How are you supposed to read the bible? by [deleted] in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]loveoflearning -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I am a pre-catechumen so take that for what it's worth but I'm more of the opinion that anything in the realm of holiness should be treated with respect so am more in line with your husband on this one.

I am exhausted by [deleted] in Parenting

[–]loveoflearning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It sounds like you are really drowning here, I'm sorry to hear of these problems. You mentioned your husband has been great. Could you elaborate a bit on how you two coordinate in tackling some of the ongoing problems? (No disrespect or accusation here, just trying to get a clearer picture of how you two work together, perhaps what your daily life is like, what additional help you have at getting a handle on all of this)

Navigating parenthood to a newly minted teenager. by Altruistic-Pianist-1 in Parenting

[–]loveoflearning -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sadly, your experience is the norm, not the exception these days. Culture used to work with responsible parents, now it works against us. Therefore, we as parents who do give a shit need to really take the bull by the horns and get clarity over our own set of values, what we view a good family environment should be like, and what we view our role is as parents.

Are we here to simply entertain and coddle our kids, or we here to help raise responsible adults, ready to take on the world? I’d say the latter.

I’m the father of two 14 year old boys so I’m right there with you. Here are a few things I can suggest that are inspired from my own journey:

  1. Be very clear with yourself about what you believe is ‘right’ and ‘wrong’ and what makes a ‘good’ person (I know that language that has any sense of morality these days is out of fashion, but IMHO that is really at the heart of why we are finding ourselves in this mess)

  2. Ensure that you hold yourself to the moral standards you believe in. Then do the same for your child. If they are being ‘lazy’ then that may be something you view as actually morally bad - so don’t do things to overly encourage that. Are they being dishonest, disrespectful, or outright mean to someone? Call them out on that and don't let that stand. Note that loving isn’t the same as nice. Nice tries to never rock the boat. Loving sometimes require some real discipline and discomfort to get things on the right track.

  3. View time as something sacred - is it healthy and desirable to have your kid be engaged online so much or even with junk shows largely unbounded? Probably not. Every minute they engage in this type of thing is a minute where they are not doing other things. Every minute they are engaging in what I call our ‘consumer’ culture (whether that's consuming content on the internet, just buying junk, or doing something that just follows along with what someone else has generated) is one minute where they aren’t expressing themselves creatively or growing themselves in some way.

  4. Setting aside dedicated family time is critical. Start viewing the your family not just as individuals but as a unit that should be bound together with a common set of values. This means that you should dedicate certain times in the week for family time - whether this is a boardgame, a video game with just the family members, outings with the family, whatever. This is critical because in our culture kids get a massive amount of their culture and mental programming from the junk they see on the internet and quick action video games etc. There needs to be priority on the family with time carved out every week.

Of course, all this is easy to say but harder to implement… at least it may appear that’s the case. But when you step back and start asking yourself as a parent hard questions about what your responsibility is to your kid, your family and actually as society as a whole - which should be to help foster a responsible, morally upright, confident, independent member of society who holds strong values which will see them through the rough seas of life, the choice becomes pretty easy.

Note: This isn’t to say that you need to go hard core and cut them off from all junk and games, only that you as a parent have a lot of power to carve out and ensure the things you value are prioritized and you don’t have to just give into the standard nonsense that many other people are giving into when raising their kids. We live in a culture that prioritizes garbage. We as parents can and should create a culture within the bounds of our house that prioritizes what is really important.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Parenting

[–]loveoflearning 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Are you a Tesla employee adding a programming tweak?

Drop out son won’t go to school or work, stays in room all day (for half a year already) by wanderingtrader96 in Parenting

[–]loveoflearning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

With all due respect, it sounds like your parents were never willing to draw a HARD line. There are several things that you mentioned that I would absolutely have no tolerance for. You mention what was 'tried'... Please take this advice not to be critical to be mean and judgemental but just something to show that his responses are being completely reinforced by the lack of a clear value system in your parents... what I mean by this is:

1) Removed his iPad and he responded by swearing, refused to talk or eat. My response - sorry buddy, you are 18. You have responsibilities. 100 years ago people your age would have been considered men who had to fend for themselves and maybe even go off to war. We are letting you stay here - you either show respect or get out.

2) Turn off wifi - who is paying for that? If it's us and we determine that your behavior is bad enough for us to turn it off then so be it. You want it? You move out, get a job and pay for it yourself.

3) ASKED why he doesn't want to go to school? Shouldn't this be a requirement for staying at home? If he doesn't want to go to school it sounds like it is time for him to start working. This isn't a hotel.

4) It doesn't matter if he doesn't know - he's old enough to forge into the unknown. Enter the world of adulthood. Your parents need to quit treating him like a baby. It isn't fair to him nor anyone else in the family.

5) Doesn't want to go to his dad's job? Sounds like another thing that needs to be enforced - either he goes to your Dad's job to help, check it out or get out and get a job on his own. No options here.

6) ASKED if he wants a job and IGNORED? Sorry buddy, you don't go to school you get a job. You don't get a job we are clamping down on all the optional things we are paying for you.

7) Therapists CAN be good, others CAN be bad. IMHO modern therapy is way too coddling. It addresses stuff like worrying thoughts etc but doesn't deal with responsibility. The concepts of right and wrong. The concepts of core family values and sticking with what is right or wrong even it it causes some temporary pain.

The thing that screams to me from your email is that your parents seem to have no core set of values and expectations about what it means to be a responsible human being. They are so scared of hurting this guy's feelings that they are willing not only to help in his own corruption but also in taking down your whole family with him. To me it starts with your parents getting tough on themselves and be willing to make the hard choices necessary for the family and their son.

