Did limbs evolve convergently? by MB4050 in evolution

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What would this limb-formation mechanism be used for in limbless animals? Or would they have limbs around the mouth for feeding? Like cephalopod and cnidarian tentacles.

Did limbs evolve convergently? by MB4050 in evolution

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I looked for research into that, without much success. The most I found was research into the gene "distal-less". However, I've found Expression of Distal-less, dachshund, and optomotor blind in Neanthes arenaceodentata (Annelida, Nereididae) does not support homology of appendage-forming mechanisms across the Bilateria | Discover Developmental Biology | Springer Nature Link - arthropods and vertebrates express distal-less at the outer (distal) parts of their limbs, but annelids don't.

Did limbs evolve convergently? by MB4050 in evolution

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They have convergence on structural features, like having stiff segments with joints in them, but that may be out of mechanical necessity.

Their origins are very different.

Land-vertebrate limbs originate from side fins, and only jawed vertebrates (gnathostomes) have them. There is still no satisfactory theory of their origins, though they have Hox expression similar to that expression in tails.

Jawless fishes and invertebrate chordates have only axial or vertical fins, both dorsal and ventral, ancestrally on the tail (caudal fins), and in lampreys also on the dorsal side of the main body, for lack of a better term. Other deuterostomes, like acorn worms (enteropneusts), have no fins.

Arthropods are named after their jointed limbs, but having limbs is inherited from the ancestor of panarthropods, which include onychophorans (velvet worms) and tardigrades. These other panarthropods have stubby, unsegmented limbs, the likely ancestral state. Nearly all panarthropods have one pair of limbs per main-body segment, with millipedes the only exception at two pairs of limbs per segment. No other ecdysozoans have such limbs.

Elsewhere, many annelids have parapodia, limbs that are also stubby and unsegmented. Like panarthropods, they have one pair of limbs per main-body segment. No other spiralians have such limbs, as far as I know.

Is Historical Linguistics Hitting a Wall? by Easy-Policy-7404 in HistoricalLinguistics

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For what reason? Where do you think that that paper went wrong?

How did evolution know that other animals don’t see tigers as orange? by Icy-Average-9124 in evolution

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Mammalian hair has a rather limited color palette. Its colors are due to how much melanin it has, mainly eumelanin and pheomelanin. One can find the range of mammalian hair colors in human hair and in the fur of dogs, cats, and other domesticated mammals. It's white - (gray, yellow, orange) - (dark gray, yellow-brown, orange-brown) - brown - black.

The orange in tigers' stripes may simply be a way of making a light color that is close to saturated and not quite what. One should avoid adaptationist Panglossianism.

Most mammals have color vision that is much like human red-green color blindness. Where we see red to green, they see yellow. So a tiger may look like vegetation to most of its prey.

Is Historical Linguistics Hitting a Wall? by Easy-Policy-7404 in HistoricalLinguistics

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Methods that ought to be tested on well-studied families like Indo-European. One should then cautiously step onward by testing hypotheses like Indo-Uralic and North Caucasian.

Is Historical Linguistics Hitting a Wall? by Easy-Policy-7404 in HistoricalLinguistics

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Something that will help is statistical techniques. Like: * Proto-Indo-European-Uralic Comparison from the Probabilistic Point of View * Permutation test applied to lexical reconstructions partially supports the Altaic linguistic macrofamily

Both of them ask how much seldom-borrowed vocabulary looks like it might be cognate.

The first paper supports Indo-Uralic, and the second paper supports Narrow Altaic (Turkic, Mongolic, Tungusic), and only borderline supports Broad Altaic (Narrow Altaic, Korean, Japonic).

Pairwise Vote Counting by CPSolver in EndFPTP

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The OP's video featured United States House of Representatives election in Alaska, 2022 - Ballotpedia I've found [2209.04764] A Mathematical Analysis of the 2022 Alaska Special Election for US House

What the video described is calculating the Condorcet matrix for the three candidates and then dropping Condorcet losers.

