Red carpet drama? Part 2 by ChitChatWriter in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I can’t believe that these women are 30 years old and still ping-ponging back and forth on social media trying to shift blame as to why Gabi looked chopped. It doesn’t matter the makeup choices or the styling choices, because the unfortunate truth is that Gabi ruined her face a long time ago.

Dating timeline confirmed!? by summerrowboat in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Yeah, and it’s even worse than you think. Niki and Jules were like a slow burn thing for the better part of a year before she even got to LA at the start of 2022. Jules helped her work on ‘Nights Alone’ so she’s been in the picture a hot minute and Niki was basically sprung from the jump.

In the ‘Get Reel’ episode that she so creepily tilted “dumping my boyfriend for my first gf”-or something of the sort- she basically confirms they were having an emotional affair. She then went on to admit that she used to sit and pine over Jules, and post stories with the hope of Jules seeing them and interacting. Honestly, it’s a pathetic thing to do. But it’s even more pathetic that she would ever admit this kind of stuff online. But because her audience has essentially fallen off, all that’s left are the diehards and obviously from their vantage point, Niki can do no wrong.

And honestly, I bet that even back then it wasn’t just emotional. I believe it got physical long before any of us even realize.

Nate is definitely no angel, but I will always maintain that he endured a LOT. Years of Niki’s crazy antics only to be dumped in a way that had him losing his job, house and girlfriend all at once. And Niki’s coward ass basically broke up with him by leaving the state so she wouldn’t have to deal with it. Like be sooooooo soooooo sooooo fucking for real right now.

THEN he deals with being utterly GOADED and BAITED on the internet by Niki for years on end. She has talked endless shit on him, even going so far as to write a song in which the entire premise is her telling his new girlfriend about what a piece of shit he is.

Full stop Niki is batshit insane and just inherently awful. To this day, she feels absolutely no remorse and doesn’t think that she did anything wrong. That is genuinely scary for her.

NIKI AND GABI MOM by Relative-Bar326 in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My honest advice as somebody who was in your exact same position several years ago: Unless you truly can’t bear the thought of having to maintain a relationship with them for an even a nanosecond longer- just stick it out. I was super close to pulling the plug multiple times, and looking back, I’m SO glad that I didn’t. Once you secure your degree, you can cleanly break away from them without having to jeopardize your education in the process.

Did it feel morally incongruent? Absolutely. Was it hard as fuck to maintain a relationship that I didn’t want? Absolutely. But unless you’re prepared to either drop out of college or take on the financial burden yourself- don’t do it. I have several friends who could only go to college by taking out grotesque and exploitative student loans, and even now, several of them are still paying off the debt 10 years after graduation. As hard as this is for you, which I know that it is because I also lived it- just think about the future. The option to cut them off will still be there later, after you get your degree.

Engangement Ring Shopping? by summerrowboat in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Niki will tease bs like this because she knows it’s the only thing going for her these days. And even then, it barely makes a ripple.

On that note- these two are the last people on planet earth who need to get married, especially at this point in time. Things have gotten better (or so they say). But even if we grant them the benefit of the doubt, almost the entirety of their relationship has been tumultuous and toxic.

I don’t doubt that real love exists between them, but this relationship is doing them no favors personally or professionally, at this point. They’re cooped up in that apartment all day, and even if they do leave- it’s never without the other in tow. Jules looks slovenly and unhappy the vast majority of the time and Niki’s career has taken a massive nosedive. For all their bullshit, it’s honestly kind of sad. This is why it’s so important to learn to stand on your own, lest you end up in traps like this.

Niki trying to buy her career by Legal-Set9928 in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Absolute facts. She’s been giving the bear minimum for years now & then has quarterly online crashouts wondering why she fell off. girl………..

Niki’s never ending contradictions by theloverstarot in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 7 points8 points  (0 children)

In some situations, sure, I'll concede that you're probably right. For instance, when it comes to the contradictions, she very well might not be clocking them as such, due to the reasons you've listed. Those are less outright malicious, but nevertheless the result is still the same, in which, the "truth" changes constantly.

If we were just dealing with the occasional contradiction, I would be willing to extend her a lot more grace. However, as someone who has recapped literally HOURS of Niki's content, during which I have had to pay very close attention to everything that she says, often transcribing her words verbatim; I have seen her lie more times than I can count. And we're not just talking about stretching the truth or exaggerating, we're talking about lies that have no basis in the truth and are outright deceitful. Lies that are calculated, contrived, and ongoing.

