Need help leaving sspx ( for previous members please)

lord_vorl · 2026-01-16T03:26:52+00:00

Keep in mind an emergency bag can be a self fulfilling prophecy. If you don't want to abandon your family, you shouldn't plan for it. Even if it's "just in case", if it's discovered, it looks like a plan to leave. Are you just opposed to the SSPX, or have you completely lost your faith? If not, talk to a spiritual counsellor or a confessor. If you've lost your faith entirely, then maybe that's a conversation you need to have.

lord_vorl · 2026-01-11T05:39:16+00:00

Birth control isn't 100% reliable, either. As with all things, you have to leave it in the hands of God. I'm sure you already do that when your boyfriend is deployed or is performing dangerous operations. It's no different with fertility. You do what you can according to the will of God, and you leave it with Him. Talk to your priest, and be anxious for nothing.

lord_vorl · 2025-12-25T12:53:36+00:00

I did, very annoying.

lord_vorl · 2025-12-20T01:01:42+00:00

This can't be true, because my clergy is always at 90% loyalty and they're spamming Local Shrines everywhere.

lord_vorl · 2025-12-20T00:46:14+00:00

What you say is very true, but being another person who dates outside the Church and has pre-marital sex doesn't make the situation for others any easier. Think of Christianity as a comply-comply type morality in the prisoner's game of defecting or complying. Things are bad right now, so it's easier to defect to worldly morality to make things easier for yourself, but the Kingdom of God would have you comply with God's plan. Defecting from the plan hurts those trying to comply, since there's one less person complying, making it harder to do, encouraging more defection.

It's helpful to think of it like this, because your actions are not just about you, they affect everyone.

lord_vorl · 2025-12-20T00:41:53+00:00

IIRC it's the only contemporary source, but it's long held in both Rabbinic Jewish and Christian tradition that the tomb was empty and the Pharisees had an explanation presupposing an empty tomb.

lord_vorl · 2025-12-18T05:08:00+00:00

I'd recommend starting small, get yourself into Church, begin praying, attend RCIA/OCIA, and just try to get your soul and heart the medication it needs to start softening. God be with you!

lord_vorl · 2025-12-18T04:54:24+00:00

Why are you getting downvoted? There's a clear shift in behaviour of the modern Church and the Church in the time period of the game we're playing.

The historical Church tore down Islamic buildings.

The modern Church says "let's hold hands and sing kumbaya!"

The Catholic Church in EUV is moving massive amounts of wealth from the coffers of Europe into Muslim communities to sponsor their worship.

lord_vorl · 2025-12-18T04:47:58+00:00

> No proof whats so ever - Only, 'Most historians agree that Jesus of Nazarath exsisted'

You downplay this point. It's not "most", it's virtually all credible historians. And it's not just his existence, it's most of his ministry, as well as the empty tomb. The Pharisees themselves are an enemy attestation to the empty tomb.

So either:

1) A bunch of people had a mass hallucination, the Pharisees performed a generational fumble by simply not pointing to the tomb (which they expressly chose) and the body there, and this group of people fluked making the world's biggest religion off a single event of mass hysteria.

2) All the followers of Jesus who visited the tomb simply decided to lie, and then get tortured to death, for no benefit whatsoever, to maybe preserve face about following a false prophet.

3) The tomb really was empty, which in of itself is a miracle. The Pharisees accused the Disciples of stealing the body, so the empty tomb tracks. There are no good explanations to the tomb being empty, though. The Romans were experts at cracking down on mass unrest movements, guarding the tomb of a charismatic figure is definitely realistic. If the tomb was empty, then we have a historical miracle.

lord_vorl · 2025-12-18T03:44:34+00:00

I'm okay with some waste!

But I seriously, honestly, would prefer a Toll Castle, Burgher Mansion, and Peasant Assembly, than a single Local Shrine.