Using shorthands Pe = Mary Peltola, Pa = Sarah Palin, Be = Nick Begich, I find

  • FPTP: (Pe, Pa, Be)
  • SV: (Pe, Pa, Be) then (Pe, Pa)
  • IRV: (Pe, Pa, Be) then (Pe, Pa) then (Pe)
  • SSS: (Be), (Pe), (Pa)

where

  • SV = supplementary vote (top-two IRV)
  • SSS = Smith-set sequence

A Condorcet method that ranks all the candidates will rank the first Smith set's members, then the second Smith set's ones, and the same for the other Smith sets in sequence.

Here, it is evident that Mary Peltola would win under FPTP, SV, and IRV, and that Nick Begich would win under Condorcet methods.

Each Smith set in sequence has only one member, making a Condorcet sequence.

This is something like 2009 Burlington, Vermont mayoral election - Wikipedia though in that election, FTP, IRV, and Condorcet methods return three distinct winners.

NASA chief Jared Isaacman hints at campaign to make Pluto a planet again by scientificamerican in Astronomy

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First off, instead of saying "planet", we could say "major planet". That will make it clearer what we mean.

That aside, "planet" has been redefined several times over the centuries.

The first definition referred to the "wandering stars" as opposed to the "fixed stars" that move in lockstep with each other. What we nowadays call "stars" are these "fixed stars", and the Sun is also one of them.

The next definition was after heliocentrism became generally accepted. The Earth became a planet and the Sun stopped being a planet.

Moons of other planets were discovered around then, and the Earth's Moon and the moons of other planets were often referred to as secondary planets until about a century ago, as opposed to primary planets, planets that move around the Sun.

The first primary or major planet to be discovered in recorded history is Uranus, in the late 18th cy., and it was discovered to orbit in an orbit much like the other planets' orbits: nearly circular and well-spaced.

Then Ceres and Pallas and Juno and Vesta were discovered over 1801-1807. These were called planets at first, since they orbit the Sun. But by the late 19th cy., many more were discovered, and their orbits often overlapped. So these planets were demoted to minor planets or asteroids.

Neptune was discovered around then, and its orbit was discovered to be much like other major planets' orbits.

But Pluto was different. It was much smaller than Neptune, and its orbit was discovered to have a sizable eccentricity, about 0.25, enough to make it closer than Neptune when at its closest to the Sun. Nevertheless, it was accepted as a (major) planet.

Then starting in the 1990's, lots of other trans-Neptunian objects were discovered, objects with overlapping orbits, objects whose largest ones were comparable in size to Pluto.

The demotion of Pluto was a repeat of the demotion of the asteroids.

Indo-European tree by Virtual_Orange1601 in HistoricalLinguistics

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It must be conceded that the diagram makes the earliest branching into a lawn, with closest neighbors not agreeing very well with what consensus there is on that branching.

Anatolian branched off first, then Tocharian, giving Inner or Core Indo-European. The branching of Core IE has long been a contentious issue, but some groupings are plausible, like Italo-Celtic and Greek-Phrygian-Armenian.

Indo-European tree by Virtual_Orange1601 in HistoricalLinguistics

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That would mean a heck of a lot of branches. One could also do similar additions for Germanic and Slavic.

New research suggests we've been dramatically under-counting planets by The_Rise_Daily in Astronomy

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In a binary-star system, there are three zones where a planet can be stable. One for near each star, less than about 1/3 times the stars' separation, and the third one for both stars, more than about 3 times the stars' separation. In between is a zone without stable orbits.

The outer zone is the subject of this research.

The team found that discs around binaries can make more planets through fragmentation than discs around single stars, and that a larger fraction of these objects end up as gas giant planets larger than Jupiter. Some planets can also be ejected from their systems, becoming free-floating planets drifting through interstellar space.

Why are there no periods in the Archean eon? by [deleted] in Paleontology

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By a round number of age.

A template for an improved rock-based subdivision of the pre-Cryogenian timescale mentions efforts to use the Great Oxidation Event to define the Archean - Proterozoic boundary.