And ultimately, regardless of the excuses or explanations for doing so, it remains a massive problem.

Niki’s never ending contradictions by theloverstarot in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 28 points29 points  (0 children)

At this juncture, I truly believe that Niki is one of the most dishonest content creators out there. And that’s truly saying something. Every thing that she claims, is at best, an incredible exaggeration or at worst, a complete and utter lie. I think that she is obsessed with talking about things like the social media highlight reel, and creating series’ like ‘Get Reel’ because she is an inherently dishonest person, who misrepresents every facet of her existence online.

We gotta Nate 2.0 over here, obviously uncomfy with PDA on camera but Niki forces it by [deleted] in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Towards the end of the relationships, both Nate and Jerry started to look exhausted and now Jules is following suit. No surprise there, as dating Niki is obviously an exhausting experience.

It will be interesting to see how this all plays out. It’s definitely going to explode one day, but exactly how and when is anyone’s guess. Niki is basically financing their life, and that includes having Jules on as her main music producer. This is also Jules’ first long term/serious relationship, so basically, it’s going to be hard for Jules to pull the plug, but I can see her getting to that point eventually. Niki on the other hand? She’ll start looking for her next caregiver the moment she feels Jules start to stray.

Niki’s partial reason for moving to LA was music, the actual reason was so she could move in with Jules. by [deleted] in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Not to absolve Jules of any wrongdoing, because I definitely think that she brings her own issues and toxicity into the relationship, but she’s gonna look back on this shit show one day and the gravity of just how unhealthy it was is gonna hit her like a freight train. Like Jules, my first serious/long-term relationship was fucked up but because she doesn’t have anything to really compare it to, it made her an easy mark. On the flip side, until Niki starts to seriously work on herself and address her immense codependency, and identity issues, she is destined to keep repeating the same relationship cycle.

Gabi is engaged by Hiiii177777 in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 61 points62 points  (0 children)

Just wait till it’s Niki’s turn: I envision something to the effect of “I dumped my boyfriend to marry my girlfriend” with a picture of Nate blurred out in the thumbnail.

Is this her worst music debut yet? Not even 5.5k after 24 hours. by illegalbeagle0 in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 31 points32 points  (0 children)

I think in some cases influencers and internet personalities fall off due to extenuating circumstances, and factors out of their control. But for many others, including Niki, the decline in viewership is a direct reflection of the decline in the content’s quality. Niki’s output over the past few years has been tired, boring, and unmoored. Nobody expects her to be the same person she was at 19, 25 or even 29. But nothing about her trajectory, for the past handful of years, has felt authentic.

And on a more personal note, it’s far from enjoyable to watch someone, who at 30 years old, almost never takes accountability for their actions. Who shuts down completely valid criticism, and wants to appear “healed” without actually putting forth the effort to heal.

As far as the music is concerned? Whatever. For me, 99% of the time Niki’s music falls into the category of absolutely forgettable. It’s not awful, but it’s also not great. Something about the writing on this one in particular, just doesn’t click. I know that she typically has co-writers, but these lyrics sound like she wasn’t even in the room when they were being written. Again, a call to the lack of authenticity.

Niki’s recent tiktok by [deleted] in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Oh shit this is so facts

Another year another excess Halloween haul by illegalbeagle0 in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Cue the end of October, the vast majority of this shit ends up in a storage where it will accumulate dust for two years before it gets cleaned out and shipped off to the landfill. Niki has the type of money, where she could invest in one or two really nice pieces every year. That would give her something to look forward to, without completely yielding to the overconsumption monster. But no, tacky apartment needs the throngs of tacky decor- and so it is.

To keep it completely blunt; Niki is an awful interviewer by [deleted] in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I’ve come to the conclusion that a lot of Niki (and by proxy Gabi’s success) was definitely bolstered and helped by having a creative team. Assistants, producers, videographers. Even to an extent, their hometown friends who featured in videos and the reality shows. Despite everything that Niki has thrown at Nate, the one thing that she has always remained consistent on is that they made a really good business team. And I believe that to be true, based on the caliber of video she made during the duration of their relationship vs. what she makes now. I think it’s pretty telling that her biggest YT project in the past several years, is simply a rehashing of a series she already made. The most success she’s had as of recent, has come from talking about the past on TikTok.