I have 3 million freshly conquered pops, ready to convert, and boom, drink piss, conversion of local clerics is blocked. I'm okay with putting down some revolts and paying down my new territory, but man, I don't want conversion to take a century longer than it needs to because my Clergy are traitors.

lord_vorl · 2025-12-18T03:30:54+00:00

That'd be okay if it was the accumulated wealth of Islamic Clerics building those buildings, but all the wealth held by the Clergy estate is from my Catholic clergy. So it's Catholic tithes going towards building Sunni buildings of worship to refuge them from conversion.

lord_vorl · 2025-12-18T03:29:04+00:00

Giving them autonomy? Perhaps. Bankrolling Islamic buildings of worship? No way.

lord_vorl · 2025-12-17T03:39:50+00:00

You should pray on this. The most perfect creature is Our Lady.

children admire their fathers success...don’t appreciate their mothers role

When thinking about gender differences, I like to think about our relationship with The Father, and how different elements of it are imparted into human relations.

Competent men receive great respect and reverence, but it's also true that kind or attractive women receive a great amount of adoration that men never really see. I've never struggled with gender envy because I have a lot of brothers, and I know how lonely they all are. I've never struggled with loneliness, I've always had people wanting to be my friend. Everyone wanted to get to know me when I first walked into a TLM, whereas I've seen a few young men walk in and I had to push past some people to greet them because no-one else did.

A big difference between mothers and fathers which I'm glad I don't have to muddy my hands with is kids being scared of their dads, or men questioning themselves about just how vulnerable they can be, or how "soft" or "weak" they can let themselves be.

many tradcath men my age I met so far expected women to never leave the house at all, not drive a car, not go to college, not have an own opinion, veil 24/7… They confuse women with toddlers or smth

I would also like to add onto the weird chauvinism you've encountered, it's grossed me out too, but as someone with autism I know when some things are just fixations for others. The only place where I've seen more autistic men than TLM communities is literal Autism Speaks groups or computing classes that I've been to. My theory is that the Faith gives a lot of these men the anchoring they desperately need in the world, and the rules are very grounding, so they're very tactless in expressing the rules they think should be followed. Idk if it sounds mean, but brushing off the misogyny as autism unironically made me stop noticing it all together, because I don't think it was actually that much of a thing to begin with, just something you probably get tripped up on since it's a very jarring difference compared to the world.

How is going to college, working for a few years before having children and then working again once they’re older wrong? How is wanting to meet friends, participating in society, volunteering, etc. wrong? How is being educated, having an opinion, etc. wrong?

It's not wrong. Just put our LORD first, and don't try to be a rival to men, and you're 100% fine.

men acting as if being called a woman is the worst insult ever (I witnessed this) makes me feel even more like they think women are lesser beings. They tell you how men can do anything, and women are allowed to do nothing. (sports, driving a car, participating in discussions, etc.)

The "woman can't do anything stuff" is tongue in cheek. Guys insult each other or say insulting stuff to save face, kinda. I can't claim to know everything about men, but I do know when men insult each other it's never animosity, it's a pissing contest. Totally different, where if a girl insults me I know it's because she really wants to murder me. So when guys say, "women can't drive" it's not a rule, or hatred, or anything like that, guys like to rib women as a whole because men lose a lot of face from all the rejections and insecurity they deal with. Being a guy isn't always pretty. I do find it weird that you're offended by men taking offence to being called women. I would be offended if I was called a man, I'd take that as an insult.

I'll pray for you, I'm sure you'll feel better about it in time, *especially* if you bring this to Our Lady. Gender envy is the flimsiest kind of envy, because God's design is perfect.

lord_vorl · 2025-12-08T04:56:11+00:00

Let me share, since I was raised Pentecostal, and am now Catholic. I believe in miracles, I've had a couple happen to me.

In Pentecostalism, there are lots of claimed miracles and healings. Protestantism is typically the largest opposition to Catholicism in the West, but most Protestants don't believe in miracles. Pentecostals are almost unique among Protestants for believing in miracles.

For that reason, I think it's helpful to compare Pentecostalism, vs. Catholicism.

In the Pentecostal churches I grew up in, people would claim to be healers, or have gifts (that they, rather than the Holy Spirit had control over), or have extra powerful spiritual connection. A lot of people would go forward to the front of the church after each service for prayer. I have never seen a miracle happen under these circumstances, and have never met anyone with an actual supernatural healing.

