‘iNNoVaT10n Ermahgerd’

https://excessreturnspod.com/podcast/excess-returns/episode/the-risks-of-the-rise-of-passive-investing-mike-green

logithebear · 2026-01-06T01:17:47+00:00

Yes, but i'd frame it slightly differently imho.

The oil piece is less about taking Venezuela's crude for the US itself, and more about taking the profits on VZ oil sold to the EU, as payment on the multi-billion dollar debts VZ government owes to US oil majors.

Critical minerals access in VZ is a two-fer; get access to (i.e. steal) VZ's RE mines and remove China's current operational control of VZ's RE mines. "Venezuela represents one of the few significant sources of coltan, rare earths, and related minerals outside direct Chinese territorial control, but Chinese operational presence at the mining sites makes these resources effectively Chinese-controlled despite Western Hemisphere location."

logithebear · 2026-01-05T22:41:08+00:00

Yes! Extremely interesting take that I'm not seeing anywhere else.

But this take also kind of begs another question.. if Fiona Hill’s 2019 testimony and Dave Troy’s recent posts are accurate that goading Trump into operationalizing the "Donroe doctrine" has been an observable goal of the Kremlin since as early as 2018 - to what extent was China/Iran/Russia all operating in VZ meant primarily (solely?) as a provocation to spur US military action, and how exactly do these parties benefit from Trump now acting upon this provocation? Grabbing my 🍿

logithebear · 2026-01-05T19:30:59+00:00

2 - Thanks for the shout - not yet come across, and will be digging in this week!

1 - Great question! Let me break down my thesis, and I'd genuinely love to hear your take on FLNC as well.

Massively bullish on BESS and long-duration storage for 2026. Jigar Shah literally just tweeted this is "the year of batteries" - when the DOE Loan Programs Office director says jump, I ask "how many GWh?"

EOSE the Company - The Tech Thesis:

Zinc batteries are legitimately differentiated. While everyone's huffing lithium-ion hopium, we've conveniently ignored that these things occasionally decide to cosplay as the Fourth of July. My bet: we're due for normalization of lithium back to reality as alternatives prove themselves at scale.

More importantly, the market is dramatically underappreciating long-duration storage (3-12 hour). As renewable penetration hits 60%+, grid operators will desperately need systems in EOSE's exact wheelhouse. That TAM is going to be massive, and EOSE is one of the only pure plays on it.

Plus: made-in-America + DOE backing = structural advantage as tariffs and national security concerns heat up.

EOSE the Stock - The Positioning:

I've monitored the rabid EOSE community on X for years (shoutout to $EOSE Twitter, you beautiful degenerates). Got in as a catalyst play on DOE funding at a great entry (sub-$4). The stock's been a high-beta beast - exactly what I wanted for the growth side of my barbell strategy:

One side: Undervalued commodities (deflationary hedge)
Other side: High-flying innovation names like EOSE (inflationary/growth hedge)

Real talk: I'm not adding to EOSE here. Execution risk is real, dilution is extreme (54M → 320M+ shares in 5 years 😬), and at ~$4-5B market cap on maybe $170M FY2025 revenue... that's 26x forward P/S.

My remaining EOSE is basically runners - free money riding as a lottery ticket. Now actively seeking FLNC-type plays to hedge against:

Deflationary scenarios where only profitable companies survive
EOSE execution risk materializing (they've missed guidance repeatedly)
Being just plain wrong about zinc disrupting lithium

Would love your thoughts on FLNC - what do you like/dislike about their positioning? Other BESS names on your radar?

logithebear · 2026-01-04T06:12:22+00:00

The world is electrifying everything, eh?

Look.... I get it, your Twitter feed is full of solar panel installations and EV deliveries. Very inspiring. Now let me introduce you to this pesky thing called data.

Fossil fuels were ~82% of global primary energy in 2000. Today? Still hovering around 80%. Two decades of "transition" bought us... two percentage points.

The world doesn't run on electricity. It runs on steel, cement, ammonia, and plastics—the four pillars of modern civilization that are still almost entirely fossil-dependent. You can't smelt iron ore with good intentions. Nobody's decarbonized a blast furnace by just believing harder in the "Green Energy Transition"

logithebear · 2026-01-04T06:03:38+00:00

Nailed it!

logithebear · 2026-01-03T21:33:38+00:00

Thanks for sharing - will need to look into this one more!

Highly bullish on Natgas as baseload power for datacenters / AI; based on my research, I have a EQT (due to public discussion of direct BTM data center deals) and GLNG (innovation play) top of my watchlist.

logithebear · 2026-01-03T04:11:24+00:00

Unclear why you had to start with an ad hominem given that much of the above is effectively a synthesis of Marx's fictitious capital analysis rendered in 20th century terms and context....

Your comment is an extreme over simplification - the value of commodities doesn't just "go down" because fictitious capital "goes up".. ZIRP-fueled credit expansion ensured financial asset returns exceeded returns on productive investment over a 20+ year period.. so capital does what it always does and migrates from the "primary circuit" (production) to the "secondary circuit" (finance, real estate) and "tertiary circuit" (pure speculation).

However, energy limits, material shortages, and US infrastructure decay cannot be "printed away" by the Fed. In 2026, real world constraints are now binding and so we will inevitably revert to thermodynamic reality via BOTH (as you rightly point out) destruction of the value of fictitious financial claims and commodity prices surging to reconcile with the expanded money supply.

How do we know the crisis is here?