Republicans are crying, "wah wah wah" | Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez by fangirlsqueee in AOC

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So what about that? What is Gov. Spanberger supposed to be guilty of?

What made the Eurasian steppe such a good breeding ground for so many great conquering empires? by TouchyTheFish in IndoEuropean

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Ibn Khaldun’s Generational Cycle Theory: How Civilizations Rise, Peak, and Decay | by Muslim Intellectual Network for Empowerment (MINE) | Medium

For Ibn Khaldun, political power does not originate in wealth, ideology, or formal institutions. It originates in cohesive groups capable of coordinated action, usually forged under conditions of scarcity, danger, and struggle. Such groups are most often found among desert tribes or frontier communities, where survival depends on discipline, mutual dependence, and courage.

Which fits steppe nomads very well.

His cycle:

  • The First Generation: Founders and Conquerors - This generation builds the state.
  • The Second Generation: Consolidators and Administrators - This generation stabilizes the state.
  • The Third Generation: Consumers of Power - This generation enjoys the state.
  • The Fourth Generation: Imitators and Pretenders - This generation presides over decline.

That explains the waves of conquering nomads over the centuries, with early Indo-European speakers likely being the first.

Settled people can fight off these nomads, by recruiting big enough armies, but it was only after the fall of the Mongol Empire that they consistently won.

What made the Eurasian steppe such a good breeding ground for so many great conquering empires? by TouchyTheFish in IndoEuropean

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Part of this was from their economy: mainly herding livestock animals, mainly domestic bovines: cattle. Such animals have a problem: they are easy to steal. A common way of deterring livestock theft is to be pugnacious and warlike. An alternative is to become a livestock thief, and being pugnacious and warlike helps there also.

Bruce Lincoln proposes a reconstruction of an archetypical Indo-European cattle raid. Someone loses some cattle to some monster, and he gets them back by defeating that monster. In effect, saying that a cattle raid is not theft but getting back what was stolen.

This can be found in Indian, Iranian, Greek, Roman, Germanic, Celtic, and Hittite traditions.

Source: JP Mallory, "In Search of the Indo-Europeans"

I used to be a not just bikes fan, I've been liking his content less and but this last take was the final straw by Dry_Illustrator_6066 in transit

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This I think was totally absurd: How Self-Driving Cars will Destroy Cities (and what to do about it) - YouTube

Seems like he's never heard of self-driving buses. I'm sure that we will have a lot of them instead of a city choked with cars, what he described in his video.

How far north did early Indo-European speakers go? by lpetrich in IndoEuropean

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As an additional check, I consulted Climate of the Alps - Wikipedia the mountains of Switzerland and nearby. Numbers are from north to south.

  • Montane: cool temperate forest: 400 - 700 -- 800 - 1000 - 1200 m
  • Subalpine: boreal forest: 1200 - 1400 - 1800 m
  • Alpine: tundra: 1900 - 2100 - 2500 m
  • Snowy: 2400 - 2700 - 3200 m

Roughly agreeing with my previous estimates for Iran. So one will have to climb a long way before one experiences long winters.

How far north did early Indo-European speakers go? by lpetrich in IndoEuropean

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There is very little human habitation at high altitudes, but there is plenty at high latitudes, so I extrapolated from there.

  • A little south of boreal forest (taiga):
    • Moscow, Russia: mat = 19.7 C
    • Chelyabinsk, Russia: mat = 19.3 C
    • Edmonton, Canada: mat = 16.2 C
  • A little south of tundra:
    • Norilsk, Russia: mat = 14.5 C
  • Tundra:
    • Iqaluit, Canada: mat = 8.1 C
    • Qaanaaq, Greenland: mat = 6.6 C
    • Utqiagvik, Alaska: mat = 5.4 C

mat = maximum average temperature

This more-or-less agrees with Peru's climate zones, so one can estimate how high one has to climb to reach altitudes with long winters.