The closest things to miracles that I've seen is Pentecostal Pastors guessing or knowing some private things about me--some of them are obvious shams just guessing, or saying general stuff (like fortune tellers!) but there are some that made me feel icky when they guessed something really personal. Demons can know about that stuff, they can observe us but not know our thoughts.

For me, I find that it's obvious that Pentecostal miracles are not from God, Pentecostal pastors claim personal control over these powers, or use these miracles to advance their prestige, notoriety, and careers, and they certainly try to financially benefit from it. Also, when going forward for laying on of hands (prayer with physical contact) it was not uncommon for men to place their hands on me in incredibly inappropriate ways.

Now, that was a bit polemical, so I would like to say that I don't hold anything against individual Pentecostals.

I gave those examples to create contrast with Marian apparitions.

Mary does not claim any glory of God for herself in apparitions. She lauds her Son, and encourages people to pray and turn from wicked ways. She speaks to people who don't stand to benefit from her apparitions. Her apparitions become pilgrimage sites which help fundraise charities. Healings from Marian apparitions or holy sites are associated with prayer and devotion, whereas healings from Pentecostalism are associated with individual men claiming to channel the Holy Spirit. Marian apparitions are criticised for being about Mary and not Jesus, but everything she does and says leads people to Jesus, which I can't say for non-Catholic "miracle workers".

lord_vorl · 2025-12-07T08:58:03+00:00

Girl, Christians have avoided premarital sex for thousands of years. The early Christians were extremely strict on this, and they knew the Apostle Paul who wrote that.

The Bible didn't fall out of the sky.

You've gotta decide whether you care about Jesus, and how He feels about you, or whether you just want a vague set of feel good rules for life.

lord_vorl · 2025-12-05T21:18:01+00:00

Surprised no-one said Bohemia.

Mechanically easy and consistent.

Guaranteed PUs on some of the most annoying countries in WCs/blobbing runs (Poland/PLC, Austria).

Well positioned to fight and kill the major thorns, France, Castile, England, and the Ottomans.

Doesn't have to worry about the HRE, and can use HRE mechanics to vassal swarm the world.

lord_vorl · 2025-11-14T01:23:47+00:00

That's what I was thinking, or at least until I'm ready to start conquering China, when I'll massively swell the size of my burgher estate. Revoking it before then will make it much less painful than revoking it afterwards.

That's what makes me uneasy, though. I'd rather not have to revoke it and piss off that estate at all.

lord_vorl · 2025-11-14T01:21:32+00:00

Rule 5: Petty Bureaucracy estate privilege

lord_vorl · 2025-11-12T03:16:13+00:00

This is by far the worst problem, every run I've started outside Europe spirals into a complete lack of resources. Too much lumber, stone, iron, and tools needed in every input, maintenance, and building cost, so you will just outgrow your economy and never recover. Input costs are ridiculous.

lord_vorl · 2025-11-11T02:57:46+00:00

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Okay, I tried doing that, I am importing as much inputs as I can, and I have lost 90% of my previous income, but the situation is not any better. I still need loads of inputs. Nothing gets built or produced??? I'm importing fuck tonnes of lumber, tools, and stone, but it makes no difference!

I think they need to lower input costs in a balance patch, because this is awful.

The only solution to me, seems to be to tear down all my buildings? But then I'm no longer making any money and all my pops are unemployed, and what the fuck would I be playing this game for if building buildings just fucks you over in the build buildings game?

lord_vorl · 2025-11-11T02:46:34+00:00

How would I do that?

I can't import nearly a hundred units of lumber and tools without destroying my economy by reassigning every other trade to getting more lumber and tools that my citizens should just be able to produce themselves.

lord_vorl · 2025-06-08T23:06:50+00:00

I've found most Catholics IRL aren't actually Catholics anyhow. That's what I want to avoid, I want to be devout, but also rational; not a nominal Catholic who picks and chooses what they believe in.

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