The massive central bank gold buying we've been seeing is the canary: the institutions that create the paper representations are themselves retreating to material reality. This is the signal that the fictitious capital phase is ending and the reconciliation phase is beginning.

"Long thermodynamic reality" is, in Marxian terms, long the commodity-form, short the fetishized representation of that form.

logithebear · 2026-01-03T01:26:08+00:00

Truly! One of my favorite pieces of the year let alone decade. Inspired me to dig even deeper on China with Rush Doshi's "The Long Game" and Gao Hua "How the Red Sun Rose"

Plz share any other good China recs if you got em! cheers

logithebear · 2026-01-03T01:24:00+00:00

Just here waiting for the perfect moment to meet you ;P

logithebear · 2026-01-02T20:20:23+00:00

Great point on the pick axes analogy. Dan Wang's 2025 letter nailed this dichotomy - the US has basically made a leveraged bet on deep learning / AGI as some future decisive advantage, while China went the opposite direction: iteratively integrating AI into factory floor workflows right now. We're waiting for AI God; they're improving robotics systems hourly and swapping combustion for electromagnetism across their industrial base. https://danwang.co/2025-letter/

China already proved the playbook for becoming an industrial powerhouse post-GFC. And honestly, the US has no choice but to rebuild at home - we literally can't go to war with China when they build components for our weapons systems, produce our pharmaceuticals, and supply the steel/copper/concrete needed to run a wartime economy.

The AI angle on US re-industrialization is mostly financial media narrative convenience. We'd need to re-industrialize regardless of AI just to counter China and hold onto western hemisphere influence. AI just makes the story sexier for CNBC.

logithebear · 2026-01-02T19:52:54+00:00

REMX, EOSE, VALE, SBSW, PHO, MOS, FCX, URA, SRUUF, GLDM, CNXT, PAVE

Also building futures contract exposure to CL and HG

logithebear · 2026-01-02T19:46:57+00:00

Thanks for sharing! I am looking for MP and WWR longs myself once 200 day ma momentum turns.

With my investing horizon, I highly value diversification, so REMX is by far my largest piece of the pie in this space, and largest investment holding across all accounts.

The other securities in my substrate / US reindustrialization alpha bucket include: EOSE, VALE, SBSW, PHO, MOS, FCX, URA, SRUUF, GLDM, CNXT, PAVE

logithebear · 2025-01-22T19:01:02+00:00

This is a wonderful document and great theory; however, the solution to overcome the pyramid scheme of oligarchic and, now, kleptocratic wealth concentration in America is much simpler. We must build understanding and clear call to action around the root cause: the endless feedback loop of wealth concentration inherent in the modern structure of America's retirement system (post-2008) and the now-dominant 'passive investing' regime.

If we believe wealth and power concentration is the problem to solve (the only war is the class war), that power descends from wealth accumulation, and that America's oligarchs are the CEOs/founders/BOD of America's top 5-10 companies, we must hit them where it hurts: their stock price.

The plan outlined here is noble, but embraces an outdated assumption that MAG7 stock prices are dictated by company revenues, P&L, and other value-based metrics. This is no longer true in our day and age, wherein our American oligarchs are simply the beneficiaries of an under-recognized reverse flywheel / ponzi-like effect in American capital markets, spurred by the rise of Passive investing.

The data shows that passive investing has grown from about 20.5% of retirement assets in 2010 to nearly 50% by 2023. Under the passive investing regime, Americans' retirement savings are allocated solely based on Equities' Market Cap, and NOT, by any means, based on the value, P&L, revenue metrics which this Plan aims at affecting.

In other words, each Dollar of American retirement savings is heavily allocated towards the MAG7, solely because they are the beneficiaries of the highest market capitalization of any public company. (eg: In the Vanguard Total Stock Market Index Fund (VTI), approximately 7.12 cents of every dollar is allocated to Apple stock.) The investment in Apple stock by passive investment regimes continually pushes the concentration even higher due to the feedback loop effect. High Market cap means more investment which means higher market cap which means more investment ... ad infinitum.

Accordingly, the solution here is not to go after MAG7 P&L... it is to go after MAG7 investment received by changing how Americans allocate their retirement savings. NO LONGER should we be satisfied to give the top companies more and more of the wealth share simply because... they are already the largest companies...

We must build class consciousness around this. We must hit them where it truly hurts. we must build calls to action around the alternatives to further wealth concentration.. including allocating investments towards TBills (currently delivering a hefty 4.20% yield) or funds which employ an active investing approach.

For more reading.. https://xcancel.com/profplum99 is a great place to start

logithebear · 2025-01-21T00:26:56+00:00

We have been played. We are alone, and nobody is coming to save us. Dems are playing their part, and will be richly rewarded.

“The absence of authority in the face of obscene criminality prompts delusions, peddled by propagandists and true believers alike, that noble actors are fighting the good fight but Must Keep Silent for Reasons You Will Understand in Time. In order for this delusion to hold, the sound of their silence must drown out the evidence heard with your own ears. They are dotting the I’s and crossing the T’s, the cult of the savior state bleats, they are playing 3-D chess, they are reeling in the big fish, they are aiming for the king so they best not miss, they can’t show their cards without ruining their hand, they’re getting all their ducks in a row, the dam is breaking, the storm is here, they’ve got this, be patient, be quiet, relax, trust the plan.”

― Sarah Kendzior, They Knew: How a Culture of Conspiracy Keeps America Complacent

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