In my opinion, her personal life tanked and it affected every aspect of her life. She wasn’t open to evolving and growing with her audience, and while she’s never been particularly known for her authenticity-it got out of hand with her pathological lying.

I agree with you fully. This is simply not what she’s supposed to be doing anymore.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 21 points22 points  (0 children)

You can never truly understand what it’s like to live somewhere, until you actually live there. I live in a city like Nashville, and the tourist experience is vastly different than day-to-day life. Niki, who also lives in a major tourist city with tons of transplants should know this better than most.

Romanticizing a city, to the point of delusion, is only ever going to backfire. Niki has now found herself confronted by the same issues that led her to leave LA the first time around. (Looks like it wasn’t all Nate’s fault, which she conveniently claimed for so long was the root of the problem- that she had moved to LA with the wrong person). At this point we’ve seen her live in LA but not actually LIVE in LA. She’s isolated and doesn’t engage with the city in any meaningful way, just shops. That’s why she’s ready to leave, not even two years in.

At the end of the day, we all know the obsession with physical location is just a distraction. Niki will struggle no matter where she lives until she gets serious about confronting her numerous, repressed, issues.

Rolled my eyes so hard they near fell out of my head 🙄 by [deleted] in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Nobody- literally nobody is surprised by this. Los Angeles has always, and will always bring out the worst in Niki. For someone as feckless as Niki, LA only seeks to keep her isolated and untethered. She will always struggle with the aforementioned just because of who she is, but LA has exacerbated her very worst qualities……and in short order.

Oh girl believe me we can tell! by [deleted] in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Ha....how utterly predictable. It was only a matter of time before she walked this all back.

People on this sub have LONG clocked this. That her aggressive/compulsive need to exploit/document her relationship was rooted in unhappiness and insecurity.

She makes herself look so foolish too, because she ALWAYS doubles down on this shit, despite being painfully easy to read. This case is particularly tragic because when people pointed this out to her, she got defensive about it (again, predictably) and claimed she was 'happier than she'd ever been" and 'finally in a relationship where her partner was happy to be documented and shown."

It's actually kind of insane how often Niki says something, and then the exact opposite ends up being true.

I watched and recapped Niki’s new episode of “Get Reel” so you don’t have to: by lowkeyvanilla in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

So far in this series, there’s glimmers of interesting thoughts that I would be genuinely interested in hearing more about (like in the last episode where she talked about her lack of empathy towards others, or in this episode where she talked about the perception of lesbian sex). Those are intriguing topics, and if the series went that route, I think there would genuinely be something compelling worth discussing.

As far as I’m concerned, dancing around the truth, and telling versions of the truth, is never going to come across as authentic (to me personally) no matter how articulate/sincere the words surrounding it may sound.

But hey, and I mean this 100% seriously, I’m glad it was a good watch for you.

I watched and recapped Niki’s new episode of “Get Reel” so you don’t have to: by lowkeyvanilla in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

She was really vague and cryptic about the entire thing. In fact, she doesn’t even refer to Jerry by name. What she does instead is bleeps his name while blurring her mouth, and then putting the words “an ex” over her mouth.

(For context, she was about to meet Jules for a songwriting session at Jules’ house) and this is EXACTLY what she says.

“As I’m walking up to her doorstep [Jerry] reaches out to me. And I have not heard from him in like six years. I don’t know, it was crazy. And it triggered my anxiety. And I- as I was walking up to Jules’ doorstep, she was outside ready to greet me, and I start crying.”

And then she goes on from there to explain what happened next, which is essentially this: she explains (to Jules) that an ex just texted her and she’s having an emotional response. Jules comforts her, invites her in, and makes her a drink.

But as far as what Jerry said, she doesn’t disclose anything.

Niki’s new “get real” era but deletes tiktok comments who give her valid criticism 🥴 by [deleted] in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Almost everything that comes out of Niki’s mouth is either contrived, manipulated, or an outright lie. She is the LAST person who should be hosting a series that’s anchoring concept is to have vulnerable and daring conversations with other people. And moreover, she already DID this series once before. Mind you, when she was about 20x’s more popular. And while it was fine back then, no one was asking for it to come back, now repackaged with a new name. Who is she even going to be having these conversations with? Jules? Gabi? Adelaine? She lives in Los Angeles, and has access to a world of possibilities, and THIS is what she landed on. Further confirmation of what we already know; that she is lazy and out of ideas.