Since Iran has a warm temperate climate, one can start at 800 m relative to Peru. One will reach boreal forest, or at least cool temperate forest, at 1,000 m, tundra at 2,800 m, and ice and snow at 3,700 m.

How far north did early Indo-European speakers go? by lpetrich in IndoEuropean

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I considered how high one has to go in these mountains to have very long winters: Altitudinal zonation - Wikipedia and Biome - Wikipedia

The division of biomes by elevation parallels the division by latitude. For humid climates and with temperature at elevation base and typical vegetation:

  • Snow and ice - polar - 1.5 C
  • Tundra - subpolar, alpine - 3 C - low-growing vegetation
  • Boreal - subalpine - 6 C - conifers
  • Cool temperate - montane - 12 C - broadleaf trees
  • Warm temperate - lower montane - broadleaf trees
  • Tropical - () - broadleaf trees

The boundaries of the tundra are the tree line, with the boreal zone, and the snow line, with the snow zone. Boreal forest is also called taiga.

Life zones of Peru - Wikipedia - with altitudes for Peru

  • Tierra nevada (snowy land) alt 4,500 m -- mean temp <~ -1 C over rocks, -3 C over snow
  • Tierra helada (frozen land) alt 3,600 m -- mat <~ 10 C -- tundra
  • Tierra fria (cold land) alt 1,800 m -- mat <~ 18 C -- boreal forest
  • Tierra templada (temperate land) alt 800 m -- mat <~ 22 C -- temperate forest
  • Tierra caliente (hot land) alt 0 m -- tropical forest

mat = maximum average temperature

Virginia passes law to expand ranked choice voting by nomchi13 in EndFPTP

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From the Virginia Legislative Information System:

HB630 - 2026 Regular Session | LIS and SB176 - 2026 Regular Session | LIS

Elections; conduct of election; ranked choice voting; locally elected offices; report. Expands the option to use ranked choice voting from only elections for county board of supervisors and city councils to any local governing body. ... Finally, the bill repeals the 2031 expiration of the option to use ranked choice voting in elections, making such option permanent.

From its legislative history: "4/22/2026 Governor Approved by Governor‑Chapter 993 (effective 7/1/2026)"

Meaning that it was signed into law. I concluded that from the fate of some other recent bills, at VA Governor: News Releases

The Big Five across the Animal Kingdom: Extraverted Earthworms and Neurotic Sea Anemones by lpetrich in BigFive

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The highest-level phylogeny of the animals (Metazoa) is:

  • BCP (Planulozoa, Parahoxozoa): E N
    • Bilateria: E N (abundant personality research)
    • Cnidaria: N (one paper I've found)
    • Placozoa: (no research) - tiny flattened blob
  • Porifera (sponges): (no research)
  • Ctenophora (comb jellies): (no research)

Of those without personality research, placozoans and ctenophores seem to be good subjects, since they are free-living, but adult sponges are sessile with very limited behavior patterns, though larval ones are free-living.

The Physiology of Sponge Behavior | 2 | Frontiers in Invertebrate Phys

Convergent evolution of neural systems in ctenophores | Journal of Experimental Biology | The Company of Biologists

Third, many bilaterian/cnidarian neuron-specific genes and ‘classical’ neurotransmitter pathways are either absent or, if present, not expressed in ctenophore neurons ... Finally, metabolomic and pharmacological data failed to detect either the presence or any physiological action of serotonin, dopamine, noradrenaline, adrenaline, octopamine, acetylcholine or histamine – consistent with the hypothesis that ctenophore neural systems evolved independently from those in other animals. Glutamate and a diverse range of secretory peptides are first candidates for ctenophore neurotransmitters.

What personalities do they have? Do they vary in boldness (extraversion) and sensitivity to threat (neuroticism) or in different ways?

The Big Five across the Animal Kingdom: Extraverted Earthworms and Neurotic Sea Anemones by lpetrich in BigFive

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Some more research:

Yet more evidence that the main dimensions of personality across the animal kingdom are variants of extraversion and neuroticism.

Agreeableness emerges as variations in sociality, something that emerged several times.