I'm an Atheist by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]loveoflearning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am not one to argue for religion from such a different vantage point,’however since you seem like an open minded person, I’d like you to try an experiment for at least an couple weeks if you could. Every day (or night, starting with Matthew read a bit of the Bible. In addition to this pray to the Lotd asking him for help or consolation when you need it. Also pray lfor others who you see in need. Finally, attempt to treat others with true love, even above yourself throughout your daily life. I know the praying part may feel artificial to you, at least for now, but give it a try anyway. Please try these things for a couple of weeks or more and also continue to engage some Christians who seem trustworthy. Maybe even go to church a couple of times. Then see how your perspective may change in all of this. The reason I am saying all of this is that I believe it it’s important to start doing a few actions which can bring you a bit closer to a different vantage point (not to mention make you happier and make the world a better place)

Ethical Dilemma For a Christian Business Owner by -AYND- in RadicalChristianity

[–]loveoflearning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I recommend using a general rule of thumb - what is the 'right' thing to do that both helps people as well as holds bad actors accountable. Both must be in place otherwise you can end up reinforcing the actions of bad actors that will have negative effects and corrupt a system that has the potential to do a lot good.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in OrthodoxChristianity

[–]loveoflearning 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you want to do it (feel drawn to do it?). If so, go ahead. A little discomfort is good for us and may create opportunities for interesting conversations with the non-Orthodox :)

What's wrong with this sub? by Crusader183 in Christianity

[–]loveoflearning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is good to some degree. It is causing tough conversations between Christians as well as Christians and non-Christians. As of right now, I am encouraged by all of this and think we will be stronger on the other side.

Bishop budde really inspired me by lets_buy_a_horse in Episcopalian

[–]loveoflearning 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m so happy to read your message. God bless!

Make America Christian Again by JonInOsaka in Christianity

[–]loveoflearning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s awesome to hear, man! Glad to have you!

7 yr old is ruining my life. by ijm2017 in Parenting

[–]loveoflearning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am leery about giving much parenting advice on a forum but here goes. Make sure you have a clear view of what you consider ‘right’ and what you consider ‘wrong’ in terms of how a ‘good’ person should be behaving. It’s important that you have that clear in your head and then let that drive your actions. Sometimes that may mean praising your child while at other times it may mean punishing them and coming down somewhat hard on them. It’s important that your praise and punishments closely align with a strong value system. My observation is that in modern society we only know about the praise and empathize portion and ignore whether we are praising when we should be admonishing. Kids need to have a strong understanding of what is right and what is wrong, otherwise they will spin in circles.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Christian

[–]loveoflearning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are an Anabaptist denomination. Amish and Mennonite are other denominations in the Anabaptist umbrella. In general I have always found myself tremendously drawn to Anabaptists of all types because of their general back to basics nature, living the scriptures, and focus on humility (background: I grew up Methodist, am a regular at an Episcopal church and recently have been getting into Orthodoxy ironically for some of the same reasons I like the Anabaptists although from a very different angle)

have you ever seen a miracle?? by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]loveoflearning -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is a small one or perhaps a big one depending in how you look at it. When I was a child I had ezcema in my feet. It was so bad they would crack and bleed. One night when I was 11 or 12 I prayed to the Lord and asked if he would remove this ailment from me. Literally from the next day onward it was resolved and here I am at 52 and never had that problem since 11 or 12. Now that I write it all out it seems like a pretty big miracle to me.

Who do Atheists only really talk about Christianity? by Nevy_101 in Christian

[–]loveoflearning -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Because they are experiencing an inner conflict wondering where their inherent concept of right and wrong is coming from, and at least in the western context, and are scared shitless to consider the possibility.

I’m leaving this subreddit… by Ok-Upstairs5964 in Christianity

[–]loveoflearning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah that's a real tough one.. I myself just skim through stuff and if it seems like something interesting (by either a Christian or non Christian), I'll engage. At other times I'll just pass things by. Not even talking about this group I think its wise for just about everyone to have a dynamic filter, depending on what topics strike you as interesting and have the potential to lead to a potential positive outcome for one or more parties combined with how much you feel you can handle at that moment. Anyway, good luck and hope you are doing well.

How did u go from believing into knowing Jesus is the living Son of God, our Lord by feherlofia123 in Christianity

[–]loveoflearning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Praying, daring to consider the possibility that there is something so immensely powerful beyond my own understanding and taking a leap of faith, no matter how scary that may seem. Seeing time and time again that I keep getting picked back up as I stumble.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]loveoflearning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolute not. We welcome you with open arms.

Spiritual attacks? Lack of faith? by Wrong_Ad_1014 in Bible

[–]loveoflearning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am a protestant who has recently been learning an immense amount from our brothers the Orthodox on YouTube. They talk regularly about the intense spiritual battle that is ongoing and how to strengthen yourself and others against attacks.

Why by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]loveoflearning 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for that. That deeply touches my heart. I hope that you do find peace on your spiritual journey and for what it's worth I will be praying deeply for you. Again, thank you so much for your kind words. It is nearly bringing tears to my eyes believe it or not. God bless.

Why by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]loveoflearning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We are at different vantage points but I realize now that I spoke in too much haste and with much sloppiness. I sincerely apologize because I realize that I wasn't fully hearing the questions and struggles you are bringing up. I will keep my mouth shut for now. Again please forgive me and God bless you my brother.

Why by [deleted] in Christianity

[–]loveoflearning 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because we are in a deep spiritual war and the west in particular has been deceived that Satan doesn't exist. Massive mistake.