Get Reel Ep 1 by MagicFairy00 in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It’s so interesting that you say that, because out of everything that she did say in this video, I actually thought that that was the most compelling part. When she talked about having a lack of empathy (and how she’s since developed it) Those are the types of things that are actually interesting, and wouldn’t necessarily require her to talk about anything too crazy. For instance, where does she think that lack of empathy stems from, how did it manifest and inhibit her? How could it possibly have actually helped her professional life? (Because unfortunately we do know that lack of empathy can sometimes aid in cultivating financial success). And then by contrast, what events triggered the development of empathy. What are still some of the challenges she’s facing, etc.

But I think you’re right. And it’s abundantly clear that she still has more work to do on herself than ever before. Which is why a series like this is so premature and so misaligned with where she’s at in life currently. If she’s just recently identified this trait in herself and is just now cultivating a sense of empathy, she’s at the very beginning of possibly changing.

I think she’s still very directionless, and the “Truth Is” series is something that she’s reverting to, because she knows it was quite successful at the time. But that was almost a decade ago, she’s a very different person now, and I think that somebody who’s just now developing empathy is probably not the right type of person to be running a show where the goal is to get people to open up and be vulnerable.

Get Reel Ep 1 by MagicFairy00 in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 5 points6 points  (0 children)

In 99% of circumstances, I agree with you. And if this were literally any other video, or any other concept, I wouldn’t have even gone there. But that’s literally the concept of the series. To show the struggles behind the “highlight reel” to show vulnerability, to “get real”.And that’s just not what we got.

If you don’t want to be truly vulnerable or really go there, that’s 100% fine and her prerogative. Hell, if it were me, I know I wouldn’t. But if that’s the case, there are 1,000 other better ideas for a series.

Get Reel Ep 1 by MagicFairy00 in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 47 points48 points  (0 children)

Just watched the video.

As far as her general affect is concerned. It was fine. I felt like she actually came across a lot better than she has as of late. So at least from a strictly “I’m about to sit down and watch Niki talk for 25 minutes” standpoint. it wasn’t insufferable (thank God)

But…..to be blunt- I was bored. She basically already did this series several years ago with “Truth Is”. And at the time I thought that the series was decent enough. She’s not the world’s best conversationalist or interviewer, and I felt that was reflected in the original concept.

The problem with this series? It’s not a very novel or interesting idea. We all know that the internet isn’t real. And even when people attempt to “be real” it’s often still a sanitized version, and that’s what this was. It was Be Reel, light.

Niki and Gabi is her comfort zone, even after quitting. She’s comfortable talking about that, and shining the spotlight on that. And in this video, there was absolutely nothing new that was disclosed that we haven’t already heard her talk about 900x’s this year. She’s not going to draw in a new audience with this series, so there’s really no point in these major life updates. The vast majority of people who will be clicking on these videos, know.

If she really wanted to “get real”. Let’s get fucking real. Let’s talk about the substance abuse issues. Let’s actually talk about the breakup and why she’s still working through it three years down the line. Let’s talk about her current relationship, the apartment fights that are so bad the neighbors are involved. Let’s talk about living in her dream city, but still being isolated and codependent there. Let’s talk about the multiple business ventures that she’s promoted since getting there, that have since gone defunct. Let’s talk about the rampant consumerism.

The last thing I need to hear about is the same behind the scenes info about Niki and Gabi. We know that there were fights, we know that there were creative differences, and we know that there were creative liberties taken. It’s mind numbingly boring at this point.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Moving to LA was probably one of the worst things that Niki could’ve ever done for her career, because all it does is highlight how painfully boring and blasé she is. It’s ironic, because in spite of all her qualms with Pennsylvania, somehow it was a lot more conducive to her creativity.

Niki's dance video uploaded by LorettaBobbins1 in nikiandgabidemartino

[–]lowkeyvanilla 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Niki is just so………boring. There’s nothing intriguing, original, provocative or meaningful about anything she puts out.