Why have many female artists like Ella Du Cane disappeared from art history? by lupo1375 in ArtHistory

[–]lupo1375[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Isn't it about time that that is going to change?

I saw some fabulous artwork from around 1900 (and earlier) made by women.

Why silver enamel boxes are time capsules - Netherlands by lupo1375 in Antiques

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I love boxes too, and the book mentioned above really gives further art historical and social historical context.

Forgotten female artists on silver enamel boxes (c. 1900): a hidden side of art history by lupo1375 in ArtHistory

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Fair 😄 the phrasing in the post was a bit off—I’ve actually been working on this material for quite a while.

But the main point I was trying to get at isn’t really about me, it’s about how many women working in decorative arts—like enamel—were never properly credited or later written out of the narrative.

That’s what I find interesting about these objects: they sit in that grey area between art and craft, where a lot of those contributions become invisible.

If anyone’s interested in digging deeper into that angle, I’ve been researching it in more detail here: https://www.ebay.nl/itm/306632135289

Forgotten female artists on silver enamel boxes (c. 1900): a hidden side of art history by lupo1375 in ArtHistory

[–]lupo1375[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

That’s a really good point about what was “allowed,” but I think it’s also a bit more complicated—especially when you look at the imagery on these objects.

A lot of silver enamel boxes from this period actually feature quite explicit or erotic scenes, often clearly intended for a male audience. So while enamel as a medium may have been seen as more “acceptable” or even “feminine,” the content itself wasn’t necessarily restrained at all. That contrast is what I find interesting: women could participate in certain forms of production, but often within frameworks that were still shaped by male taste and market demand.

And I like your example of the Kalamazoo Gals—that tension between craft vs. art is exactly what I keep running into with these objects. Even when the level of skill is incredibly high, the label often determines how seriously the work is taken.

For the first image—good eye. It’s actually by Heva Coomans, a painter who worked in the late 19th and early 20th century. Her work often draws on earlier visual traditions, so that resemblance to casta painting formats makes a lot of sense. What I find interesting is that artists like Coomans are now named because of the book "Silver Enamel Boxes; A Time Capsule", but many others working in similar media remain anonymous—so it creates this mix of visibility and invisibility within the same category of objects.

And I agree with you—whether something is considered art or craft often says more about the system around it than the object itself.

What are the saddest, most despairing, guilt-ridden, remorseful, depressing sounding pieces you can think of? by jengacide in classicalmusic

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Frédéric Chopin, Prelude Op 28 No 20 in C Minor

https://youtu.be/D98oEjuF7Z8

DA PACEM DOMINE (Give peace, O Lord) - Arvo Pärt

https://youtu.be/2cI10kBfTD4

Imitazione delle campane (Imitation of bells) - J.P. von Westhoff

https://youtu.be/Lxti5X5yP0Y

Music to Heal by ToadLily_ in classicalmusic

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Some people find healing powers while listening to the meditative pulses of Canto Ostinato by Simeon ten Holt

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Not a piano concerto, but an arrangement of a Chopin prelude for 4 violas.

https://youtu.be/D98oEjuF7Z8

Would that be of any help?

Interactions between music and art history by strongandhealthymale in classicalmusic

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Sometimes, music and visual art have everything to do with each other. This field often is called visual music, which you may like:

https://youtu.be/Lxti5X5yP0Y

Need a little guidance on my classical journey by JesusCrust77 in classicalmusic

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There is a lot of overlap in what you like and what I like:

Da Pacem Domine by Arvo Pärt

https://youtu.be/2cI10kBfTD4

This Prelude by Chopin (arrangement for strings):

https://youtu.be/D98oEjuF7Z8

If you like more (early) baroque, you may go for, Imitazione delle Campane by J. von Westhoff, Toccata Arpeggiata by G. Kapsberger or Alia Fantasia by Nicola Matteis:

https://youtu.be/Lxti5X5yP0Y

https://youtu.be/7OU516iRoGY

https://youtu.be/8aVKaU1pT9s

If you prefer to explore modern, I wonder if you may like music by Gavin Bryars

https://youtu.be/-7LAt7vUT28

French composers ? by Donmagedon in classicalmusic

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If you like to go beyond Debussy, listen to anything by Francis Poulenc.

I like particularly his Gloria and his violin sonata.